Entry and Exit Indicators
Apr 14, 2019 at 08:52
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Membre depuis Jan 11, 2018
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Apr 14, 2019 at 08:52
(édité Apr 14, 2019 at 02:53)
Hey guys,
I do not really post in here much but I often check out other peoples post. I am a relatively new trader close too 3 years now live/demo etc now back onto live account and getting there slowly.
I have a question and my apologies if in the wrong section:
I know most of us including me trade support and resistance ( i tend to run off monthly weekly highs/lows) for my entry and exits.
I have recently watched some youtuber's VP from no nonsense forex and some others who never use support and resistance but have a algo (group of indicators) that act as tools to determine entry and exit, and trade sustainability.
I was wondering what people are using if they dont mind sharing their ideas. I this strategy as a totally different concept in how you play the forex game rather than simply playing off support and resistance like the wider community.
Thanks for the help and suggestions.
Shawn
I do not really post in here much but I often check out other peoples post. I am a relatively new trader close too 3 years now live/demo etc now back onto live account and getting there slowly.
I have a question and my apologies if in the wrong section:
I know most of us including me trade support and resistance ( i tend to run off monthly weekly highs/lows) for my entry and exits.
I have recently watched some youtuber's VP from no nonsense forex and some others who never use support and resistance but have a algo (group of indicators) that act as tools to determine entry and exit, and trade sustainability.
I was wondering what people are using if they dont mind sharing their ideas. I this strategy as a totally different concept in how you play the forex game rather than simply playing off support and resistance like the wider community.
Thanks for the help and suggestions.
Shawn
Make Money Not Dreams
Apr 15, 2019 at 05:34
I'm about in the same situation like you. Been in forex since 2014, and slowly beginning to understand how stuff works.
I have been watching those youtube videos, too, and most of them are simply boring or off-topic regarding to my style.
I favor using lower time frames for entries, and exits, and higher for directions.
Once you have figured out your S&R levels I would use full stochastic oscillator (5,3,3,) like in MT. In the lower time frame I would use in/out 10 period SMA, or crossover of 10 & 20 period SMA.
I like fiddling with Bollinger Bands, SMA's, and full stochastic. Sometime MACD.
The only difference between me and you is that the highest time frame I look for S&R is the daily time frame.
Even if somebody reveals precisely a solid money making strategy there is a huge psychological aspect, with which I'm tackling, too.
I don't use ADX or RSI, since I feel that they are not very precise for my purpose.
Had I have a mentor or a coach, this journey would have been much faster.
I'm still dreaming of making big money out of 'pocket money', so I don't really know.
I have been watching those youtube videos, too, and most of them are simply boring or off-topic regarding to my style.
I favor using lower time frames for entries, and exits, and higher for directions.
Once you have figured out your S&R levels I would use full stochastic oscillator (5,3,3,) like in MT. In the lower time frame I would use in/out 10 period SMA, or crossover of 10 & 20 period SMA.
I like fiddling with Bollinger Bands, SMA's, and full stochastic. Sometime MACD.
The only difference between me and you is that the highest time frame I look for S&R is the daily time frame.
Even if somebody reveals precisely a solid money making strategy there is a huge psychological aspect, with which I'm tackling, too.
I don't use ADX or RSI, since I feel that they are not very precise for my purpose.
Had I have a mentor or a coach, this journey would have been much faster.
I'm still dreaming of making big money out of 'pocket money', so I don't really know.
Membre depuis Jan 11, 2018
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Apr 15, 2019 at 12:20
Thanks for your lengthy reply most appreciated.
I did stumble across a strategy online as up till now i have been trading those purely technical aspects to trading which we all adhere and follow too, with trading.
The one i found was using 3 x 70 sma's on the close, high and low. You also used a momentum indicator set to 34 periods with a level of 100. You simply buy if you get a close above or below the 70's ma. If long then the momentum must be over 100 and so on if below. Done on the 4 hour time frame as well.
I am going to trial as looking back over previous price actions it seems feasible and worth a shot.
nothing wrong with dreaming all good ideas come from a thought at one point in time !!!
I did stumble across a strategy online as up till now i have been trading those purely technical aspects to trading which we all adhere and follow too, with trading.
The one i found was using 3 x 70 sma's on the close, high and low. You also used a momentum indicator set to 34 periods with a level of 100. You simply buy if you get a close above or below the 70's ma. If long then the momentum must be over 100 and so on if below. Done on the 4 hour time frame as well.
I am going to trial as looking back over previous price actions it seems feasible and worth a shot.
nothing wrong with dreaming all good ideas come from a thought at one point in time !!!
Make Money Not Dreams
Apr 15, 2019 at 14:18
Hi NT,
Really enjoy VP's podcasts as well and find his take on trading interesting. May be aware already but there is a Discord channel that breaks down all the different parts and indicators to test out., if not, recommend having a look, lots of information on there.
I'm not completely sold on my exit indicator yet but one I'm looking at/tweaking is Chandelier.
Good luck
Rusty
Really enjoy VP's podcasts as well and find his take on trading interesting. May be aware already but there is a Discord channel that breaks down all the different parts and indicators to test out., if not, recommend having a look, lots of information on there.
I'm not completely sold on my exit indicator yet but one I'm looking at/tweaking is Chandelier.
Good luck
Rusty
Membre depuis Jan 11, 2018
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Apr 16, 2019 at 05:58
Hey Rusty,
Yeah its a tricky one but I truly believe if you study/back test you can get a pretty reliable indication of market moves.
