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Aug 02, 2010 at 11:20
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會員從Feb 16, 2010開始   1332帖子
Sep 11, 2010 at 13:02

fxlucky posted:
    
forexma posted:
    
fxlucky posted:
    
forexma posted:
    No, I know you've seen the 'performance' on FPA. What I doubt is you realise how stupid it looks.
Current gain in 9 days is 1,2% based on 10,4% risk/trade. Then the calculation is very easy(even a child in first grade could make it): 10,4/1,2=8,66*9 days = 78 days ===> you need 1 SL to wipe 78 days of profit with this pace of growth. It's ridiculous.

I do not think so...
funny to look at your personal trading account, your earnings growth.
there is not something that the student, any person, and without mathematics, will laugh for a long time...
I think it is a hundred times funnier.

Facts are facts and they're about to stay here for a very long time. The calculation is very simple and everybody can repeat it and have the same results as mine. Continue insulting me and laughing at my performance, I'm not the person who is wiping account and deleting them afterwards.
You must be very angry with me because I'm sabotaging the sales of your GREAT SKALPER(btw the correct word is scalper).

No, I'm not offended.
or anything personal.
I like the ads, whatever it may be.
from a normal person, or such as you.
know for what?

I doubt you're happy, with all the information I'm giving to the people nobody's gonna buy your crap.

Anyway, please prove this is not cents account. WE'RE WAITING.
"In trading, winning is frequently a question of luck, but losing is always a matter of skill."
會員從Feb 16, 2010開始   1332帖子
Sep 11, 2010 at 13:05

fxlucky posted:
    
fxlucky posted:
    
fxlucky posted:
    
forexma posted:
    And about my doubts that this account is not micro, please open your history so we could see the comment on deposit.


I understand you have one of the accounts trading advisor Smart?
Could you show the information about fees?
it you can find in the history of payments.
Tell kagda you got it?
the date of payment can I contact the author, and get the right information.
this in order that you personally would not hinder, I appreciate your time.
I do it's not difficult?


waiting for an answer to this question.



waiting for an answer to this question.


does not dissuade you. and answer my simple question.
and the question at issue, it is not a conversation.
is your regular attacks. and not something more.

WHAT IS YOUR QUESTION? DO I USE ADVISOR SMART??? IF THAT'S YOUR QUESTION MY ANSWER IS: NEVER HEARD ABOUT THIS ADVISOR
IF YOUR QUESTION IS OTHER AND I CAN'T UNDERSTAND YOUR BAD ENGLISH PLEASE TRY AGAIN AFTER FEW YEARS
"In trading, winning is frequently a question of luck, but losing is always a matter of skill."
會員從Feb 16, 2010開始   1332帖子
Sep 11, 2010 at 13:06
NOW PLEASE OPEN YOUR HISTORY AND PROVE YOUR ACCOUNT IS NOT IN CENTS!!!
"In trading, winning is frequently a question of luck, but losing is always a matter of skill."
會員從Jun 28, 2010開始   184帖子
Sep 11, 2010 at 13:34
until you answer my easy question.
I'm not going to perceive you as a normal person. while I think you are slightly out of mind.

I'm the author of its development, I appreciate the work, his and other people.
previous experience has shown me that basically, every other person who uses the trading account, the thief, who uses the labor of others, for free.
previous mine development, customers received as your friends, they are after the purchase, laid out on the forums, my work, for free download.

so that I had no doubt that you are a thief, as they are.
on this with you I talk, just as you are with me.
You must understand my meaning, and though some of that at the end of it for yourself to learn.

and their attacks, you hold, calm down, drink a good tea, and relax.
I understand your trade had exhausted much you ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> STABILITY - SYMPTOM OF SKILL! >>>>>>>>>>>>
會員從Jun 28, 2010開始   184帖子
Sep 11, 2010 at 13:39

forexma posted:
    NOW PLEASE OPEN YOUR HISTORY AND PROVE YOUR ACCOUNT IS NOT IN CENTS!!!



this point the robot, which is sold on my site.
Information on this account, history, and any other.
history and the investor's password, I give all my clients that they could verify their transactions with mine.

remember what I did not hide!

