sPhantom Auto Trader (de sPhantom)
| Gain : | +694.0% |
| Drawdown | 91.94% |
| Pips: | 1266.4 |
| Transactions | 261 |
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| Type: | Réel |
| Levier: | 1:400 |
| Trading: | Automatisé |
Discussion sPhantom Auto Trader
Membre depuis Jun 03, 2013
posts 80
Feb 27, 2014 at 09:28
jiang posted:
You follow this $300 system with $200 money,just for fun?
Yeah. In fact, i just want to check and monitor how is their signal entry.
P.S: The license fee and capital were my profit return from other source. So i risk nothing.
Feb 27, 2014 at 09:39
About their signal entry,you gen get full records from
https://statements.forexpeacearmy.com/s_phantom_real/statement_new.htm
The backtest report
https://www.sphantom.com/sPhantom%20Results/StrategyTester.htm
It is enough for your check and monitor.😀
https://statements.forexpeacearmy.com/s_phantom_real/statement_new.htm
The backtest report
https://www.sphantom.com/sPhantom%20Results/StrategyTester.htm
It is enough for your check and monitor.😀
Feb 27, 2014 at 11:03
pilotas posted:I don't think someone will give something payed 300 USd (also if it is a scrap) for free! If u want to experiment the risky feeling that only this Ea can give u, u must pay something! Look at now: 2 buy trades open with huge s/l with so much red news coming! It deserve some hundreds dollars, or not?😉
would take phantom licence for free if somebody would like to cancel it
Running only Expert advisors with good long term backtests and nice forward tests
forex_trader_12567
Membre depuis May 29, 2010
posts 276
Feb 27, 2014 at 11:17
pilotas posted:
would take phantom licence for free if somebody would like to cancel it
how about this? i will share the sphantom signal using a other copy signal EA but you will be charged usd 30 monthly payment. 😝
Feb 27, 2014 at 11:20
aryaforex posted:It's a very good idea! there is no price for the feeling that every day u don't know if ur account will survive or will be b😂lown!pilotas posted:
would take phantom licence for free if somebody would like to cancel it
how about this? i will share the sphantom signal using a other copy signal EA but you will be charged usd 30 monthly payment. 😝
Running only Expert advisors with good long term backtests and nice forward tests
Feb 27, 2014 at 11:22
Now is like a russian roulette! If with Yellen speaking price will spike up ur accounts will be saved! if down ...!!!! What a nice money managment! what significant update and improvement!😲
Running only Expert advisors with good long term backtests and nice forward tests
forex_trader_12567
Membre depuis May 29, 2010
posts 276
Feb 27, 2014 at 11:36
corre71 posted:aryaforex posted:It's a very good idea! there is no price for the feeling that every day u don't know if ur account will survive or will be b😂lown!pilotas posted:
would take phantom licence for free if somebody would like to cancel it
how about this? i will share the sphantom signal using a other copy signal EA but you will be charged usd 30 monthly payment. 😝
I'll be survived. But i don't the master signal, sphantom :) i will use fixed lot 0.1 if some one want this solution... i don't is it legal or not.
Feb 27, 2014 at 12:11
aryaforex posted:pilotas posted:
would take phantom licence for free if somebody would like to cancel it
how about this? i will share the sphantom signal using a other copy signal EA but you will be charged usd 30 monthly payment. 😝
if you are ready to pay me 300 in case of 'disaster' :) it's even less to TP/SL ratio (10/~450)
forex_trader_12567
Membre depuis May 29, 2010
posts 276
Feb 27, 2014 at 12:44
(édité Feb 27, 2014 at 12:45)
pilotas posted:aryaforex posted:pilotas posted:
would take phantom licence for free if somebody would like to cancel it
how about this? i will share the sphantom signal using a other copy signal EA but you will be charged usd 30 monthly payment. 😝
if you are ready to pay me 300 in case of 'disaster' :) it's even less to TP/SL ratio (10/~450)
I'm not in the middle of negotiation. Take it or leave it. :) i think other trade copier have option to execute immediately or postpone until certain period. You can adjust the TP n SL too. Don't make it serious this offer because i don't know this is legal or not.
