Smart Scalper 1.1 (de MQLHome)
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Discussion Smart Scalper 1.1
Aug 03, 2010 at 21:58
The product they sold me absolutely does not function on live accounts. I have tried it on five different live accounts. They offered a money back guarantee on their website, and then removed it when I asked for my money back. Claimed it was removed 3 months ago. The problem with that bald face lie is that I never heard of them til 2 weeks ago. I saved a copy of their web page (with guarantee 3 days ago) and in addition , they assured me by email that my money would be refunded if I wasn't happy.
Maybe they will put up a live account sooner or later, but it will certainly not be running what they sold me.
Here is link to an account running this POS for a week. https://www.myfxbook.com/members/jprize/ss-112-ibfx-real/42626
He will say settings are wrong or some other nonsense. I sent him screenshots of all settings & asked him to point out what was wrong....nothing
If anyone woluld like documentation that these people are liars, contact me.
Maybe they will put up a live account sooner or later, but it will certainly not be running what they sold me.
Here is link to an account running this POS for a week. https://www.myfxbook.com/members/jprize/ss-112-ibfx-real/42626
He will say settings are wrong or some other nonsense. I sent him screenshots of all settings & asked him to point out what was wrong....nothing
If anyone woluld like documentation that these people are liars, contact me.
Membre depuis Feb 16, 2010
posts 1332
Aug 04, 2010 at 07:24
I think there's 45 days money back period from PayPal.
"In trading, winning is frequently a question of luck, but losing is always a matter of skill."
Aug 04, 2010 at 15:06
Dear Jprize
You are not honest. You have sent us several email and we have answered all of them to make you satisfied and solve your problems.
All traders know that an EA result may be different on different brokers. You easily call us liars ...
The money back guarantee was only for our last EA (Tortoise 2.1) . Be sure we have never published any thing about money back for this EA. We even haven't lucked our EAs which means you can use them on several accounts. We did that because we always trusted you and all of the customers.
We are honest enough to share our EA live results and answer to the all questions.
I hope you be always successful and have a good results with our EA.
Best Regards
MQLHome Group
You are not honest. You have sent us several email and we have answered all of them to make you satisfied and solve your problems.
All traders know that an EA result may be different on different brokers. You easily call us liars ...
The money back guarantee was only for our last EA (Tortoise 2.1) . Be sure we have never published any thing about money back for this EA. We even haven't lucked our EAs which means you can use them on several accounts. We did that because we always trusted you and all of the customers.
We are honest enough to share our EA live results and answer to the all questions.
I hope you be always successful and have a good results with our EA.
Best Regards
MQLHome Group
Aug 04, 2010 at 16:32
As you are well aware You gave your word of money back in addition to the money back guarantee that you removed from your website a couple days ago. I have copies of the web page you deleted as well as your personal emails promising my money back if I was unhappy. I'm happy to provide these to anyone, including Attorney Generals in your state and mine. You lied about when the webpage was edited and you lied in emails promising my money bach. That is the definition of a liar. Even on your my fxbook page https://www.myfxbook.com/members/MQLHome You state 'ALL OF OUR PRODUCTS HAVE MONEY BACK GUARANTEE' Your words not mine... And yes I saved a copy of that as well. Running to edoit it now won't help you.
The more you talk the more you lie.
The more you talk the more you lie.
Aug 04, 2010 at 18:17
I'm really sorry for you. Check your email. In the last email before you buy the EA I have told you these words 'Our products are not free to try'
I'm not worry about any thing because I've many customers who are satisfied with our EA and also our support.
I'm really sorry to talking in this way but you are the real lair. You can say any thing about us but we still continue our work and will open a new real account soon and prove how our EA works.
I suggest you to learn more about MT4. Most of your problems was about setting the EA which is really simple.
Regards
I'm not worry about any thing because I've many customers who are satisfied with our EA and also our support.
I'm really sorry to talking in this way but you are the real lair. You can say any thing about us but we still continue our work and will open a new real account soon and prove how our EA works.
I suggest you to learn more about MT4. Most of your problems was about setting the EA which is really simple.
Regards
forex_trader_7
Membre depuis Aug 01, 2009
posts 941
Aug 04, 2010 at 18:24
(édité Aug 04, 2010 at 18:34)
I don't know hey, sounds very familiar.....
