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Dec 06, 2016 at 09:13
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Wow impressive performance, but how can you have zero drawdown if the average trade duration is 3 days? this would mean no trades initially went against you before closing them all in profit, I notice no losing trades. Which of your indicators on your site are in use for these results...? cheers
Dec 06, 2016 at 10:33
Membre depuis Nov 06, 2015
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Ozzie,
If you go to signalstar and check the open trades you will see that there is no single profitable trade (with very few exceptions) in profit since November 11. This means that if you had subscribed to the signal say 19 of November your account will be showing a HUGE DD.
The fact is that some of the trades opened in November are in positive. That is why equity is positive but I insist the account is carrying a lot of trades with HUGE DD.
Regards.
If you go to signalstar and check the open trades you will see that there is no single profitable trade (with very few exceptions) in profit since November 11. This means that if you had subscribed to the signal say 19 of November your account will be showing a HUGE DD.
The fact is that some of the trades opened in November are in positive. That is why equity is positive but I insist the account is carrying a lot of trades with HUGE DD.
Regards.
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Dec 06, 2016 at 10:39
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I didn't realise this was on signal start? I will try find it.
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Dec 06, 2016 at 11:06
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Pablo51 posted:yes I understand now yes since 21 november huge amount of trades with large drawdown and looks like no SL or TP sets
Ozzie,
If you go to signalstar and check the open trades you will see that there is no single profitable trade (with very few exceptions) in profit since November 11. This means that if you had subscribed to the signal say 19 of November your account will be showing a HUGE DD.
The fact is that some of the trades opened in November are in positive. That is why equity is positive but I insist the account is carrying a lot of trades with HUGE DD.
Regards.
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Dec 06, 2016 at 12:46
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here is the secret of th eprofit
11.09.2016 09:24 11.09.2016 10:31 XAUUSD Sell 0.01 - - 1318.93000 1302.98000 1595.0 15.95 1h 6m +15,950%
11.09.2016 10:29 - - Withdrawal - - - -100.40 - -
11.09.2016 07:15 - - Deposit - - - 100.00
He deposit $100, open xauusd trade and once it was profitable he withdraw 100.4
So with practically zero deposit the profit on this single small trade is 15 950%
:)
At this is evaluated as the best signal :)
11.09.2016 09:24 11.09.2016 10:31 XAUUSD Sell 0.01 - - 1318.93000 1302.98000 1595.0 15.95 1h 6m +15,950%
11.09.2016 10:29 - - Withdrawal - - - -100.40 - -
11.09.2016 07:15 - - Deposit - - - 100.00
He deposit $100, open xauusd trade and once it was profitable he withdraw 100.4
So with practically zero deposit the profit on this single small trade is 15 950%
:)
At this is evaluated as the best signal :)
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Dec 06, 2016 at 13:20
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togr posted:okay thanks for pointing this out I was trying to rack my head around the profit numbers with it being a verified account and all. cheers
here is the secret of th eprofit
11.09.2016 09:24 11.09.2016 10:31 XAUUSD Sell 0.01 - - 1318.93000 1302.98000 1595.0 15.95 1h 6m +15,950%
11.09.2016 10:29 - - Withdrawal - - - -100.40 - -
11.09.2016 07:15 - - Deposit - - - 100.00
He deposit $100, open xauusd trade and once it was profitable he withdraw 100.4
So with practically zero deposit the profit on this single small trade is 15 950%
:)
At this is evaluated as the best signal :)
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Dec 06, 2016 at 16:04
(édité Dec 06, 2016 at 16:10)
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aeries posted:I had a look at the history on signal start and togr is correct there is definitely some sort of manipulation of deposits and withdrawals to increase the % return massively and therefore by ranked much higher on signal start. One example on 11 Nov
Market slayer is better for me. I saw on signal start too
11.10.2016 20:16 - - Withdrawal - - - -2.21 - -
11.10.2016 17:12 11.10.2016 18:18 XAUUSD Sell 0.01 - 1263.78000 1264.83000 1263.76000 107.0 1.07 +50%
11.10.2016 14:19 11.10.2016 16:49 EURUSD Sell 0.01 - - 1.08862 1.08740 12.2 1.14
Good that history is open on signal start even if closed on myfxbook now I know another thing to look for when analysis systems on these sites, manipulation of deposits and withdrawals to increase % returns.
So the way the scam works is that you deposit say $100, you then make a trade and make say $15, you then withdraw $99, and signal start off sets the withdrawal against the deposit, saying you deposited $1 and calculates the percentage return of the $15 win on a net deposit of $1! I see why connectforex / simpletrader are introducing more filters to weed out these systems on their network thanks again Togr for pointing out the deposits / withdrawals.