Btw, i'm using collaboration sphantom n swiss army ea especially breakeven and breakeven slide feature so it will adjust the TP and SL. Hope more profit :)
Membre depuis Jun 03, 2013
posts 80
Feb 27, 2014 at 13:50
(édité Feb 27, 2014 at 13:50)
jiang:
Thanks for your information. However, i prefer LIVE monitoring. So far i noticed sometimes the entry signal is not good, example short at support, but i long at my other account which is better (Long at low, short at high).
Thanks for your information. However, i prefer LIVE monitoring. So far i noticed sometimes the entry signal is not good, example short at support, but i long at my other account which is better (Long at low, short at high).
Membre depuis May 08, 2012
posts 321
Feb 27, 2014 at 13:55
Nice positive divergence is set up. Be patient.
Fichiers joints:
War is when your government tells you who the enemy is. Revolution is when you figure out, for yourself, who the enemy is.
Feb 27, 2014 at 14:02
Did it happen to anyone else that the first trade closed in profit?
I have Pepperstone. ForexFactory records show an open of 1.3685, mine was opened at 1.3684 and closed at 1.3695 (just barely made it). The second trade was not opened.
Maybe the second trades are opened locally? Or the server sends a signal that this would be a second trade, so the client only opens it if there is already one opened?
The idea of a second trade seems less and less legit for me. It has no context, just entering randomly? (I know, it just closed while I was writing this, but we all know what could happen during red news.)
I have Pepperstone. ForexFactory records show an open of 1.3685, mine was opened at 1.3684 and closed at 1.3695 (just barely made it). The second trade was not opened.
Maybe the second trades are opened locally? Or the server sends a signal that this would be a second trade, so the client only opens it if there is already one opened?
The idea of a second trade seems less and less legit for me. It has no context, just entering randomly? (I know, it just closed while I was writing this, but we all know what could happen during red news.)
Membre depuis Jan 29, 2014
posts 23
Feb 27, 2014 at 14:10
Still don't get what's the second trade about. It looks like when a position has gone -25 PIps away, opens a position in the same direction.
Can anybody tell me what is it about, please? Is this EA assuming that MAE is around 25 Pips and after that it should bounce back to positive levels?
Can anybody tell me what is it about, please? Is this EA assuming that MAE is around 25 Pips and after that it should bounce back to positive levels?
Feb 27, 2014 at 14:15
gombosg posted:
Did it happen to anyone else that the first trade closed in profit?
I have Pepperstone. ForexFactory records show an open of 1.3685, mine was opened at 1.3684 and closed at 1.3695 (just barely made it). The second trade was not opened.
Maybe the second trades are opened locally? Or the server sends a signal that this would be a second trade, so the client only opens it if there is already one opened?
The idea of a second trade seems less and less legit for me. It has no context, just entering randomly? (I know, it just closed while I was writing this, but we all know what could happen during red news.)
Different broker have different ticks. If you want to have the same ticks with sphantom ,the same broker(IBFX AU) is better.
Feb 27, 2014 at 14:16
enicolasgomez posted:Just like the grid trading with 2 levels
Still don't get what's the second trade about. It looks like when a position has gone -25 PIps away, opens a position in the same direction.
Can anybody tell me what is it about, please? Is this EA assuming that MAE is around 25 Pips and after that it should bounce back to positive levels?
Feb 27, 2014 at 14:19
It is not always at -25 pips the 2nd position! sometimes more (-50 and more)! I have bought this (let's call it)EA (and it is my worts deal ever), but u can find a lot of free EA better than this, with news filter, adaptive t/p and s/l and time filters (u can also choose how many trades to open in the same direction, the step and other stuff. Just google and u will find!😉
Running only Expert advisors with good long term backtests and nice forward tests
Membre depuis Jun 03, 2013
posts 80
Feb 27, 2014 at 14:19
Yeah. Nothing special for 2nd position, it is just the grid. Just like today, i am not sure why they enter 2nd position so early, as there was no divergence yet.
Membre depuis May 08, 2012
posts 321
Feb 27, 2014 at 14:32
(édité Feb 27, 2014 at 14:35)
I see a lot of guessing going on as to where one should place a revised stop loss. When you download the historical trades in a .csv, it provides you the draw down of each trade as well as the end result of the trade, both in pips. With this information, you can begin to get your arms around where a reasonable stop loss should be.
