Vortex Trader PRO (de vortextraderpro)
| Gain : | +2131.88% |
| Drawdown | 27.67% |
| Pips: | 2247.4 |
| Transactions | 474 |
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| Type: | Réel |
| Levier: | 1:200 |
| Trading: | Automatisé |
Discussion Vortex Trader PRO
May 27, 2015 at 10:10
LogicaLucidity posted:
If you would take the time to read this thread (only 1 page ago) Doug says ' I offer the EA as well after purchase upon request.' The thing that you do not understand is that all EA's use authentication software for Protection against thieves. This means that the EA has to check with a server somewhere that it is an authentic copy. It does this by using many types of numbers. Your receipt number is an example. No matter what, Doug and every single other author of ever EA ever has complete control if your signal works or your EA works. Any author of an EA can cut off access to the Authentication server making an EA useless and not able to operate. This has happened, many times in the past. Using an EA instead of a Signal does not resolve this issue. No user/client ever 'owns' an EA. You are granted the right to use it via an authentication tool. That is how every EA is and has always been. Simple EA 101. You are reaching for what if's that you have no control over. It is what it is.
LL
Hello, I am thinking about buying this EA. I have never bought an EA before so I have a couple of questions.
According to what was said on page 54-55 and the quote I have attached we don't have any control over the EA.
What would happen WHEN something happens to Doug?? Health issues, death, just says F it and does something else?
Is everyone here just here to ride out the wave of profits for the time being and not care about what would happen 3-5 years down the line?
Membre depuis May 20, 2011
posts 724
May 27, 2015 at 10:59
(édité May 27, 2015 at 10:59)
narf posted:LOL ! nothing is guaranteed. Doug could vanish now and nothing would happen, just a whole lot of bitching and moaning on myfxbook.LogicaLucidity posted:
If you would take the time to read this thread (only 1 page ago) Doug says ' I offer the EA as well after purchase upon request.' The thing that you do not understand is that all EA's use authentication software for Protection against thieves. This means that the EA has to check with a server somewhere that it is an authentic copy. It does this by using many types of numbers. Your receipt number is an example. No matter what, Doug and every single other author of ever EA ever has complete control if your signal works or your EA works. Any author of an EA can cut off access to the Authentication server making an EA useless and not able to operate. This has happened, many times in the past. Using an EA instead of a Signal does not resolve this issue. No user/client ever 'owns' an EA. You are granted the right to use it via an authentication tool. That is how every EA is and has always been. Simple EA 101. You are reaching for what if's that you have no control over. It is what it is.
LL
Hello, I am thinking about buying this EA. I have never bought an EA before so I have a couple of questions.
According to what was said on page 54-55 and the quote I have attached we don't have any control over the EA.
What would happen WHEN something happens to Doug?? Health issues, death, just says F it and does something else?
Is everyone here just here to ride out the wave of profits for the time being and not care about what would happen 3-5 years down the line?
Membre depuis Feb 03, 2015
posts 84
May 27, 2015 at 18:44
Actually - I have backup plans for someone to continue managing everything for me or release EA to customers - if I'm not available for some reason or another.
Membre depuis Dec 23, 2013
posts 4
May 28, 2015 at 07:08
how do we know that this is not just another account manipulated by a server for better results ?
May 28, 2015 at 07:09
Here's a small piece of advice for anyone considering buying this EA.
If you are really serious about trading you must know that with any business you have to invest capital to get started. I started my business over 12 years ago I had to sign into a 5 year contract for the lease of the property I rented. I was not 100% sure that my business would work but I was willing to take that risk, I then had to buy stock, computers, vehicles and tools for my trade. Again, I was not 100% sure that my business would be a success but I was willing to work hard and take that risk. BUT had the business not worked out for me, I could have lost many 1000's
I'm sure that many of Doug's clients here would agree, risk and trust go hand-in-hand, it has worked out for me and many others and I'm sure that if you invest in this EA and follow his instructions closely you will get your investment back and make some serious profits It not a lot of money to invest... but for me, the rewards have been much better that I could have ever expected.
If you want to make serious money you have to invest first......