(When you already understand this?)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> STABILITY - SYMPTOM OF SKILL! >>>>>>>>>>>>
會員從Feb 16, 2010開始   1332帖子
Sep 11, 2010 at 13:43

fxlucky posted:
    until you answer my easy question.
I'm not going to perceive you as a normal person. while I think you are slightly out of mind.

I'm the author of its development, I appreciate the work, his and other people.
previous experience has shown me that basically, every other person who uses the trading account, the thief, who uses the labor of others, for free.
previous mine development, customers received as your friends, they are after the purchase, laid out on the forums, my work, for free download.

so that I had no doubt that you are a thief, as they are.
on this with you I talk, just as you are with me.
You must understand my meaning, and though some of that at the end of it for yourself to learn.

and their attacks, you hold, calm down, drink a good tea, and relax.
I understand your trade had exhausted much you ...

Please ask your question again, I honestly don't understand what you're talking about. What is your question, I'll answer every question I understand.

And please tell me where I'm wrong here?

<quote=forexma>
    A real test on 7,25$ account and internationally unknown, unregulated(maybe fake) broker.
And about the great EA:
17.07 - 10.09(1 month and 3 weeks)
Gain: 78,5% ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Trades: 16
Pips: 19(~2,6 pips/week)
Risk/Trade - the whole account
RISK REWARD RATIO:
Worst: 52:1
Best: 17:1

You can do more than that by paying people here for the waisted time to read your nonsense.

I am a logical thinker and these are the facts: If I were you and I've blown 1 account publicly as you did and I've almost margin called another account publicly, again, I WOULD HIDE FOREVER IN THE DEEPEST AND DARKEST FOREST ALL BLUSHED. But you have no dignity and with all your impudence you start to sell your crappy EA for the amazing sum of 699$. The test you're doing is so overleveraged that the account is about to blow every single day.

Here we can see the real nature of your 'beast':

<a href='https://www.myfxbook.com/files/forexma/vip21kk.JPG' target='_blank'><img src='https://www.myfxbook.com/files/forexma/vip21kk.JPG'/></a>

Period: 01.09 - 09.09
Risk per trade: 10,4%
Total profit in pips: 6
Total profit: 1,2%
RR: 52-17:1

Let's make the calculation more simple: 1 SL can wipe let's say.... ~75 days of profit. Am I still illogical thinker because I think I'm not. My counclusions are based purely on FACTS.


"In trading, winning is frequently a question of luck, but losing is always a matter of skill."
會員從Feb 16, 2010開始   1332帖子
Sep 11, 2010 at 13:46
And this is what people think of your broker: SCAM ALERT
https://www.forexpeacearmy.com/forex-forum/scam-alerts-folder/9391-fxstart-ru-scam.html
"In trading, winning is frequently a question of luck, but losing is always a matter of skill."
會員從Feb 16, 2010開始   1332帖子
Sep 11, 2010 at 13:47 (已編輯Sep 11, 2010 at 13:49)
Where am I wrong?

No, I know you've seen the 'performance' on FPA. What I doubt is you realise how stupid it looks.
Current gain in 9 days is 1,2% based on 10,4% risk/trade. Then the calculation is very easy(even a child in first grade could make it): 10,4/1,2=8,66*9 days = 78 days ===> you need 1 SL to wipe 78 days of profit with this pace of growth. It's ridiculous.
"In trading, winning is frequently a question of luck, but losing is always a matter of skill."
會員從Feb 16, 2010開始   1332帖子
Sep 11, 2010 at 14:19 (已編輯Sep 11, 2010 at 14:40)
For people who don't want to read 13 pages of nonsense, this is what Mr VipFX is very good at:

https://www.myfxbook.com/community/trading-systems/freesignal/46799,4

https://www.onix-trade.net/?act=monitoring_stat&xid=21674

<a href='https://www.myfxbook.com/files/forexma/vip21k_rp_s4.jpg' target='_blank'><img src='https://www.myfxbook.com/files/forexma/vip21k_rp_s4.jpg'/></a>



