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Martin_King posted:

tilenmlakar posted:

Martin_King posted:
And regarding regulation, found here a good article.

Hope it may be useful to those traders, who think that they are safe with regulated broker.

'There have been several recent posts with either the thread's OP or other readers falsely assuming that a company mentioning that they are 'registered', 'regulated', et. al. by St Vincent and the Grenadines Financial Services Authority (SVG FSA or SVGFSA) implies some regulatory safeguards. So this article is to explain quite bluntly that SVG FSA has not and currently does not provide any regulation for forex, binary options, or crypto-currency service providers. This includes brokers, signal providers, and technology providers.

Just because there is no regulation, does not necessarily prevent a company from offering those services. It depends on the region. It just means that if there is no no regulatory oversight, then there is no recourse via that region's regulatory authority should a transaction turn out to have adverse outcome. So basically it is no different than having a private agreement between you and the company. If you are ok with that, then caveat emptor my dear reader.

My understanding of financial markets (particularly off-exchange markets) is that most regions do have some regulatory oversight. This can include:
mandatory registration into a regulatory database,
minimum capital requirements,
post trade statistics reporting,
segregation of client funds from other firm assets,
fiduciary responsibility to honor deposits/withdrawals timely,
electronic surveillance of order flow,
other rules deemed necessary to protect the larger public.

These rules are put in place mainly due to the systemic risk that can spread to the larger society should large losses or loss of confidence occur in certain capital markets.

Another important note. There are other ways that service providers use 'regulation' to try to trick people into thinking their services are more credible. So even the regulated are often fooled as they often only use very basic metrics to judge a broker's performance (spreads, leverage) and overlook other aspects of evaluating a broker's 'true' business model. Those details are for another article. In the mean time, you can read this report on Prime of Prime service evaluation to get a basic idea of how the different brokerage Tiers work.

With that said, I will quote/attach the proof directly from the horses mouth (SVG FSA and the Financial Intelligence Unit--FIU):

[[2019 March 29]...The FSA does not issue any licenses to carry on the business of FOREX Trading or Brokerage or Binary Options Trading nor does the FSA “Regulate, Monitor, Supervise or License” International Business Companies (IBCs) which engage in such activities.

IBCs incorporated in St. Vincent and the Grenadines are authorized to engage in any business activity without approval from the FSA, except where the proposed business activity relates to banking, insurance or mutual fund businesses. Banking, insurance and mutual fund businesses are licensed activities. FOREX or Brokers Trading licenses are not issued by any authority in St. Vincent and the Grenadines....
[2019 June 15]...The Authorities in St. Vincent and the Grenadines are aware of the recent growing international trend of Forex Trading and Cryptocurrency. It is advised however, that there is no regulation in place for Foreign Exchange (Forex) Trading and Cryptocurrency offerings in St. Vincent and the Grenadines. Furthermore, no Forex Trading or Cryptocurrency licenses are issued in St. Vincent and the Grenadines. These are speculative investments with considerable risks to the investor.

Members of the public are urged to exercise caution before engaging in any Forex Trading activities or accepting Cryptocurrency offerings....'


Please, use this link to read the original article https://www.forexpeacearmy.com/community/threads/regulators-svg-fsa-does-not-regulate-fx-binary-options-or-cryptocurrencies.63298/

Hi,

Just read this article but didn't found an answer for the question I have.

Does the regulation means that the government will compensate my money, deposited to regulated broker, if it don't allow to withdraw it? Or how it works in general?

Hi to all,

just want to clarify a little what regulation means.

Lets take FCA regulation as an example.

The Financial Conduct Authority (FCA) is the conduct regulator for financial services firms and financial markets in the UK.

The FCA, as any other regulator, DO NOT INVESTIGATE INDIVIDUAL COMPLAINTS, but the financial firms they regulate must have a procedure in place for resolving disputes with their customers. These firms must also respond to you within set deadlines.

So, if the client is unhappy with a financial product or service of the broker regulated by FCA, the FCA recommends the next steps:

Step 1: Contact the firm (broker) directly
Step 2: Make the complaint yourself directly to a firm
Step 3: Contact the Financial Ombudsman Service
Step 4: Take the matter to court

You can use this link to check more about this issue: https://www.fca.org.uk/consumers/how-complain


And regarding compensation from the FCA, the client can be entitled to compensation ONLY IF YOU ARE OWED MONEY BY A FINANCIAL FIRM (IN OUR CASE IT'S A FX BROKER) THAT GOES BUST.

As per the FCA rules, the Financial Services Compensation Scheme (FSCS) WILL NOT PAY compensation to a client when a firm (Broker) is still trading and may have the means to pay any claims made against it.

You can check the following link to the FCA official website to read more about it: https://www.fca.org.uk/consumers/claim-compensation-firm-fails

As you can see here, it's not so easy (and in some cases almost impossible) to get compensation from the FCA if you are unhappy with a financial product or service of the regulated broker.

togr posted:

Martin_King posted:
I'm not a technical specialist, but as I know it's impossible to place trading results to MT4 history.
I meant that trades are been performed directly with banks and LPs and are reflected on MT4 accounts of every user connected to the system.

When you trade with mt4 you can't chose where is the trade executed at which bank or other liquidity provider.

togr posted:

So where are all those satisfied clients of you? Why nobody drops by and show his great results?

xoldalin posted:

Martin_King posted:
Hi to all,

just want to clarify a little what regulation means.

Lets take FCA regulation as an example.

The Financial Conduct Authority (FCA) is the conduct regulator for financial services firms and financial markets in the UK.

The FCA, as any other regulator, DO NOT INVESTIGATE INDIVIDUAL COMPLAINTS, but the financial firms they regulate must have a procedure in place for resolving disputes with their customers. These firms must also respond to you within set deadlines.

So, if the client is unhappy with a financial product or service of the broker regulated by FCA, the FCA recommends the next steps:

Step 1: Contact the firm (broker) directly
Step 2: Make the complaint yourself directly to a firm
Step 3: Contact the Financial Ombudsman Service
Step 4: Take the matter to court

You can use this link to check more about this issue: https://www.fca.org.uk/consumers/how-complain


And regarding compensation from the FCA, the client can be entitled to compensation ONLY IF YOU ARE OWED MONEY BY A FINANCIAL FIRM (IN OUR CASE IT'S A FX BROKER) THAT GOES BUST.

As per the FCA rules, the Financial Services Compensation Scheme (FSCS) WILL NOT PAY compensation to a client when a firm (Broker) is still trading and may have the means to pay any claims made against it.

You can check the following link to the FCA official website to read more about it: https://www.fca.org.uk/consumers/claim-compensation-firm-fails

As you can see here, it's not so easy (and in some cases almost impossible) to get compensation from the FCA if you are unhappy with a financial product or service of the regulated broker.

Very useful information, thanks.

And what about other regulators? All of them have the same rules?

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