Thor Forex Discussão

   fughe posted:
   

   thorforex posted:
   @ fughe ...well, when you use a 56k modem, intel penium 1 with 256 mb ram, trade with a dealing desk broker what is on the other side from the globe. Yes, slippage will may kill it. But in this case you was not trading. At least i would not call it so.😄

I agree, this was only a test run with tick data from dukascopy. Since I don't know the inner workings of the EA, I stayed on the safe side and rendered the data for 1m, 5m, 15m, 30m, and 1hr for the 11-30-2010 thru 12-05-2011 period. If it happens to specifically call different timeframes, the data will be available to the tester. Anyway....my results turned up an avg win of $6.74, avg loss of $2.74. Using fixed 0.1 lot, so that gives a pseudo look into the pip win avg. Biggest loss was $5.90, and the biggest win was $59. The win rate is 53.62%.

So.....if you get slipped on a trade for a worse fill (had that happen a lot during high volatility in live trading), that will eat into your profit. If you get slipped on the close, that will eat into your profit. 940 trades total....so that gives about 504 wins and 436 losses. Does your broker slip you 1 pip during high volatility? Then the avg win becomes $4.74, and avg loss becomes $4.74 (-1 pip on entry, and -1 pip on exit.)

Now....to clarify....this system is NOT the same system that MDP is based on. It is a different beast entirely. There is a LOT, LOT, LOT of potential. But, it could have the same weakness that hurts so many that have tried MDP, which is slow broker execution speeds and slippage.

That said....the odds are on my side to have a winning account. MDP shows that my avg speeds are <400ms across the board and my slippage stays under 1 pip. I have been running MDP for about a couple months, so those figures should be fairly accurate. I haven't seen anyone with a faster account than mine yet.

The odds are definitely stacked against it, but after having seen an entire years BT and looked over it thoroughly, I remain optimistic! 😀

   thorforex posted:
   

  With an execution time below <400ms you don't need to be about slippage. Also, in case the market is very fast (where practically everything can happen) Thor will disable trading temporarily.

Thank for that info Alexander! That gives me a bit more confidence with this system.

 I am now trying some test runs on the different cores (1,2,and3). It seems that they take different trades. I know in the manual it says that if a person wants to use all the cores they should place the EA on separate charts. Does this mean that the different cores trigger trades at different times? The reason i ask is due to the mt4 trade context limitation of one function at any given time. I would rather have 3 installs of mt4 dedicated to running each core separately if there is any possibility that they might have trades open at the same time.

   fughe posted:
   Alright....welll, I finished the core 2 and 3 tests. Not even remotely as profitable as core 1 even if you combine them. But just for the sake of having the stats, here is what I got.

Core2: ~+461 pips. 294 trades 50% profitable. Avg win $5.16, Avg loss $2.02. Largest Loss #3.30, Largest Win $55.40.

Core3: ~+305 pips. 96 trades 58.33% profitable. Avg win $7.13, Avg loss $2.36. Largest Loss $3.90, Largest Win $56.00.

I could cross reference the trades to see about the entry times, but I am going to wait to see if Alexander will be kind enough to inform us whether or not the cores will ever have trades open at the same time. If so, when i set up the live account, I will put each core in its own mt4 install with separate magic numbers. If they never have trades open simultaneously, then i will put them all in the same mt4 install.

Oh yeah....same setup as previous. Still fixed 0.1 minilot still 11-30-2010 thru 12-05-2011, etc,etc... All i did was change which core is being tested.

   kishorejoga posted:
   
This mans demo account on website showing MDP trade comment dont waste your time
Please put your cursor ove roreder area n second demo account on website and u will realise (this man is a nothing but another constar want to sell cracKed MDP

   thorforex posted:
   

   san4x posted:
   Where's the forward test that started in Jan 2011...you do show it in the video, but it's not here.

Did the account blow up? Did something go wrong? Was curve not smooth enough?

Also agree with SmoothHedge: nice backtests, but NOTHING beats a forward test on a LIVE account.

So....where's the LIVE account?

Hi san4x,
results from both accounts are published on publishing websites and also on the homepage. Follow them if you are interested in. Greetings, Alex

   kishorejoga posted:
   PLease keep you cursors exactly the place i HAVE SHOWN in the attachment
You will know this system is MDP

   MetaCoder posted:
   

   kishorejoga posted:
   PLease keep you cursors exactly the place i HAVE SHOWN in the attachment
You will know this system is MDP

You are very correct. MDP 1.2

   SmoothHedge posted:
   It trades similarly to Million Dollar Pips, which only trades on news spikes. Finding a broker that executes fast enough with such a system is nearly impossible, MDP has already dried up the liquidity during spikes.

   fughe posted:
   I checked it out and snapped a screenshot of it myself, just for the record. 😄

I am still not completely convinced it is a repackaged MDP though. I say that for 2 reasons. #1-In the tick tests, it outperforms MDP. #2-It takes trades that MDP doesn't. Some are very similar, but some are initiated when MDP would never attempt to trade.

There are some similarities, but I am not 100% convinced that it is bogus just yet. Heck, I thought MDP wouldn't work and it has made me a lot of money. Even if Thor is a hyped up MDP, maybe it is a better system and will be more profitable.

   rodragon posted:
   If this system is the 'copy' of another, someone can tell me where I find the original system?, I would like to see how well it works for purchase.