<a href='https://www.myfxbook.com/files/forexma/vip21kk.JPG' target='_blank'><img src='https://www.myfxbook.com/files/forexma/vip21kk.JPG'/></a>
Period: 01.09 - 09.09
Risk per trade: 10,4%
Total profit in pips: 6
Total profit: 1,2%
RR: 52-17:1

Let's make the calculation more simple: 1 SL can wipe let's say.... ~78 days of profit. Am I still illogical thinker because I think I'm not. My counclusions are based purely on FACTS. Current gain in 9 days is 1,2% based on 10,4% risk/trade. Then the calculation is very easy(even a child in first grade could make it): 10,4/1,2=8,66*9 days = 78 days ===> you need 1 SL to wipe 78 days of profit with this pace of growth. It's ridiculous.


This is the review of his internationally unknown broker(SCAM): https://www.forexpeacearmy.com/forex-forum/scam-alerts-folder/9391-fxstart-ru-scam.html

Don't trust this SCAMMER and don't buy his CRAPPY EA he's selling for 699$ - IT WILL SOONER OR LATER KILL YOUR ACCOUNT.

Dear VipFX,
every time you avoid to answer a question or you insult me again I'll post the same. Facts are facts and they're very illustrative what a GREAT TRADER YOU'RE.

附件:

"In trading, winning is frequently a question of luck, but losing is always a matter of skill."
會員從Jun 28, 2010開始   184帖子
Sep 11, 2010 at 21:10 (已編輯Sep 11, 2010 at 21:12)
Thief SOLOR (Mr birdbrain)

I've done everything you asked for.

You could answer the questions that I asked you to give an answer?

Or you like a thief, there is nothing to say?

You can do something?
(Eg: trading the currency market, communicate normally, and so on.)

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> STABILITY - SYMPTOM OF SKILL! >>>>>>>>>>>>
會員從Jun 28, 2010開始   184帖子
Sep 11, 2010 at 21:34 (已編輯Sep 11, 2010 at 21:36)
forexma posted:
    For people who don't want to read 13 pages of nonsense, this is what Mr VipFX is very good at:

https://www.myfxbook.com/community/trading-systems/freesignal/46799,4

https://www.onix-trade.net/?act=monitoring_stat&xid=21674

<a href='https://www.myfxbook.com/files/forexma/vip21k_rp_s4.jpg' target='_blank'><img src='https://www.myfxbook.com/files/forexma/vip21k_rp_s4.jpg'/></a>



<a href='https://www.myfxbook.com/files/forexma/vip21kk.JPG' target='_blank'><img src='https://www.myfxbook.com/files/forexma/vip21kk.JPG'/></a>
Period: 01.09 - 09.09
Risk per trade: 10,4%
Total profit in pips: 6
Total profit: 1,2%
RR: 52-17:1

Let's make the calculation more simple: 1 SL can wipe let's say.... ~78 days of profit. Am I still illogical thinker because I think I'm not. My counclusions are based purely on FACTS. Current gain in 9 days is 1,2% based on 10,4% risk/trade. Then the calculation is very easy(even a child in first grade could make it): 10,4/1,2=8,66*9 days = 78 days ===> you need 1 SL to wipe 78 days of profit with this pace of growth. It's ridiculous.


This is the review of his internationally unknown broker(SCAM): https://www.forexpeacearmy.com/forex-forum/scam-alerts-folder/9391-fxstart-ru-scam.html

Don't trust this SCAMMER and don't buy his CRAPPY EA he's selling for 699$ - IT WILL SOONER OR LATER KILL YOUR ACCOUNT.

