Truffelz (de CycleTrader)

Gain : -92.76%
Drawdown 96.19%
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Type: Démo
Levier: 1:100
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Discussion Truffelz

Mar 04, 2010 at 21:22
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Membre depuis Sep 04, 2009   posts 879
Apr 09, 2010 at 20:55
Looks good.. a bit of grid/martingale involved?
Membre depuis Feb 25, 2010   posts 29
Apr 20, 2010 at 12:46
Yes correct
Membre depuis Mar 07, 2010   posts 257
May 14, 2010 at 22:13
another directional martingale system

do you think this strategy can work at all in real life ?

RIP
Membre depuis Feb 25, 2010   posts 29
May 15, 2010 at 19:03
There is always this risk involved, perhaps when used on pair that retraces better, then it could perform better, but if there are positions open and the price goes against it like a mini crash then there happens the same like shown. If someone has a same sort of EA but perhaps slightly better in keeping DD lower and want to share i am courious to test.
Elkart
forex_trader_7
Membre depuis Aug 01, 2009   posts 941
May 16, 2010 at 12:02 (édité May 16, 2010 at 12:24)
I have an idea for you.

Do a partial trailing stop on equity. A separate EA that sits there and watches equity, and when the equity falls it starts reducing positions.
Elkart
forex_trader_7
Membre depuis Aug 01, 2009   posts 941
May 16, 2010 at 13:29
But in this case I don't think it's a draw down, more like a catastrophic failure....

Membre depuis Apr 20, 2010   posts 814
May 16, 2010 at 14:04
Look like a martingale grid system using guide of stochastic.

Which similar to my demo stochastic martin , which you need to chose one side as stochastic indicator normally fail on big trend.
Information is Gold when come to organised.
Membre depuis Feb 25, 2010   posts 29
May 17, 2010 at 21:34

Elkart posted:
    But in this case I don't think it's a draw down, more like a catastrophic failure....




It was just the price going against my position, here martingale openend max lots in wrong direction hoping for retracement but retracement did not come in time, instead margin call was closing the floating.
Membre depuis Feb 25, 2010   posts 29
May 17, 2010 at 21:36

Elkart posted:
    I have an idea for you.

Do a partial trailing stop on equity. A separate EA that sits there and watches equity, and when the equity falls it starts reducing positions.


Did a backtest with stop on equity, the curve shows a stepperwise line down to zero.
Membre depuis Feb 25, 2010   posts 29
May 17, 2010 at 21:39 (édité May 17, 2010 at 21:41)
ForexSeeker posted:
    Look like a martingale grid system using guide of stochastic.

Which similar to my demo stochastic martin , which you need to chose one side as stochastic indicator normally fail on big trend.

Your stochastic martin is still alive, but do you know if there are martingale type of ea that do not easy fail on big trend?
Membre depuis Feb 25, 2010   posts 29
May 17, 2010 at 21:45
I am looking for equity curve function on myfxbook, but it lacks. Someone knows a similar site that does support equity curve?
Membre depuis Feb 25, 2010   posts 29
May 17, 2010 at 21:58 (édité May 17, 2010 at 22:03)
Elkart posted:
    I have an idea for you.

Do a partial trailing stop on equity. A separate EA that sits there and watches equity, and when the equity falls it starts reducing positions.


EA that watches equity would be good, my idea is to use for instance 10 martingale type eas in one account (ten different pairs) and when one ea hits max equity DD it should automatically closing his positions and stop trading a while, so it prevent blow the account further and similtaniously the other 9 EA's still build equity and so overcome the loss caused by the loosing one.
Membre depuis Sep 04, 2009   posts 879
May 17, 2010 at 22:28

CycleTrader posted:
    
Elkart posted:
    I have an idea for you.

Do a partial trailing stop on equity. A separate EA that sits there and watches equity, and when the equity falls it starts reducing positions.


EA that watches equity would be good, my idea is to use for instance 10 martingale type eas in one account (ten different pairs) and when one ea hits max equity DD it should automatically closing his positions and stop trading a while, so it prevent blow the account further and similtaniously the other 9 EA's still build equity and so overcome the loss caused by the loosing one.


LOL good luck!
Membre depuis Feb 25, 2010   posts 29
May 18, 2010 at 18:18

pc8multifx posted:
    
CycleTrader posted:
    
Elkart posted:
    I have an idea for you.

Do a partial trailing stop on equity. A separate EA that sits there and watches equity, and when the equity falls it starts reducing positions.


EA that watches equity would be good, my idea is to use for instance 10 martingale type eas in one account (ten different pairs) and when one ea hits max equity DD it should automatically closing his positions and stop trading a while, so it prevent blow the account further and similtaniously the other 9 EA's still build equity and so overcome the loss caused by the loosing one.


LOL good luck!


Sounds like you tested already :-) Any suggestions?
Membre depuis Sep 04, 2009   posts 879
May 18, 2010 at 19:08 (édité May 18, 2010 at 19:12)
I lought out loud, bc we(three guys) worked YEARS to get the puzzle of a multi pair adaptive marty together...

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/pc8multifx/xpipstrendmulti/15435

Since such approach cant be backtestet, every single traded pair has to survive the 10y. backtest first and than adjusted to a basket of pairs...

Better u stay with the XBars ma scalper, this way u don't end up with grey hair.. ;-)
Membre depuis Feb 25, 2010   posts 29
May 18, 2010 at 20:15 (édité May 18, 2010 at 20:24)
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Membre depuis Feb 25, 2010   posts 29
May 18, 2010 at 20:16 (édité May 18, 2010 at 20:25)
pc8multifx posted:
    I lought out loud, bc we(three guys) worked YEARS to get the puzzle of a multi pair adaptive marty together...

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/pc8multifx/xpipstrendmulti/15435

Since such approach cant be backtestet, every single traded pair has to survive the 10y. backtest first and than adjusted to a basket of pairs...

Better u stay with the XBars ma scalper, this way u don't end up with grey hair.. ;-)

Until now the curve looks good, i see u use 4 Pairs. Although i can't see DD as equity-chart, did equity stay complete out of 'danger zone' in this period?
How does the EA handle floating loss when price keeps going against the max open martingale lots ? (You see what happened with mine...)
Membre depuis Sep 04, 2009   posts 879
May 18, 2010 at 20:39
If u have done your homework there will be no danger zone, neither it has to handle floating loss. These are problems of non adaptive martys.. Take a close look at the holding time for the trades... basket profit is the key word
Membre depuis Feb 25, 2010   posts 29
May 19, 2010 at 12:31

pc8multifx posted:
    If u have done your homework there will be no danger zone, neither it has to handle floating loss. These are problems of non adaptive martys.. Take a close look at the holding time for the trades... basket profit is the key word
Tried to see your holding time for the trades but could not find it, most of your details are set private. Does your EA use Timeout function? My EA has it, but was not set, also equitystop was not set in above curve. Currently my EA does not support basket profit, perhaps it should be added.
Membre depuis Sep 04, 2009   posts 879
May 19, 2010 at 14:04
Average holding time: go to Monthly Analytics and click on the colored columns...

For what should my system need a time out function??
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