If you are really serious about trading you must know that with any business you have to invest capital to get started. I started my business over 12 years ago I had to sign into a 5 year contract for the lease of the property I rented. I was not 100% sure that my business would work but I was willing to take that risk, I then had to buy stock, computers, vehicles and tools for my trade. Again, I was not 100% sure that my business would be a success but I was willing to work hard and take that risk. BUT had the business not worked out for me, I could have lost many 1000's
I'm sure that many of Doug's clients here would agree, risk and trust go hand-in-hand, it has worked out for me and many others and I'm sure that if you invest in this EA and follow his instructions closely you will get your investment back and make some serious profits It not a lot of money to invest... but for me, the rewards have been much better that I could have ever expected.
If you want to make serious money you have to invest first......
Membre depuis Dec 23, 2013
posts 4
May 28, 2015 at 07:11
pivot pro looks better
Membre depuis Dec 23, 2013
posts 4
May 28, 2015 at 11:48
i like your view on things ..you have to take the risk . Well thats forex ,what i'm doing is simply trying to find out the real thing about a system. You see its not only people that praise their product or system a distraction at times from the truth , its also people that talk shit that is a distraction as well . All i'm doing is trying to filter the real good systems from the bogus ones.
May 29, 2015 at 07:51
Martin101 posted:
Here's a small piece of advice for anyone considering buying this EA.
If you are really serious about trading you must know that with any business you have to invest capital to get started. I started my business over 12 years ago I had to sign into a 5 year contract for the lease of the property I rented. I was not 100% sure that my business would work but I was willing to take that risk, I then had to buy stock, computers, vehicles and tools for my trade. Again, I was not 100% sure that my business would be a success but I was willing to work hard and take that risk. BUT had the business not worked out for me, I could have lost many 1000's
I'm sure that many of Doug's clients here would agree, risk and trust go hand-in-hand, it has worked out for me and many others and I'm sure that if you invest in this EA and follow his instructions closely you will get your investment back and make some serious profits It not a lot of money to invest... but for me, the rewards have been much better that I could have ever expected.
If you want to make serious money you have to invest first......
I glad you brought this up because this is the perfect example. I do feel as this program is a type of lease, which is the main reason I'm not loving it, because this is a day by day lease. The landlord can just come and say get up get out anytime it wants. I understand Doug doesn't want to give away his programming code, but there has to be a way he can give the EA with code encrypted and not needing him to authenticate each time we use it. Basically what I want is after I buy the EA to not have any involvement with Doug anymore if I don't need to and the EA is doing its thing with or without Doug. Is it possible or am I missing something?
May 29, 2015 at 07:51
Hello, @quickservicela! I agree with you 100%. Maybe VTP is just as advertised, but it's hard to know, so much dishonest dealings around forex. The main risk is not even the EA cost, but the capital you may lose if the account turns out to be bogus. Would be great to speak with some satisfiued VTP users by skype.
May 29, 2015 at 20:03
edwardopp posted:
Hello, @quickservicela! I agree with you 100%. Maybe VTP is just as advertised, but it's hard to know, so much dishonest dealings around forex. The main risk is not even the EA cost, but the capital you may lose if the account turns out to be bogus. Would be great to speak with some satisfiued VTP users by skype.
I had the same concerns at first as you so when I purchased the VTP EA I decided to run a test on a brokers demo trading account for a few weeks, just to be sure. I was glad to find that it worked out just as advertised and copied the same trade as seen on this site...
In response to 'narf' post: Remember that you only pay just one lifetime fee ($799) Also, as with all trade copier robots you have little control when trades are opened and closed but you do have control over your preferred risk & reward settings. Doug recommends not to change any other settings. However, you can manually open and close your own trades in the normal way if you wished.
Membre depuis Feb 03, 2015
posts 84
May 30, 2015 at 03:26
Edwardopp: Yes, there are dishonest people. But if you want to build trust with my system, test it on a DEMO account before going LIVE. Then you risk no investment to see trades are the same.
May 30, 2015 at 05:19
Hi all.. You guys may have good reasons to be skeptical with any kind of EAs or Forex Robots...Do some research and reviews before buying one.
I've myself have bought the VTP..& do my settings and let it running on small account.. Will gradually increase my investment by doing some low risk money management. It's not about being instant Millionaire..
This EA is only good if you copy Doug's trades. This EA requires you to be close if there is high impact news, which means you got to know when to close and open your charts on your VPS.. It may be kinda of risky if account are open during high impact news.. I've seen account blow up run on demo during the new...
