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cryptopro posted:
Hey! Man :) I m Your Follower where were u till now* Your Strategy is world Best strategy consistently making profit in my account Please Dont Sell Your Strategy to anyone just provide Signals/Fund Management otherwise it wont Work soon Because Brokers will catch You

joe101180 posted:
What is the minimum deposit for following your signal?
could you just withdraw your money and leave the remaining $1000, so we can safely follow your account with $1000 without risking too much if there is any big drawdown coming.


Thanks

Professional4X posted:
Fx Scalper,

Stepping your trades into the pullbacks of the trend direction via 1 pip step distances with static lotsizes.
I use something very similar in strong trending conditions, it's a good method to use for automated systems as long as the instrument you are trading stays trending like that.

trend, stacking, trend, stacking, trend, stacking, etc etc etc, but all staying within the higher time frame trend is smart as long as you're still using a stoploss with a reasonable distance.

News events can cause a lot of problems though if you have too many stacked and the market reverses on you with a large number of tickets currently open. Be careful with that.

Are you working with an aggregate basket take profit percentage level for a take profit target?

Or do you use a more traditional PIPs distance take profit target?

Mathild84 posted:
😲....maybe you should change the name of your strategy to LOW RETURN....😁

Mathild84 posted:
😲....maybe you should change the name of your strategy to LOW RETURN....😁

fxsc1lper posted:
actually using a stoploss in grid/martingale/average could be very serious problem .. becoz in these type of MM if u hit SL , that mean u minimum loss 30-40 % of your profit in just one trade .. so to cover that loss u need 40-50 TP,s

fxsc1lper posted:
and if u lost one SL more u need more 40-50 TP,s ry to understand logic dont fouch on numbers .. average /martingale/grid is always considered huge risk /biggest risk in forex forever ..everyone knows that ....

fxsc1lper posted:
people who are using stoplosses , not losing money? just fact is they loss but slowly right ?if u back test world any strategy , any robot it has failed badly after a time .. and nobody know when that time should come .. so why not take huge risk where profit is also huge ???

fxsc1lper posted:
now about Risk

but my Question is is there any strategy exist which give huge profit or good profit with SL ? can u show me ? plz talk at forex any method and i will show bad /losses of that strategy ,any strategy any one from world ?

fxsc1lper posted:
is there any gurantee of brokers ? imagine u have 1000k usd account and broker said it is against the TOS of broker and banned u what can u do ? or broker run away ? and it should took many of months or years to recover ?

fxsc1lper posted:
i think u better know than me about global crisis .. any word or war or problem gives spikes ..so account can be washed any time or double ?

fxsc1lper posted:
brokers doesnt let want us to make money .. if yes then why banned arbitrage ? HFT strategies ? is there no risk ?
i had a simple scalping strategy robot , many people made huge money with that with in a month , with 0 risk . but 90 % brokers blocked that pattern why ?

Professional4X posted:

fxsc1lper posted:
actually using a stoploss in grid/martingale/average could be very serious problem .. becoz in these type of MM if u hit SL , that mean u minimum loss 30-40 % of your profit in just one trade .. so to cover that loss u need 40-50 TP,s

Absolutely incorrect.

Example:

Trade #1: EURUSD LONG 0.01 SL 50 TP 50

Let's say that the above trade hit the SL and closed out.
This gives you a -50 pips loss

Then we make a new trade using martingale which gives you the folliowing for your second trade.

Trade #2: EURUSD SHORT 0.02 SL 50 TP 26

Using twice the lotsizes you only need to hit 1/2 the TP range to break even.
If you add an additional pip to cover the commission and spread then you simply need to hit 26 pips to break even with a small profit on that trade.

Trading without a stoploss is extremely dangerous and unprofessional because it puts your investment capital at risk.

fxsc1lper posted:
and if u lost one SL more u need more 40-50 TP,s ry to understand logic dont fouch on numbers .. average /martingale/grid is always considered huge risk /biggest risk in forex forever ..everyone knows that ....

NO. Absolutely incorrect.

Using a aggregate value of your basket profit is a SMART thing to do, because when your aggregate basket is in profit, your losing trades are covered.

fxsc1lper posted:
people who are using stoplosses , not losing money? just fact is they loss but slowly right ?if u back test world any strategy , any robot it has failed badly after a time .. and nobody know when that time should come .. so why not take huge risk where profit is also huge ???

NO. Incorrect again.
A stoploss is EXACTLY that, it is a STOP LOSS. It closes out the trading ticket to prevent any additional losses on the bad trade.
Allowing a bad ticket to just keep incurring additional losses is extremely unprofessional and puts the entire investment capital at risk.

fxsc1lper posted:
now about Risk

but my Question is is there any strategy exist which give huge profit or good profit with SL ? can u show me ? plz talk at forex any method and i will show bad /losses of that strategy ,any strategy any one from world ?