Where's that other thread again? The Ea you don't sell anymore in the interest of your clients cause it's a car with no brakes??
Besides that I thought all the clients were happy. This one looks pretty irritated to me.
Where's that other thread again? The Ea you don't sell anymore in the interest of your clients cause it's a car with no brakes??
Besides that I thought all the clients were happy. This one looks pretty irritated to me.
Aug 04, 2010 at 20:52
Where are all those many happy clients. If your product performed as represented for me, I would certainly be here singing your praises. I've posted my live account running your EA for anyone to see. I've offered you screenshots of all my settings (exactly the settings you instructed) for you to review and point out anything wrong. You have ignored these because you know that is not the issue.
If you have many happy clients, let just a couple hundred of them post their live results here.
And how is it that you have been saying for a month that you are Trying to set up live account. How is it that it only takes me a couple days and after a month someone like you wih 'Vast knowlege of forex markets' is still TRYING.
Shall I answer my own question..... Either you have put it on live accounts and you wouldn't want anyone to see the results, or you know damn welll it won't work on live accounts.
BTW....It still says on your fxbook bio...'ALL our products have money back guarantee' What is your definition of the word ALL?
If you have many happy clients, let just a couple hundred of them post their live results here.
And how is it that you have been saying for a month that you are Trying to set up live account. How is it that it only takes me a couple days and after a month someone like you wih 'Vast knowlege of forex markets' is still TRYING.
Shall I answer my own question..... Either you have put it on live accounts and you wouldn't want anyone to see the results, or you know damn welll it won't work on live accounts.
BTW....It still says on your fxbook bio...'ALL our products have money back guarantee' What is your definition of the word ALL?
Aug 05, 2010 at 22:39
Here are the settings on live account at IBFX, the broker you suggested and the settings you specified. The inputs are yours; exactly as I received them. There have been no trades in two weeks. If any of these settings are wrong , please advise
https://www.jungleenterprises.com/Doc3.htm
https://www.jungleenterprises.com/Doc3.htm
Aug 06, 2010 at 09:14
I offered you that before. The only condition was that , if you get it to work on this account that you return control of the account to me, and provide me with exactly the same EA and same configuration that worked. To this you responded ' You can continue to test the EA yourself'.
If you run something on my account that makes trades and makes money and it is not the same thing you give to me. What does that have to do with this product? I want the product you sold me to work. I have several EA's running on numerous accounts and all work except the one you sold me.
As I answered before; You are welcome to take control of this account for a few weeks. If you get Smart scalper to work on it with results similar to what you show in this demo, I need you to provide me with exactly the same EA and return control to me.....And of course, if you can't do thes things, I would like my money back.
If you run something on my account that makes trades and makes money and it is not the same thing you give to me. What does that have to do with this product? I want the product you sold me to work. I have several EA's running on numerous accounts and all work except the one you sold me.
As I answered before; You are welcome to take control of this account for a few weeks. If you get Smart scalper to work on it with results similar to what you show in this demo, I need you to provide me with exactly the same EA and return control to me.....And of course, if you can't do thes things, I would like my money back.
forex_trader_7
Membre depuis Aug 01, 2009
posts 941
Aug 06, 2010 at 09:18
You'll never get your money back JP.
If these dudes refunded they'd be out of business.
If these dudes refunded they'd be out of business.
Aug 06, 2010 at 09:42
(édité Aug 06, 2010 at 09:54)
jprize posted:
I offered you that before. The only condition was that , if you get it to work on this account that you return control of the account to me, and provide me with exactly the same EA and same configuration that worked. To this you responded ' You can continue to test the EA yourself'.
If you run something on my account that makes trades and makes money and it is not the same thing you give to me. What does that have to do with this product? I want the product you sold me to work. I have several EA's running on numerous accounts and all work except the one you sold me.
As I answered before; You are welcome to take control of this account for a few weeks. If you get Smart scalper to work on it with results similar to what you show in this demo, I need you to provide me with exactly the same EA and return control to me.....And of course, if you can't do thes things, I would like my money back.
Dear Jprize
I've sent you a new version which has been modified for IBFX.