Dear VipFX,
every time you avoid to answer a question or you insult me again I'll post the same. Facts are facts and they're very illustrative what a GREAT TRADER YOU'RE.







MR Birdbrain. (SOLOR)

YOU at least sometimes thinking.
THAT YOU pointing to picture, it was my HAND trade and, in this forum MY DEVELOPMENT OF EA.
I made a mistake and SCORE suffered after that.
 I have it before a full confession. If you do not yet realized, after I tell you about it 10 times said.
 To another account LOSS, blocking the profits, and in the total, a good profit.
I repeat my strategy profitable.
FOR SALE FOR HER, I HAVE A 4 are equal amount of the bill that would make a profit, AFTER FORCE majeure.
SCORE ONE FOR my mistake was lost, then I FOR A FRIEND TO WORK 400%.
WHAT YOU ONCE AGAIN trying to tell me to blacken in something? '
FOR THAT THAT WOULD BE NO SENSE HOW TO UNDERSTAND MY HAND trading strategy, it was necessary to see it, you silly.
Nurse'd call, she would explain everything to you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> STABILITY - SYMPTOM OF SKILL! >>>>>>>>>>>>
會員從Jun 28, 2010開始   184帖子
Sep 11, 2010 at 21:38 (已編輯Sep 11, 2010 at 21:55)
forexma posted:
    
fxlucky posted:
    
fxlucky posted:
    
fxlucky posted:
    
forexma posted:
    And about my doubts that this account is not micro, please open your history so we could see the comment on deposit.

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/forexma/live-account/19764

I understand you have one of the accounts trading advisor Smart?
Could you show the information about fees?
it you can find in the history of payments.
Tell kagda you got it?
the date of payment can I contact the author, and get the right information.
this in order that you personally would not hinder, I appreciate your time.
I do it's not difficult?


waiting for an answer to this question.



waiting for an answer to this question.


does not dissuade you. and answer my simple question.
and the question at issue, it is not a conversation.
is your regular attacks. and not something more.

WHAT IS YOUR QUESTION? DO I USE ADVISOR SMART??? IF THAT'S YOUR QUESTION MY ANSWER IS: NEVER HEARD ABOUT THIS ADVISOR
IF YOUR QUESTION IS OTHER AND I CAN'T UNDERSTAND YOUR BAD ENGLISH PLEASE TRY AGAIN AFTER FEW YEARS


But YOUR ACCOUNT, YOU Wiseacre and a thief.


<a href='https://www.myfxbook.com/files/fxlucky/123.jpg' target='_blank'><img src='https://www.myfxbook.com/files/fxlucky/123.jpg'/></a>


https://www.myfxbook.com/members/forexma/live-account/19764

附件:

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會員從Jun 28, 2010開始   184帖子
Sep 11, 2010 at 21:42 (已編輯Sep 11, 2010 at 21:52)
A BROKER YOUR SECRET AGENT?
You did under lock and key are held to be your investment capital has not picked up???


Why, at the bottom can be seen even YOUR SKILLS 😁😁😁

YOU ARE SUPER TRADER, bravo!!! 😁

<a href='https://www.myfxbook.com/files/fxlucky/124.jpg' target='_blank'><img src='https://www.myfxbook.com/files/fxlucky/124.jpg'/></a>




https://www.myfxbook.com/members/forexma/live-account/19764

附件:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> STABILITY - SYMPTOM OF SKILL! >>>>>>>>>>>>
會員從Jun 28, 2010開始   184帖子
Sep 11, 2010 at 21:48 (已編輯Sep 11, 2010 at 21:51)
Dear SOLOR (forexma),

YOU CAN NOW You Can answer all my questions?
Or do you think it is still something Attach, to his PUSTYP MESSAGE.
Remember that ADD another page on my forum, and people do not have time to read this, your whole TUPIZM THAT YOU ARE HERE tell me?
I think it WILL ALL laziness Reload And I realized how silly you are, and the fact that you are a thief?
A?
SOLOR, YES you think so? )))



YOU ME PLEASE histories, and I will.
Can you similarly will do?
OTKROY Broker, and history.