Use aggregate TP levels closing out your bad trades when the good trades are covering them for breakeven.
Using martingale you only need to close out your winning ticket at just above 1/2 the pips for breakeven from the previous bad trade.

fxsc1lper posted:
is there any gurantee of brokers ? imagine u have 1000k usd account and broker said it is against the TOS of broker and banned u what can u do ? or broker run away ? and it should took many of months or years to recover ?

Diversify your investments across multiple brokers and multiple accounts.

fxsc1lper posted:
i think u better know than me about global crisis .. any word or war or problem gives spikes ..so account can be washed any time or double ?

Money management is vital to reduce risk.

fxsc1lper posted:
brokers doesnt let want us to make money .. if yes then why banned arbitrage ? HFT strategies ? is there no risk ?
i had a simple scalping strategy robot , many people made huge money with that with in a month , with 0 risk . but 90 % brokers blocked that pattern why ?

Please tell me why exactly they banned your scalping robot. Was it in violation of the terms of service?

What pattern did they block and why?

Professional4X posted:

fxsc1lper posted:
actually using a stoploss in grid/martingale/average could be very serious problem .. becoz in these type of MM if u hit SL , that mean u minimum loss 30-40 % of your profit in just one trade .. so to cover that loss u need 40-50 TP,s

Absolutely incorrect.

Example:

Trade #1: EURUSD LONG 0.01 SL 50 TP 50

Let's say that the above trade hit the SL and closed out.
This gives you a -50 pips loss


Then we make a new trade using martingale which gives you the folliowing for your second trade.

Trade #2: EURUSD SHORT 0.02 SL 50 TP 26

Using twice the lotsizes you only need to hit 1/2 the TP range to break even.
If you add an additional pip to cover the commission and spread then you simply need to hit 26 pips to break even with a small profit on that trade.

Trading without a stoploss is extremely dangerous and unprofessional because it puts your investment capital at risk.


***** haha really is it possible in forex world , that any strategy which for long life even for just 3 months hit only 2 martingale ?
if yes plz tell i will buy that strategy even if its cost is 10 million dollar :) becoz my 5 professional forex traders friends and me (spend more than 10 years to find only 2 level of martingale in any strategy ..becoz that mean multi millionaire in few months :)
becoz with out experience we used almost world all martingale ,ea and MM and paid robot much more videos articles , secerts
but martingale one day must be out of range and hit 17 level of lot multiplier :) ..some time 5 sometime 7 sometime 9 sometime 3 etc
but just 2 level of martingale should be world new king :) hehehe

fxsc1lper posted:
and if u lost one SL more u need more 40-50 TP,s ry to understand logic dont fouch on numbers .. average /martingale/grid is always considered huge risk /biggest risk in forex forever ..everyone knows that ....

NO. Absolutely incorrect.

Using a aggregate value of your basket profit is a SMART thing to do, because when your aggregate basket is in profit, your losing trades are covered.

********* haha .. look we are not here to talk about profit .. every one can talk on profit for years . and looks every dream is near soon to be completed :) .. talk on loss that is fact haha with 95 % traders :)..
now answer of your question ...imagine u was trading basket trading but ofcourse in basket trading base currency can be same or quoted currencies can be .. but not all. imagine u entered in EURNZD GBPNZD NZDUSD AUDNZD NZDCHF ( u can use any basket combo , EN was giving profit GN ws giving profit suddely NZDUSD due to USD news started to reverse and eat all profit , same with AUDNZD , AUDNZD started to make huge loss over the night becoz of AUD news ? basket trading is not a magic .. the pairs and market is same in basket trading heheh

fxsc1lper posted:
people who are using stoplosses , not losing money? just fact is they loss but slowly right ?if u back test world any strategy , any robot it has failed badly after a time .. and nobody know when that time should come .. so why not take huge risk where profit is also huge ???

NO. Incorrect again.
A stoploss is EXACTLY that, it is a STOP LOSS. It closes out the trading ticket to prevent any additional losses on the bad trade.
Allowing a bad ticket to just keep incurring additional losses is extremely unprofessional and puts the entire investment capital at risk.

********* i think ur quite new in forex . becoz u just focus on my bad english words. u didnt tried to understand the logic. what i wanted to say .. the problem is not SL use or not use .. if u entered in 10 trades and 6 Hit SL or 7 hit SL , or even 5 hit SL . what is benefit of then of SL ? u should trade whole year , if your strategy hit 5 sl and 5 tp . but after entering in 1000 trades and after one year ....what should be result .. u should be at BE ( break even no profit no loss ) :) that u want by investing your huge money at risk ?
and remember in this whole year market can crash too ? and stoploss can be requoted and u can face huge loss hahah

fxsc1lper posted:
now about Risk

but my Question is is there any strategy exist which give huge profit or good profit with SL ? can u show me ? plz talk at forex any method and i will show bad /losses of that strategy ,any strategy any one from world ?