Dec 07, 2016 at 07:25
Membre depuis Dec 04, 2016
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aeronthomas posted:aeries posted:I had a look at the history on signal start and togr is correct there is definitely some sort of manipulation of deposits and withdrawals to increase the % return massively and therefore by ranked much higher on signal start. One example on 11 Nov
Market slayer is better for me. I saw on signal start too
11.10.2016 20:16 - - Withdrawal - - - -2.21 - -
11.10.2016 17:12 11.10.2016 18:18 XAUUSD Sell 0.01 - 1263.78000 1264.83000 1263.76000 107.0 1.07 +50%
11.10.2016 14:19 11.10.2016 16:49 EURUSD Sell 0.01 - - 1.08862 1.08740 12.2 1.14
Good that history is open on signal start even if closed on myfxbook now I know another thing to look for when analysis systems on these sites, manipulation of deposits and withdrawals to increase % returns.
So the way the scam works is that you deposit say $100, you then make a trade and make say $15, you then withdraw $99, and signal start off sets the withdrawal against the deposit, saying you deposited $1 and calculates the percentage return of the $15 win on a net deposit of $1! I see why connectforex / simpletrader are introducing more filters to weed out these systems on their network thanks again Togr for pointing out the deposits / withdrawals.
how can they be scam if the make profit?
Even if they withdraw money, the point is they have good perfirmance.
no dd,
no loss,
floating profit.
verified my myfxbook,
can you do that Ozzie Matt?
For me, in any aspect, it is a great performance no doubt
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Dec 07, 2016 at 07:35
(édité Dec 07, 2016 at 07:35)
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i'm just pointing out the percentage profits have been manipulated via the method explained above it's tricking the signal start and myfxbook way of calculating returns. so instead of earning say 15% on a day's trade signal start will report it as 1500%. But yes it's profitable I just prefer to deal with honest systems / vendors not those trying to game the myfxbook and signal start systems. Just followers need to be aware their performance will be nothing like the myfxbook / signal start results in terms of percentage returns, but the pip count per trade should be similar allowing for slippage in the copying process from signal start. Most people won't have picked up this manipulation and will be very surprised when their returns look nothing like the vendors. cheers
Membre depuis Feb 22, 2011
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Dec 07, 2016 at 09:13
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aeronthomas posted:aeries posted:I had a look at the history on signal start and togr is correct there is definitely some sort of manipulation of deposits and withdrawals to increase the % return massively and therefore by ranked much higher on signal start. One example on 11 Nov
Market slayer is better for me. I saw on signal start too
11.10.2016 20:16 - - Withdrawal - - - -2.21 - -
11.10.2016 17:12 11.10.2016 18:18 XAUUSD Sell 0.01 - 1263.78000 1264.83000 1263.76000 107.0 1.07 +50%
11.10.2016 14:19 11.10.2016 16:49 EURUSD Sell 0.01 - - 1.08862 1.08740 12.2 1.14
Good that history is open on signal start even if closed on myfxbook now I know another thing to look for when analysis systems on these sites, manipulation of deposits and withdrawals to increase % returns.
So the way the scam works is that you deposit say $100, you then make a trade and make say $15, you then withdraw $99, and signal start off sets the withdrawal against the deposit, saying you deposited $1 and calculates the percentage return of the $15 win on a net deposit of $1! I see why connectforex / simpletrader are introducing more filters to weed out these systems on their network thanks again Togr for pointing out the deposits / withdrawals.
There should be simple rule. To become signalstart provider you should verify your MFB account AND open the history including lots.
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Dec 09, 2016 at 08:37
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dmdena posted:sorry to hear of your loss. I hope the posts above help others to avoid signal providers who are manipulating the signal trader and myfxbook analysis with this deposit and withdrawal strategy.
I can attest to this...Elite blew my real account in 1 day, i had $200 in the account.
Dec 09, 2016 at 10:15
Membre depuis Dec 04, 2016
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dmdena posted:
I can attest to this...Elite blew my real account in 1 day, i had $200 in the account.
maybe you have small deposit. My account so far have around 100 open trades, in small lots
if you only have 200$ deposit, with 100 open trades, it will surely blow.
start with 2000 at least.
my account doing fine. all in profit so far.
brilliant positive equity today because of EUR yesterday
Cheers
Membre depuis Feb 22, 2011
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Dec 09, 2016 at 12:48
Membre depuis Feb 22, 2011
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aeries posted:dmdena posted:
I can attest to this...Elite blew my real account in 1 day, i had $200 in the account.
maybe you have small deposit. My account so far have around 100 open trades, in small lots
if you only have 200$ deposit, with 100 open trades, it will surely blow.
start with 2000 at least.
my account doing fine. all in profit so far.
brilliant positive equity today because of EUR yesterday
Cheers
and why is your account not published?
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Dec 15, 2016 at 09:17
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aeries posted:
brilliant performance yesterday. my account doing great.
best signal so far
@aeries
You brilliant why dont you publish your account to support your statement?
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