Meaning it to you hide it?
From whom is the secret?

Yes, this I came to you, PLEASE, SOLOR.
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會員從Feb 16, 2010開始   1332帖子
Sep 11, 2010 at 23:24 (已編輯Sep 11, 2010 at 23:26)
OMG,
for a 54-th time I tell you my trading, my personality and my broker are not your concern because I don't sell or offer any services or EAs. If I was to manage accounts, sell signals or EAs I would've opened every information but I'm not so I don't have to. Anyway I keep my drawdown as low as possible and my less than 4% DD is more than acceptable compared to 1 wiped and 1 almost margin called accounts you had. About the thief accusation, I really don't have any idea what exactly are you talking about, what did I steal and from whom?

I think people have seen enough facts I showed here and saw enough nonsense you've written. You lack the ability to accept the truth and the facts or to defend yourself honestly and in the propper manner. Your best tactics is: attack is the best defence.
You have proven that your FREE SIGNALS could wipe(twice) the follower's accounts in just few days but you don't give up. I've shown many facts and calculations showing your great EA is nothing more than air under pressure ready to explode every single minute. Facts are facts and no matter how much you insult me you can't change the facts. Calling me stupid in every post is just showing how primitive your thinking is. I won't stop here and I'll keep following every your step to protect people form falling into your traps.

Just a simple thought: if your strategies and EAs are so great why you need to sell? Why, why, why?
It's been said: don't judge people by what they say but by what they do. If you have profitable EA there's no need to sell it, right?






"In trading, winning is frequently a question of luck, but losing is always a matter of skill."
會員從Jun 28, 2010開始   184帖子
Sep 11, 2010 at 23:53 (已編輯Sep 12, 2010 at 00:00)
forexma posted:
    OMG,
for a 54-th time I tell you my trading, my personality and my broker are not your concern because I don't sell or offer any services or EAs. If I was to manage accounts, sell signals or EAs I would've opened every information but I'm not so I don't have to. Anyway I keep my drawdown as low as possible and my less than 4% DD is more than acceptable compared to 1 wiped and 1 almost margin called accounts you had. About the thief accusation, I really don't have any idea what exactly are you talking about, what did I steal and from whom?

I think people have seen enough facts I showed here and saw enough nonsense you've written. You lack the ability to accept the truth and the facts or to defend yourself honestly and in the propper manner. Your best tactics is: attack is the best defence.
You have proven that your FREE SIGNALS could wipe(twice) the follower's accounts in just few days but you don't give up. I've shown many facts and calculations showing your great EA is nothing more than air under pressure ready to explode every single minute. Facts are facts and no matter how much you insult me you can't change the facts. Calling me stupid in every post is just showing how primitive your thinking is. I won't stop here and I'll keep following every your step to protect people form falling into your traps.

Just a simple thought: if your strategies and EAs are so great why you need to sell? Why, why, why?
It's been said: don't judge people by what they say but by what they do. If you have profitable EA there's no need to sell it, right?







SOLOR,

Seagull You have not answered a single one of my questions.
CAN YOU HELP NEEDED IN THIS??


Well, yes of course I do And he knew that you can not answer clearly to my questions.
MY ACCOUNT MEANS apply to you, but what I asked you to do the same as I do for you, At your request, you can not.
I YOU nor what should not.
VJ Full info I charge my customers for everything they ask, YOU DO NOT RELATE TO THIS INFORMATION, because THAT YOU ARE NOT MY CLIENT.
And God forbid that I did not have such stupid clients like you. )))

YES SOLOR, I AGREE THAT YOUR DD LOW, BUT YOUR PROFIT MORE BELOW)))

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/forexma/live-account/19764
<a href='https://www.myfxbook.com/files/fxlucky/123_Ws.jpg' target='_blank'><img src='https://www.myfxbook.com/files/fxlucky/123_Ws.jpg'/></a>
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/forexma/live-account/19764

Same LOW as yourself!
You are a thief, NOT fortunate, an upstart, and stupid!

