Wolfe Wave Forex Robot (By iticsoftware)
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Wolfe Wave Forex Robot Discussion
Member Since Jan 10, 2012
77 posts
May 16, 2012 at 12:55
(edited May 16, 2012 at 13:04)
Here is another screenshot on the EU. It has been buying in the full downtrend and just by pure luck has been able to close trade baskets until the downtrend continue. Stoplosses don't exist. the SL are continually moving downwards as new position levels are opened so they don't really have any useful value. Trade baskets have been 9 levels deep this far.
If it is trading according to wolfe waves then it seems strange that it is maintaining long pos during the full downmove.
This is a demo account trading 0.1 lots which is circa 3.3 times the size of vendors account. The last basket was 6 total lots with a max open drawdown of 4000 USD.. So according to this vendor should have shown a drawdown of 4000 / 3.3 = 1200 just for the EU pair. And it never showed.. strange.. 🙄
Trading this live takes stomach or a very little position size not to risk margin call / blow out. You will IMO need at least a leverage of 200 trading this in same proportions as vendors account here.
If it is trading according to wolfe waves then it seems strange that it is maintaining long pos during the full downmove.
This is a demo account trading 0.1 lots which is circa 3.3 times the size of vendors account. The last basket was 6 total lots with a max open drawdown of 4000 USD.. So according to this vendor should have shown a drawdown of 4000 / 3.3 = 1200 just for the EU pair. And it never showed.. strange.. 🙄
Trading this live takes stomach or a very little position size not to risk margin call / blow out. You will IMO need at least a leverage of 200 trading this in same proportions as vendors account here.
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Member Since May 10, 2012
8 posts
May 16, 2012 at 16:03
Anchorpoint,
You are of course right, in a martingale or variation thereof stop losses are purely notional, they don't really exist. An earlier poster on here said he had done his analysis and this EA was alright as far as he was concerned. I am afraid he showed his naivety, lack of experience with martingale and his general ignorance! (Sorry, just please wake up.) Trading strategies such is this do not submit to conventional analysis. They can pay off in the short term as we are seeing, but in the end................ As you say a draw down will end without disaster as long as you are lucky lucky lucky..............that's gambling. At least in a casino you don't kid yourself.
I have been amazed that Borys or his developer man have been brave enough to post some charts. They are so clearly not Wolfe Wave, just like the one you posted, that he must have been trained in the BIG LIE by Goebbels (certainly not by Bill Wolfe). Say it often enough and people will start to believe it.
Just my little joke Borys, but expecting to be blocked now! At least you have not had any money off me.
You are of course right, in a martingale or variation thereof stop losses are purely notional, they don't really exist. An earlier poster on here said he had done his analysis and this EA was alright as far as he was concerned. I am afraid he showed his naivety, lack of experience with martingale and his general ignorance! (Sorry, just please wake up.) Trading strategies such is this do not submit to conventional analysis. They can pay off in the short term as we are seeing, but in the end................ As you say a draw down will end without disaster as long as you are lucky lucky lucky..............that's gambling. At least in a casino you don't kid yourself.
I have been amazed that Borys or his developer man have been brave enough to post some charts. They are so clearly not Wolfe Wave, just like the one you posted, that he must have been trained in the BIG LIE by Goebbels (certainly not by Bill Wolfe). Say it often enough and people will start to believe it.
Just my little joke Borys, but expecting to be blocked now! At least you have not had any money off me.
Member Since May 06, 2010
121 posts
May 18, 2012 at 02:22
Maximal acceptable drawdown will be 35%. If this value will be reached, we will stop to invest in WW H1 strategy, H4 timeframe will be used to trade and to reduce strong trends effect.
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May 18, 2012 at 04:09
Sorry to say Borys 35% DD is way to high for anyone. maybe you should have your programmer force your EA to do the oppsite
this way it seems your EA would be trading the trend on every pair its trading your aganist the trend if it will do the oppsite you should make money.
this way it seems your EA would be trading the trend on every pair its trading your aganist the trend if it will do the oppsite you should make money.
When Investing patients will be the deciding factor.
Member Since May 06, 2010
121 posts
May 18, 2012 at 21:15
We have reduced RiskRatio on our account.
Previous RiskRatio was 0.3, new RiskRatio is 0.2.
The markets are nervous and the volatility is too high.
Previous RiskRatio was 0.3, new RiskRatio is 0.2.
The markets are nervous and the volatility is too high.
BJF Trading Group
May 23, 2012 at 02:10
Strong trending markets and high volatility are the best times to be trading you have been holding a large DD for almost two weeks now.
Its is apparent in this case that you do not have any idea or formal knowledge of investing, trading in any type of financial market.
For example risk ratio should not be described in the form of lot sizing (0.3 - 0.2)... You should always know the equity at risk before a set of trades are placed or if only 1 stand alone trade is placed..
Borys you should always know the exact dollar amount that is at risk before an order is placed.
So please get a grip go back to the drawing board and start over and stop trying to pull hard earned dollars out of peoples pockets
Wolfe Wave lose all your money at some point and time EA.😑😭
Its is apparent in this case that you do not have any idea or formal knowledge of investing, trading in any type of financial market.
For example risk ratio should not be described in the form of lot sizing (0.3 - 0.2)... You should always know the equity at risk before a set of trades are placed or if only 1 stand alone trade is placed..