I will run with the method I have mentioned and see how that goes over the next coming months.
The chandelier yes, I know of a very know trader Paul Langham for exact trading who uses this in his London breakout indicator/EA from memory.
I think even something as simple as a 5/8 cross can be useful if you stick with it as part of your Rules of Engagement for enter and exit.
Appreciate the reply most appreciated.
Shawn
Yeah its a tricky one but I truly believe if you study/back test you can get a pretty reliable indication of market moves.
I will run with the method I have mentioned and see how that goes over the next coming months.
The chandelier yes, I know of a very know trader Paul Langham for exact trading who uses this in his London breakout indicator/EA from memory.
I think even something as simple as a 5/8 cross can be useful if you stick with it as part of your Rules of Engagement for enter and exit.
Appreciate the reply most appreciated.
Shawn
Make Money Not Dreams
Apr 16, 2019 at 11:10
I have been wondering a similar thing. I have been using support and resistance like everyone else but I haven't got very much to show for my efforts. I feel like S+R is a red herring and there is something else out there that is better for trading. I have been playing with pivot points but also had mixed results
Membre depuis Jan 11, 2018
posts 16
Apr 21, 2019 at 05:53
hey Wreeves,
Yes pivots are hit and miss, but remember nothing is completely flawless in trading. You MUST develop a system with your trading and whats makes it successful is your ability to stick with it and never deviate from the rules of engagement.
I think that this is every traders problem. If you trade only S and R run a set stop you do get the runners/winners. I trade S and R but i use weekly and monthly for those key areas of proposed movement.
I do think that if you fully understand indicators you can trade using those. 1. for entry and exit and 2. one for trade longevity (how long do you stay in ( volume and volatility). Also, ATR can also give you a guide with reference to your take/p and so on.
Im still new as well, coming on 3 years, but i am still alive and havent been wiped out.
Good luck also,
Yes pivots are hit and miss, but remember nothing is completely flawless in trading. You MUST develop a system with your trading and whats makes it successful is your ability to stick with it and never deviate from the rules of engagement.
I think that this is every traders problem. If you trade only S and R run a set stop you do get the runners/winners. I trade S and R but i use weekly and monthly for those key areas of proposed movement.
I do think that if you fully understand indicators you can trade using those. 1. for entry and exit and 2. one for trade longevity (how long do you stay in ( volume and volatility). Also, ATR can also give you a guide with reference to your take/p and so on.
Im still new as well, coming on 3 years, but i am still alive and havent been wiped out.
Good luck also,
Make Money Not Dreams
Membre depuis Apr 06, 2018
posts 254
Apr 22, 2019 at 05:22
You can use any indicator for
1.Entry
2.Exit
3. Trade Filter
For example lets use RSI for using contertrend setup when we only trade for longer term trend direction
1. For Buy entry you enter trade when 20 period RSI is in oversold zone say buy when RSI-20 is 10
2.for Exit trade you exit when 20 period RSI enter overbought zone say exit RSI-20 is 60
3. For Trade filter you enter only long term trade now you can define Long term up trend buy when RSI-100 is in overbought zone only.
These are example when u use a single indicator for Entry, Exit and trade filter. Even u can use RSI or any other indicator for momentum, divergence or reversal trade. You are restricted by your imagination only.
1.Entry
2.Exit
3. Trade Filter
For example lets use RSI for using contertrend setup when we only trade for longer term trend direction
1. For Buy entry you enter trade when 20 period RSI is in oversold zone say buy when RSI-20 is 10
2.for Exit trade you exit when 20 period RSI enter overbought zone say exit RSI-20 is 60
3. For Trade filter you enter only long term trade now you can define Long term up trend buy when RSI-100 is in overbought zone only.
These are example when u use a single indicator for Entry, Exit and trade filter. Even u can use RSI or any other indicator for momentum, divergence or reversal trade. You are restricted by your imagination only.
The market will trade through it’s path of least resistance .
Membre depuis Jan 11, 2018
posts 16
Dec 11, 2019 at 11:45
hey thanks for the reply i have been so sidetracked with work that i forgot all about this post.
I am still trying to determine a good exit strategy but all those provided so far give me a few tools to consider as a whole rather then relying on just a single. tough decisions.....
I am still trying to determine a good exit strategy but all those provided so far give me a few tools to consider as a whole rather then relying on just a single. tough decisions.....
Make Money Not Dreams
Membre depuis Mar 17, 2021
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Dec 15, 2021 at 20:55
Smith2525 posted:I also use Fibonacci.
I use Fibonacci for my exits.
Membre depuis Jul 23, 2020
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Dec 28, 2021 at 16:32
The indicator is not like the Holy Grail. If so, everyone should be rich by this time.
Membre depuis Dec 20, 2021
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Dec 29, 2021 at 14:31
The entry and exit indicator that's perhaps simplest to understand is a common measurement on every commodity's graphs: The moving average. It's a general indicator of a stock's price movement over a given time.
Membre depuis Mar 16, 2021
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Dec 29, 2021 at 16:40
In my opinion, indicators are not hidden treasures. That will consistently make big money with profit. This is a formula that must be used to manage risk.
Membre depuis Jul 23, 2020
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Dec 31, 2021 at 01:34
There are many indicators that traders use widely for entry and exit signals, such as MACD crossover, stochastic, and relative strength index.
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