Good luck in advertising, SOLOR! )))

附件:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> STABILITY - SYMPTOM OF SKILL! >>>>>>>>>>>>
會員從May 01, 2010開始   272帖子
Sep 12, 2010 at 00:39
Maybe you should give him your EA for free, let him run it on a live account so you can both be right?

Gil
Be Open, honest and ethical and all the $$$ you want will come. (hint hint)
會員從Jun 28, 2010開始   184帖子
Sep 12, 2010 at 00:54 (已編輯Sep 12, 2010 at 00:58)
bluemele posted:
    Maybe you should give him your EA for free, let him run it on a live account so you can both be right?

Gil


honestly, I probably would have given it to EA, for all his efforts. )))
at least, in order that he could calm down.
but as all can see, he had overdone it in their statements. 😁
(I know what it ends. Give today, and tomorrow take on all the forex forums.)


(I am sorry for my english)
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會員從May 01, 2010開始   272帖子
Sep 12, 2010 at 03:08
Don't apologize for your English. :) Mine sucks and it is my native language.

Might as well still give it to him, and see if he will run it. I have found that your biggest critics can turn into your greatest allies if you work towards a common goal.

I doubt he has the motivation to sell your EA out from under you. :)

At least then, you would both be making more certain statements. Just trying to arbitrate. None of my business really and enjoying the sideshow.

Gil
Be Open, honest and ethical and all the $$$ you want will come. (hint hint)
會員從Feb 16, 2010開始   1332帖子
Sep 12, 2010 at 06:40 (已編輯Sep 12, 2010 at 06:43)
Thanks for the idea Gil but I wouldn't touch this EA even if I was paid to use it.

Dear VipFX,
Regarding your request to open my information for you, I 55 times explained you why I won't do it and it's not because I have to be ashamed of my broker or history, it's just that I don't have to.
Regarding the other questions I really need you to ask them again because honestly I cannot understand 80% of what you've written. Which are the question I didn't answer?

REGARDING YOUR CRITICISM ABOUT MY PERFORMANCE I'LL EXPLAIN ONCE. I'M NOT A TRADER FROM YESTERDAY AND THIS AIN'T MY FIRST LIVE ACCOUNT. WHAT I'VE LEARNED FROM MY EXPERIENCE IS WHEN YOU KNOW YOU HAVE BAD CARDS YOU STAY LOW. WHEN YOU KNOW YOU'RE STRONG YOU ATTACK. MY STRATEGY(EA) IS NOT FROM YESTERDAY OR FROM FEW MONTHS - IT WORKED MANY YEARS BEFORE BUT LAST HALF AN YEAR IT'S PERFORMANCE AIN'T SO GOOD SO I STAY LOW AND TRADE SMALL LOTS TILL I SEE IT'S WORKING FINE AGAIN AND I KNOW IT WILL BECAUSE I'VE MADE IT MYSELF. UNLUCKILY THIS BAD PERIOD FOR MY EA COINCIDES WTIH THE CHANGE OF THE BROKER.

FOREX IS LIKE A WAR, YOU DON'T HAVE TO WIN EVERY BATTLE IN ORDER TO WIN THE WAR. I'M NOT IN A HURRY. I LEARNED THAT THE 1-ST MOST IMPORTANT RULE IN FOREX(IN LIFE AS WELL) IS TO LEARN TO LOSE(NO LOSS STRATEGIES ARE THE FASTEST WAY TO HELL), THE 2-ND MOST IMPORTANT RULE IS TO PROTECT THE INITIAL CAPITAL.
FOREX FOR IS ABOUT CONSISTENCY. I HAVEN'T BLOWN AN ACCOUNT SINCE 2005.

"In trading, winning is frequently a question of luck, but losing is always a matter of skill."
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