Use aggregate TP levels closing out your bad trades when the good trades are covering them for breakeven.
Using martingale you only need to close out your winning ticket at just above 1/2 the pips for breakeven from the previous bad trade.


*******one answer of this question if u wanna understand the market main rule :) i made a profit TP 4 pips SL 4 Pips with martingale and put 10 million dollars and back test , and after 4 months account washed :) got it what i wanted to say ? understand? TP SL works when ur strategy is profitable :)

fxsc1lper posted:
is there any gurantee of brokers ? imagine u have 1000k usd account and broker said it is against the TOS of broker and banned u what can u do ? or broker run away ? and it should took many of months or years to recover ?

Diversify your investments across multiple brokers and multiple accounts.


********* around the world 15 liquidity providers .. around the world 350 forex brokers ..... around the world 10 major forex broker regulatory bodies ( among 250 countries . becoz every country has its regulatory body ) ../
u had invested total 100k , and invest 20k in each regulatory body ... imagine one of the country has ecnomoy crash .. u lost 20k ? at that time .. so ur in loss of 20 % of your equity ? what is solution ... till that ur profit was 5 % ? i meant was this system is not safe ..
u use multiple brokers or multiple regulatory authorities... and now a day it take only a hour :) to come down the economy :)

fxsc1lper posted:
i think u better know than me about global crisis .. any word or war or problem gives spikes ..so account can be washed any time or double ?

Money management is vital to reduce risk.

********if your strategy is losing .. some day market without any news moved against u for 300 pips, and u loss 50 % of account even with news :) what should money management will do ? u was taking risk of 5 % .. and ur strategy consistently 7 SL .. then what should u do ? how should u manage ? u will use martingale /lot multiplier to recover the loss ? but imagine .. next day market moved same and u lost 7 SL again with double lot ? these all are ture things and happen so many times with me with many forex traders , with my friends etc ...

fxsc1lper posted:
brokers doesnt let want us to make money .. if yes then why banned arbitrage ? HFT strategies ? is there no risk ?
i had a simple scalping strategy robot , many people made huge money with that with in a month , with 0 risk . but 90 % brokers blocked that pattern why ?

Please tell me why exactly they banned your scalping robot. Was it in violation of the terms of service?

What pattern did they block and why?

******sorry that is secret strategy i cant reveal to any one ... that is my privacy . dont mind hope to answer of all questions :)

fenicbay posted:

Professional4X posted:
I'm trying to have an honest and open discussion with you about trading because you are making a great profit, but it is very risky to trade like this.

oh really ? i dont think so I am his follower since 3 months and didnt ask any query but i am making good profit

Professional4X posted:

fenicbay posted:

Professional4X posted:
I'm trying to have an honest and open discussion with you about trading because you are making a great profit, but it is very risky to trade like this.

oh really ? i dont think so I am his follower since 3 months and didnt ask any query but i am making good profit

We're having a discussion on how to IMPROVE the strategy and make MORE profits while having less risk.

fxsc1lper posted:

Professional4X posted:

fxsc1lper posted:
actually using a stoploss in grid/martingale/average could be very serious problem .. becoz in these type of MM if u hit SL , that mean u minimum loss 30-40 % of your profit in just one trade .. so to cover that loss u need 40-50 TP,s

Absolutely incorrect.

Example:

Trade #1: EURUSD LONG 0.01 SL 50 TP 50

Let's say that the above trade hit the SL and closed out.
This gives you a -50 pips loss


Then we make a new trade using martingale which gives you the folliowing for your second trade.

Trade #2: EURUSD SHORT 0.02 SL 50 TP 26

Using twice the lotsizes you only need to hit 1/2 the TP range to break even.
If you add an additional pip to cover the commission and spread then you simply need to hit 26 pips to break even with a small profit on that trade.

Trading without a stoploss is extremely dangerous and unprofessional because it puts your investment capital at risk.


***** haha really is it possible in forex world , that any strategy which for long life even for just 3 months hit only 2 martingale ?
if yes plz tell i will buy that strategy even if its cost is 10 million dollar :) becoz my 5 professional forex traders friends and me (spend more than 10 years to find only 2 level of martingale in any strategy ..becoz that mean multi millionaire in few months :)
becoz with out experience we used almost world all martingale ,ea and MM and paid robot much more videos articles , secerts
but martingale one day must be out of range and hit 17 level of lot multiplier :) ..some time 5 sometime 7 sometime 9 sometime 3 etc
but just 2 level of martingale should be world new king :) hehehe

fxsc1lper posted:
and if u lost one SL more u need more 40-50 TP,s ry to understand logic dont fouch on numbers .. average /martingale/grid is always considered huge risk /biggest risk in forex forever ..everyone knows that ....