Borys you should always know the exact dollar amount that is at risk before an order is placed.
So please get a grip go back to the drawing board and start over and stop trying to pull hard earned dollars out of peoples pockets
Wolfe Wave lose all your money at some point and time EA.😑😭
When Investing patients will be the deciding factor.
May 23, 2012 at 08:53
Well GBP/USD is starting to rotate down again in the trend and nervous market as you would say. by by 35% DD
Sorry I keep posting but since you sent me an e-mail. BJF-trading group has been e-mailing me 3-4 times a week
I never signed up with any mailing list with Borys Fesenko or BJF-trading group
Sorry I keep posting but since you sent me an e-mail. BJF-trading group has been e-mailing me 3-4 times a week
I never signed up with any mailing list with Borys Fesenko or BJF-trading group
When Investing patients will be the deciding factor.
May 25, 2012 at 07:27
Hi,
i agree with Forex_Swing_Trader and SandyW, the day will come sooner or later when your account will be wiped out!!!
i`m not an expierenced trader and i traded a martingale because it seems good to pull your breakeven with you, but if the there is no retracement for a long time you will see how your loss will increase very very quickly and i was a few times close to a heart attack when i watched how my equity get smaller and smaller, so i´m lucky that i pushed the button the right time and not lost all!!!!
its all math and calculation and than everybody can see that its only working for a while and than BOOM and long faces!!!
i post an excel file here that may help a little bit to understand the risk, everybod can play along with that file and maybe find the perfect risk rathio to the account value, i didn`t!!!! 😞
So, i have one question in my own case, can someone here provide or give me an advice where i can find a very safe robot that makes about 5-7% a month!!!
Thanks ahead
Happy and successful trading
i agree with Forex_Swing_Trader and SandyW, the day will come sooner or later when your account will be wiped out!!!
i`m not an expierenced trader and i traded a martingale because it seems good to pull your breakeven with you, but if the there is no retracement for a long time you will see how your loss will increase very very quickly and i was a few times close to a heart attack when i watched how my equity get smaller and smaller, so i´m lucky that i pushed the button the right time and not lost all!!!!
its all math and calculation and than everybody can see that its only working for a while and than BOOM and long faces!!!
i post an excel file here that may help a little bit to understand the risk, everybod can play along with that file and maybe find the perfect risk rathio to the account value, i didn`t!!!! 😞
So, i have one question in my own case, can someone here provide or give me an advice where i can find a very safe robot that makes about 5-7% a month!!!
Thanks ahead
Happy and successful trading
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Member Since May 10, 2012
8 posts
May 30, 2012 at 14:27
Is there anyone who bought this system actually trading with it?
If so could you let us know:
a. What you now think about your decision to buy, and was the marketing misleading
b. What results you have had so far
c. The adequacy of the User Guide
d. Your results so far
e. Real or Demo
If so could you let us know:
a. What you now think about your decision to buy, and was the marketing misleading
b. What results you have had so far
c. The adequacy of the User Guide
d. Your results so far
e. Real or Demo
Member Since Jan 10, 2012
77 posts
May 30, 2012 at 18:34
(edited May 30, 2012 at 18:36)
And then the account blew as could have been expected in this market
Member Since May 08, 2012
6 posts
May 31, 2012 at 06:56
GBPUSD daily candle is about 200 pips. Wow! The market is very nervous.
Don't look for Holy Grails.
Member Since May 10, 2012
8 posts
May 31, 2012 at 12:47
This EA is now dead in the water. Anyone still trading it would be a total fool to continue. I refer anyone still reading this blog to posts by others who gave due warning, specifically SandyW who went to great lengths to explain and got blocked for his trouble by Borys who was unable to counter the points he made. And I myself too gave due warning.
Member Since Sep 04, 2009
879 posts
May 31, 2012 at 13:10
pc8multifx posted:
Everybody can see in the trade history IT IS Martingale !
my early warning...
Member Since Jan 10, 2012
77 posts
Jun 01, 2012 at 09:47
KABOOOM!
Member Since May 10, 2012
8 posts
Jun 01, 2012 at 18:35
Anchorpoint posted:
KABOOOM!
Your thoughts Borys, please?
Member Since May 06, 2010
121 posts
Jun 02, 2012 at 10:40
Unfortunately, political and economic uncertainty in Europe broke our plans to gradually enter
the summer market without a loss and maintaining profit with known price ranges and low volatility.
Strong movement on GBPUSD pair in last 2 weeks without any sufficient retreats was unacceptable for WW strategy.
Our expert can make the profit in sideways markets, strong trends can cause sufficient drawdowns.
We are going to wait for sideway market with reduced market volatility, then try to trade WW strategy on H4 timeframe.
Strong trends on H4 timeframe are less dangerous because distance between orders is great than on H1 timeframe (proportional to H4 average candle size).
the summer market without a loss and maintaining profit with known price ranges and low volatility.
Strong movement on GBPUSD pair in last 2 weeks without any sufficient retreats was unacceptable for WW strategy.
Our expert can make the profit in sideways markets, strong trends can cause sufficient drawdowns.
We are going to wait for sideway market with reduced market volatility, then try to trade WW strategy on H4 timeframe.
Strong trends on H4 timeframe are less dangerous because distance between orders is great than on H1 timeframe (proportional to H4 average candle size).
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