I've attached a spread sheet that reviews stop losses set in 5 point increments from 60 to 135 pips. There is a sweet spot somewhere between limiting your losses and allowing the trade to work. Columns A & B reflect the historical results of sPhantom performance. It is not in historical order. Rather, the data is sorted from the largest loss to the largest win. I am not trying to develop a running equity curve here, but just trying to see where the stops should be based on all current available data. At the bottom of each column, it reflects the win/loss ration of the stop selection, as well as the uncompounded rate of return of the historical period as well as the annualized rate of return. There are three variables at the top that will allow you to customize it for your portfolio size and risk appetite. Base on your risk setting and portfolio size, each stop loss shows the lot size to be traded for that setting.
Based on what I think I am seeing, the proper stop loss is 105 pips. Using a 5% per trade portfolio risk, this yields and annualized return of 68%. You can theoretically squeeze out a couple more percent by increasing the stops to 135 pips, but I don’t think it’s worth it. This is, after all , horseshoes and hand grenades as past results are not reflective of future returns. The data is better than nothing though. Boosting your risk to 7 ½% of portfolio will theoretically get you 100% annualized returns. These rates are no compounded. Letting the money ride and increasing the lot sizes as you equity grow will improve your results. This may be a reasonable think to do now that you've exposed to a death by a thousand cuts rather than the black swan events.
Before anyone starts “constructively criticizing” (read screaming) that they can’t live with a 105 pip stop loss, remember that the larger the loss that you are willing to accept, the smaller the lot size you are allowed to trade. If you accept a 5% portfolio risk on each trade, You are risking 5% and that’s all. The higher the stop in pips, the smaller the lost size you get to trade. When you lose, you lose 5%. Now, it’s a matter of how often.
I will update this every 6 months or so to see if adjustments need to be made. I will ask sPhantom to make me a custom EA with a 105 pip stop. Given there stellar response times, I may get that next year. For the time being, I will implement the adjusting EA.
If you like this, and you can, give me vouch, eh?
I've attached a spread sheet that reviews stop losses set in 5 point increments from 60 to 135 pips. There is a sweet spot somewhere between limiting your losses and allowing the trade to work. Columns A & B reflect the historical results of sPhantom performance. It is not in historical order. Rather, the data is sorted from the largest loss to the largest win. I am not trying to develop a running equity curve here, but just trying to see where the stops should be based on all current available data. At the bottom of each column, it reflects the win/loss ration of the stop selection, as well as the uncompounded rate of return of the historical period as well as the annualized rate of return. There are three variables at the top that will allow you to customize it for your portfolio size and risk appetite. Base on your risk setting and portfolio size, each stop loss shows the lot size to be traded for that setting.
Based on what I think I am seeing, the proper stop loss is 105 pips. Using a 5% per trade portfolio risk, this yields and annualized return of 68%. You can theoretically squeeze out a couple more percent by increasing the stops to 135 pips, but I don’t think it’s worth it. This is, after all , horseshoes and hand grenades as past results are not reflective of future returns. The data is better than nothing though. Boosting your risk to 7 ½% of portfolio will theoretically get you 100% annualized returns. These rates are no compounded. Letting the money ride and increasing the lot sizes as you equity grow will improve your results. This may be a reasonable think to do now that you've exposed to a death by a thousand cuts rather than the black swan events.
Before anyone starts “constructively criticizing” (read screaming) that they can’t live with a 105 pip stop loss, remember that the larger the loss that you are willing to accept, the smaller the lot size you are allowed to trade. If you accept a 5% portfolio risk on each trade, You are risking 5% and that’s all. The higher the stop in pips, the smaller the lost size you get to trade. When you lose, you lose 5%. Now, it’s a matter of how often.
I will update this every 6 months or so to see if adjustments need to be made. I will ask sPhantom to make me a custom EA with a 105 pip stop. Given there stellar response times, I may get that next year. For the time being, I will implement the adjusting EA.
If you like this, and you can, give me vouch, eh?
Fichiers joints:
War is when your government tells you who the enemy is. Revolution is when you figure out, for yourself, who the enemy is.
Feb 27, 2014 at 14:49
enicolasgomez posted:
Still don't get what's the second trade about. It looks like when a position has gone -25 PIps away, opens a position in the same direction.
Can anybody tell me what is it about, please? Is this EA assuming that MAE is around 25 Pips and after that it should bounce back to positive levels?
I'm afraid that this is a gambling thing. We don't want that. Either you have to watch the trades closely and close the second one as soon as it opens, or maybe set a tight SL for the original one. I don't know, but AFAIK you wouldn't do this in manual trading.