NO. Absolutely incorrect.

Using a aggregate value of your basket profit is a SMART thing to do, because when your aggregate basket is in profit, your losing trades are covered.

********* haha .. look we are not here to talk about profit .. every one can talk on profit for years . and looks every dream is near soon to be completed :) .. talk on loss that is fact haha with 95 % traders :)..
now answer of your question ...imagine u was trading basket trading but ofcourse in basket trading base currency can be same or quoted currencies can be .. but not all. imagine u entered in EURNZD GBPNZD NZDUSD AUDNZD NZDCHF ( u can use any basket combo , EN was giving profit GN ws giving profit suddely NZDUSD due to USD news started to reverse and eat all profit , same with AUDNZD , AUDNZD started to make huge loss over the night becoz of AUD news ? basket trading is not a magic .. the pairs and market is same in basket trading heheh

fxsc1lper posted:
people who are using stoplosses , not losing money? just fact is they loss but slowly right ?if u back test world any strategy , any robot it has failed badly after a time .. and nobody know when that time should come .. so why not take huge risk where profit is also huge ???

NO. Incorrect again.
A stoploss is EXACTLY that, it is a STOP LOSS. It closes out the trading ticket to prevent any additional losses on the bad trade.
Allowing a bad ticket to just keep incurring additional losses is extremely unprofessional and puts the entire investment capital at risk.

********* i think ur quite new in forex . becoz u just focus on my bad english words. u didnt tried to understand the logic. what i wanted to say .. the problem is not SL use or not use .. if u entered in 10 trades and 6 Hit SL or 7 hit SL , or even 5 hit SL . what is benefit of then of SL ? u should trade whole year , if your strategy hit 5 sl and 5 tp . but after entering in 1000 trades and after one year ....what should be result .. u should be at BE ( break even no profit no loss ) :) that u want by investing your huge money at risk ?
and remember in this whole year market can crash too ? and stoploss can be requoted and u can face huge loss hahah

fxsc1lper posted:
now about Risk

but my Question is is there any strategy exist which give huge profit or good profit with SL ? can u show me ? plz talk at forex any method and i will show bad /losses of that strategy ,any strategy any one from world ?

Use aggregate TP levels closing out your bad trades when the good trades are covering them for breakeven.
Using martingale you only need to close out your winning ticket at just above 1/2 the pips for breakeven from the previous bad trade.


*******one answer of this question if u wanna understand the market main rule :) i made a profit TP 4 pips SL 4 Pips with martingale and put 10 million dollars and back test , and after 4 months account washed :) got it what i wanted to say ? understand? TP SL works when ur strategy is profitable :)

fxsc1lper posted:
is there any gurantee of brokers ? imagine u have 1000k usd account and broker said it is against the TOS of broker and banned u what can u do ? or broker run away ? and it should took many of months or years to recover ?

Diversify your investments across multiple brokers and multiple accounts.


********* around the world 15 liquidity providers .. around the world 350 forex brokers ..... around the world 10 major forex broker regulatory bodies ( among 250 countries . becoz every country has its regulatory body ) ../
u had invested total 100k , and invest 20k in each regulatory body ... imagine one of the country has ecnomoy crash .. u lost 20k ? at that time .. so ur in loss of 20 % of your equity ? what is solution ... till that ur profit was 5 % ? i meant was this system is not safe ..
u use multiple brokers or multiple regulatory authorities... and now a day it take only a hour :) to come down the economy :)

fxsc1lper posted:
i think u better know than me about global crisis .. any word or war or problem gives spikes ..so account can be washed any time or double ?

Money management is vital to reduce risk.

********if your strategy is losing .. some day market without any news moved against u for 300 pips, and u loss 50 % of account even with news :) what should money management will do ? u was taking risk of 5 % .. and ur strategy consistently 7 SL .. then what should u do ? how should u manage ? u will use martingale /lot multiplier to recover the loss ? but imagine .. next day market moved same and u lost 7 SL again with double lot ? these all are ture things and happen so many times with me with many forex traders , with my friends etc ...

fxsc1lper posted:
brokers doesnt let want us to make money .. if yes then why banned arbitrage ? HFT strategies ? is there no risk ?
i had a simple scalping strategy robot , many people made huge money with that with in a month , with 0 risk . but 90 % brokers blocked that pattern why ?

Please tell me why exactly they banned your scalping robot. Was it in violation of the terms of service?

What pattern did they block and why?

******sorry that is secret strategy i cant reveal to any one ... that is my privacy . dont mind hope to answer of all questions :)