The EA is the same but I've set the 'Hide_SL' parameter to true and also raised max allowed spread to 3.5 pips. It should work well. Please test ot and let us know the result.
Regards
Aug 06, 2010 at 09:50
I will...and everyone can see the result here.... https://www.myfxbook.com/members/jprize/ss-112-ibfx-real/42626
Aug 06, 2010 at 19:44
Well I think it was better when it took no trades. In one day it managed to be down as much as 60% equity (open trades). Looks like it is likely to leave me holding open trades over the weekend down about 30-40%.
Real money smart scalper
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/jprize/ss-112-ibfx-real/42626
Real money smart scalper
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/jprize/ss-112-ibfx-real/42626
Aug 06, 2010 at 23:39
Membre depuis Apr 20, 2010
posts 814
Aug 07, 2010 at 05:25
Look the Forex EA market is big, and many people rich enough just put real money to trade even the Broker is different.
Refund is never an issue for customer as long as they did not pass the guaranteed DAYS set by the portal payment service.
Seller can said that they guarantee Refund in 14 Days or 7 Days, but it can not overwrite the Portal Payment Policy.
Customer just need to login to Paypal or ClickBank and request Resolve this payment, money will automatic refund within weeks.
Most EA only work well on Alpari, such as Fapturbo and Megadroid.
The data feed of Alpari data probably is more sensitive and 5 digit.
Seem like many trader still very New and didn't do back test and demo test before play on real money.
Well same as me, been through that part already and still lose money even play well in 3 month demo.
So disaster do make you become master if you try long enough.
Visit my signature link below and see how I test demo for 10 month first before start testing in real.
Refund is never an issue for customer as long as they did not pass the guaranteed DAYS set by the portal payment service.
Seller can said that they guarantee Refund in 14 Days or 7 Days, but it can not overwrite the Portal Payment Policy.
Customer just need to login to Paypal or ClickBank and request Resolve this payment, money will automatic refund within weeks.
Most EA only work well on Alpari, such as Fapturbo and Megadroid.
The data feed of Alpari data probably is more sensitive and 5 digit.
Seem like many trader still very New and didn't do back test and demo test before play on real money.
Well same as me, been through that part already and still lose money even play well in 3 month demo.
So disaster do make you become master if you try long enough.
Visit my signature link below and see how I test demo for 10 month first before start testing in real.
Information is Gold when come to organised.
forex_trader_7
Membre depuis Aug 01, 2009
posts 941
Aug 07, 2010 at 08:54
Doubletrap...
Load of dwang that.
Someone on this board was complaining the other day because Paypal didn't help them to get a refund.
Most EA's work on any broker, not only Alpari. Of course you'd have to know what it actually does to manage it.
Back tests are useless as you know since you lost money even after testing.
And disaster certainly doesn't make you better for it. Not of you're being deliberately misled as is the case in 99.9% of EA sales.
Load of dwang that.
Someone on this board was complaining the other day because Paypal didn't help them to get a refund.
Most EA's work on any broker, not only Alpari. Of course you'd have to know what it actually does to manage it.
Back tests are useless as you know since you lost money even after testing.
And disaster certainly doesn't make you better for it. Not of you're being deliberately misled as is the case in 99.9% of EA sales.
Membre depuis Apr 20, 2010
posts 814
Aug 07, 2010 at 09:48
(édité Aug 07, 2010 at 09:48)
So you saying that back test is useless, then you just put real money to test and wait for the outcome ?
A disaster certainly don't make everyone better. But for sure the Master is once a disaster and of course not everyone is a Master.
So look like we have a rich customer helping out the seller do live test, hmmm.. I guess most people don't believe in demo and like to try it on real.
Paypal usually have to investigate the case first as they not just selling e-product.
While clickbank is more bias to customer, 100% refund within 60 days as they only delivery e-product.
A disaster certainly don't make everyone better. But for sure the Master is once a disaster and of course not everyone is a Master.
So look like we have a rich customer helping out the seller do live test, hmmm.. I guess most people don't believe in demo and like to try it on real.
Paypal usually have to investigate the case first as they not just selling e-product.
While clickbank is more bias to customer, 100% refund within 60 days as they only delivery e-product.
Information is Gold when come to organised.