I did have some issues with the support. As I've to wait for support reply for more than 24hrs to 2 days for them to reply.. Not sure how many support team they have, or Doug Price is working alone.. this is not the only EA he has in the market...
My advice, stop making unnecessary comments and too many 'IF's...If Doug Price wants to cheat the users that bought the EA copier, he may have to face the karma...
Those who wants to see my live account copier result, e-mail me [email protected] with the subject ' request for copy results'. or Skype wanadryan.. Will e-mail you the results of future trade copy..
I've myself have bought the VTP..& do my settings and let it running on small account.. Will gradually increase my investment by doing some low risk money management. It's not about being instant Millionaire..
This EA is only good if you copy Doug's trades. This EA requires you to be close if there is high impact news, which means you got to know when to close and open your charts on your VPS.. It may be kinda of risky if account are open during high impact news.. I've seen account blow up run on demo during the new...
I did have some issues with the support. As I've to wait for support reply for more than 24hrs to 2 days for them to reply.. Not sure how many support team they have, or Doug Price is working alone.. this is not the only EA he has in the market...
My advice, stop making unnecessary comments and too many 'IF's...If Doug Price wants to cheat the users that bought the EA copier, he may have to face the karma...
Those who wants to see my live account copier result, e-mail me [email protected] with the subject ' request for copy results'. or Skype wanadryan.. Will e-mail you the results of future trade copy..
May 30, 2015 at 08:42
Martin101,
I am in the same situation as to what you mentioned a couple posts ago regarding business and investment risks.
Investing this way: no payroll to pay, no material, no equipment, no advertising, etc.
No inventory to keep and no headaches or go through on a daily basis...
To all the negativity out there: go see your financial planners and tell them to output as much profit...
I am sure you and I can tell them all: if you cannot stand the heat, get out of the forex kitchen.
I am in the same situation as to what you mentioned a couple posts ago regarding business and investment risks.
Investing this way: no payroll to pay, no material, no equipment, no advertising, etc.
No inventory to keep and no headaches or go through on a daily basis...
To all the negativity out there: go see your financial planners and tell them to output as much profit...
I am sure you and I can tell them all: if you cannot stand the heat, get out of the forex kitchen.
May 30, 2015 at 10:50
Someone called us who shared our experience as 'defending dog'. Whatever it is, I don't mind, because I am making profit. Good product must be defended and worse product must be warned to public. Vortex is great product, so I share my experience, don't mind to be called as 'defending dog'. Thanks Doug. My friends are using your product now and they are happy.
Help the Poor
May 30, 2015 at 10:50
Pivot is another product which really maximizes our profit, the SL line will be moved accordingly to the profit automatically for hours or even day. Vortex & Pivot both works differently. Pivot bring great profit with small lots, bigger draw down compared to Vortex. Vortex is much safer but less profit. You can use Vortex with a bigger lots while Pivot we should set to much smaller lot compared to Vortex. It could have drawn down for days sometimes but at the end it will still bring you a very profitable trade. When they have entered to profit zone, Doug will safely push to SL line accordingly even pips by pips. For those phone with apps, your phone will keep notifying you that Doug has modified the SL from where to where. If you are not greedy, Pivots indeed bring bigger profit than Vortex.
Help the Poor
Membre depuis Feb 03, 2015
posts 84
May 30, 2015 at 14:50
Thank you everyone who's supporting me, I'm doing my best to make sure everyone does as well as my account, and unfortunately can't please everyone. I'm more than willing to help anyone who e-mails me if they are having issues.
May 30, 2015 at 20:31
seeyuhere posted:What minimum start-up investment should we expect with the Pivot?
Pivot is another product which really maximizes our profit, the SL line will be moved accordingly to the profit automatically for hours or even day. Vortex & Pivot both works differently. Pivot bring great profit with small lots, bigger draw down compared to Vortex. Vortex is much safer but less profit. You can use Vortex with a bigger lots while Pivot we should set to much smaller lot compared to Vortex. It could have drawn down for days sometimes but at the end it will still bring you a very profitable trade. When they have entered to profit zone, Doug will safely push to SL line accordingly even pips by pips. For those phone with apps, your phone will keep notifying you that Doug has modified the SL from where to where. If you are not greedy, Pivots indeed bring bigger profit than Vortex.
