Arbatov System (de Arbatov)
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Discussion Arbatov System
Membre depuis Jul 18, 2010
posts 26
Aug 04, 2010 at 19:18
Look very good. Can you please show history on myfxbook.
Be open mind, we can learn so much more.
forex_trader_8139
Membre depuis Mar 04, 2010
posts 423
Aug 04, 2010 at 20:10
hi,
Your PAMM account at Instaforex, is it link to myfxbook?
If yes, can you please let us know the link?
Thanks,
SIM
Your PAMM account at Instaforex, is it link to myfxbook?
If yes, can you please let us know the link?
Thanks,
SIM
Aug 04, 2010 at 20:21
gbptrades posted:You are not right, my friend! The more at the trader the deposit - the is less, the broker allows the trader credit a shoulder. From 100к, a shoulder will be not 1:500, and 1:33. And from 1000к, a shoulder will be already, most likely 1:1. Therefore for a floor of year to buy up Russia will fail. Besides. The more at The trader money, the he begins less to risk.
At your current rate of return, if it continues, you will own half of Russia in one year. Why bother trading other peoples money?
Aug 04, 2010 at 21:57
Arbatov posted:Exactly!!! If you build your account to 1000k of your own money, why do you wish to trade other peoples money and split the profit with them. Trade your own 1000k and keep 100% of the profits.
gbptrades posted:You are not right, my friend! The more at the trader the deposit - the is less, the broker allows the trader credit a shoulder. From 100к, a shoulder will be not 1:500, and 1:33. And from 1000к, a shoulder will be already, most likely 1:1. Therefore for a floor of year to buy up Russia will fail. Besides. The more at The trader money, the he begins less to risk.
At your current rate of return, if it continues, you will own half of Russia in one year. Why bother trading other peoples money?
Aug 04, 2010 at 22:36
gbptrades posted:You so have understood nothing. At increase in the capital, the trader wants to lower risk. The more the capital, the is less risk. For this reason, the trader trades in another's money.
Arbatov posted:Exactly!!! If you build your account to 1000k of your own money, why do you wish to trade other peoples money and split the profit with them. Trade your own 1000k and keep 100% of the profits.
gbptrades posted:You are not right, my friend! The more at the trader the deposit - the is less, the broker allows the trader credit a shoulder. From 100к, a shoulder will be not 1:500, and 1:33. And from 1000к, a shoulder will be already, most likely 1:1. Therefore for a floor of year to buy up Russia will fail. Besides. The more at The trader money, the he begins less to risk.
At your current rate of return, if it continues, you will own half of Russia in one year. Why bother trading other peoples money?
Aug 05, 2010 at 01:16
stevetrade posted:
OKay, I have to ask.
You've made 24 trades in total, so you aren't opening lots of trades.
Today you have made 600% on your account with 180 pips.
If that is just one trade, then even risking 10% of your account on the trade you must have used a 3 pip stop loss to gain 600%.
Maybe my sums are wrong but I'm interested to know how you achieved it.
Your maths is way out there Steve.
His acc balance was $3k prior to his 600% increase which relates to $600 growth.
Each pip was worth $3.3 to gain $600 from 180 pips. A 10% risk would have given him a 90 pip SL.
Membre depuis Oct 28, 2009
posts 1430
Aug 05, 2010 at 12:12
Of course, as it's expressing his percentage gain from the initial capital and not from the point where the account was.
So it was roughly a 20% gain on his account on the day. Which now doesn't seem as unbelievable from three trades.
Thanks for stepping in and pointing that one out.
So it was roughly a 20% gain on his account on the day. Which now doesn't seem as unbelievable from three trades.
Thanks for stepping in and pointing that one out.
11:15, restate my assumptions: 1. Mathematics is the language of nature. 2. Everything around us can be represented and understood through numbers. 3. If you graph these numbers, patterns emerge. Therefore: There are patterns everywhere in nature.
Membre depuis Jul 18, 2010
posts 26
Aug 06, 2010 at 14:56
(édité Aug 06, 2010 at 14:59)
Like watching Russian drunken master trading!.😁 It would be interesting to see how you do overlong run.
Be open mind, we can learn so much more.
Aug 11, 2010 at 22:51
(édité Aug 11, 2010 at 22:52)
Soliton posted:
Hi - it the best account - Very very impressive
Good luck
If you mean this account with +4000% profit from June till today, then its *not* the best account. Far from it... Its only couple of months and remember that even a very bad system can give huge profits for couple of months. So couple of months tells nothing really about the system. Needs more data...
If I was to look best system here (excluding mine, which I really think are top ones :) ), I would definitely look many things. Profit % is not so important like many think. Its also how he/she trades, how much data, how long period, Maximum drawdown etc etc... %-profit is only about 20-30% factor in the judgement. I would not consider any system with less than 6 months data.
Freedom is a paradox; To be free to play beautiful music, you have to submit to the rules of music.
Aug 12, 2010 at 06:13
(édité Aug 12, 2010 at 06:24)
Arbatov posted:
I do not see any problems. Let's wait for six months. Yes.. By the way, 2 months have already passed.
Yours faithfully, Arbatov.
I just said, that the statement 'it the best account' is not true (if 'best' means: a system where to put your money in just by looking at this sites data). The same way like the statement 'dogs can fly like eagles' is not true. Thats the only thing I said. It is possible that the system is very good, but it does not change the fact that the statement is still false.
Let me correct myself a bit. I just recognized one error in my text. Instead of saying: '...its *not* the best account...' I should have said: '...its *not* the best account in a way that I should chose a system from here to put my money in...'. As I said earlier, it is possible it is a very good system but we just cannot know it yet by the data.
Freedom is a paradox; To be free to play beautiful music, you have to submit to the rules of music.
Aug 12, 2010 at 06:28
gbptrades posted:
Exactly!!! If you build your account to 1000k of your own money, why do you wish to trade other peoples money and split the profit with them. Trade your own 1000k and keep 100% of the profits.
How about doing both? :)
Freedom is a paradox; To be free to play beautiful music, you have to submit to the rules of music.
Aug 12, 2010 at 06:33
Arbatov posted:
At increase in the capital, the trader wants to lower risk. The more the capital, the is less risk. For this reason, the trader trades in another's money.
I agree with this. I do the same couple of years now: my capital has been small, so I use like 30-35% expected drawdown setting/risk. But, did somebody give me to trade a very large capital, I would decrease the risk to around 18-20%. Even if I lose all my own capital (which should not really happen the way I do my money management even if the risk is bigger), its not the end of the world. But it would be much worse to lose huge capital.
Freedom is a paradox; To be free to play beautiful music, you have to submit to the rules of music.
Membre depuis Feb 16, 2010
posts 1332
Aug 12, 2010 at 07:43
(édité Aug 12, 2010 at 07:44)
tiras posted:
fomacc , Tom I would suggest you stop generalizing about ' russian drinking ' etc. I don't think it's polite and appropriate here.
It's not polite but it's a fact, national problem. Even Putin and Medvedev(https://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1917974,00.html) are worried about it. Drunk people are not in a clear state of mind and are capable of doing terrible things in terms of risk:
https://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/jun/29/drunk-oil-trader-banned-fsa
"In trading, winning is frequently a question of luck, but losing is always a matter of skill."
