Do you think you can turn $200 into $400 in six weeks?
Členom od Aug 19, 2013
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Jun 21, 2014 at 19:30
Master_Kiwa posted:
Hablas espanol Codemonkey?
Yes. But it isn't my native language.
Not everyone who lives here was born here.
Viva La Puerto Rico!
Členom od Aug 19, 2013
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Jun 21, 2014 at 20:07
(upravené Jun 21, 2014 at 20:14)
Master_Kiwa posted:
All of my accounts are real. You mention that 'the bubble' can only be seen by the account owner?
NO your accounts are fake, you already stated they were 'test' accounts which are like demo accounts expect they verify as real. You also said you never said the account was real, which also infers that the account is fake.
You're a fraud and you admitted they are not real accounts.
When the comments are set to private you can only see them if you are the account owner and logged into the account.
Here is a current screenshot of your DFX account history.
THERE IS NO BUBBLE because you are hiding the comments. And thus, only the account owner can see them.
As I said THE PUBLIC CAN'T ACCESS THEM.
Master_Kiwa posted:
Well I guess I am crazytrader then... Have a look at the following link.
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/CrazyTrader/dirty-girl-competition/951598
Go to page 3 and scroll down to where it says DEPOSIT. *****Is that a bubble I see?***** I'm sorry man from 'P.R.' you were saying? Now click the link BUBBLE *which CodeMonkeyTheAccountDeleter* SAYS only the account holder can see. Well I am master_kiwa and Crazytrader...... Well everyone else who clicks the link and goes to page 3 will have the ability to hack CRAZYTRADER'S myfxbook page.
Yes I deleted my stats page, does that make me a fraud? No of course not. It means I was done with the stats page. You're being a child about this.
Why did you delete the old stats pages that you had on your account? Your PAMM accounts for example? Well clearly by your logic all of those accounts were demo and fake as well. Seriously the logic you use is complete rubish. Grow up and learn that simply because someone doesn't have their stats public, doesn't make them a fake or fraud. You did already however admit you use test accounts which are in reality demo accounts and manage to get them to verify as real. So again who's the fraud here? Oh that's right, the evidence speaks for itself. You're a fraud and a liar and you seek to find fault where there is none.
Master_Kiwa posted:
I have mine. They are not altered. REAL ACCOUNT, VERIFIED.
Nope. Forgetting you already said you use 'test' accounts are you?
Here let me refresh your memory.
Master_Kiwa posted:
The same person who gave me access to the DFX account mentioned to me the ability of TEST accounts ( much like demo) which appear as REAL accounts with this system.
YOU USE TEST ACCOUNTS. THUS THEY ARE FRAUD ACCOUNTS BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT LIVE REAL MONEY ACCOUNTS.
You cannot hide from the truth and your own admission of guilt.
You are a fraud and a liar with 'test' accounts, pretending they are 'live'.
Also, since you obviously have access to 'TEST' accounts, I'm thinking you have the ability to make the accounts say anything you want in them. As 'TEST' accounts are not available to the general public, only DEMO or LIVE.
Viva La Puerto Rico!
Členom od Aug 19, 2013
182 príspevkov
Jun 21, 2014 at 20:30
(upravené Jun 21, 2014 at 20:33)
Hzardous posted:
relax guys, i believe Master Kiwa already apologized for all the rude words he said before..
Nope. Still waiting on my public apology from him. He's a liar and a fraud. I've already proven it.
All he needs to do is apologize for being a fraud and a liar and for attacking myself and others, and then simply stop doing it.
Hzardous posted:
no need to put more wood on the fire. lets just get back to the topic of this thread.
can you turn $200 into $400 in 6 weeks?
1) I've left it alone numerous times, only to come back and find numerous additional attacks. So I responded when they were attacks against me. Stay out of it please.
2) Yes of course.
3) I am asking you very politely: 'Please do not get involved with this.' Thank you.
Viva La Puerto Rico!
Členom od Apr 14, 2013
402 príspevkov
Jun 21, 2014 at 22:42
(upravené Jun 21, 2014 at 22:50)
CodeMonkey posted:Master_Kiwa posted:
All of my accounts are real. You mention that 'the bubble' can only be seen by the account owner?
NO your accounts are fake, you already stated they were 'test' accounts which are like demo accounts expect they verify as real. You also said you never said the account was real, which also infers that the account is fake.
You're a fraud and you admitted they are not real accounts.
When the comments are set to private you can only see them if you are the account owner and logged into the account.
Here is a current screenshot of your DFX account history.
THERE IS NO BUBBLE because you are hiding the comments. And thus, only the account owner can see them.
As I said THE PUBLIC CAN'T ACCESS THEM.Master_Kiwa posted:
Well I guess I am crazytrader then... Have a look at the following link.
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/CrazyTrader/dirty-girl-competition/951598
Go to page 3 and scroll down to where it says DEPOSIT. *****Is that a bubble I see?***** I'm sorry man from 'P.R.' you were saying? Now click the link BUBBLE *which CodeMonkeyTheAccountDeleter* SAYS only the account holder can see. Well I am master_kiwa and Crazytrader...... Well everyone else who clicks the link and goes to page 3 will have the ability to hack CRAZYTRADER'S myfxbook page.
Yes I deleted my stats page, does that make me a fraud? No of course not. It means I was done with the stats page. You're being a child about this.
Why did you delete the old stats pages that you had on your account? Your PAMM accounts for example? Well clearly by your logic all of those accounts were demo and fake as well. Seriously the logic you use is complete rubish. Grow up and learn that simply because someone doesn't have their stats public, doesn't make them a fake or fraud. You did already however admit you use test accounts which are in reality demo accounts and manage to get them to verify as real. So again who's the fraud here? Oh that's right, the evidence speaks for itself. You're a fraud and a liar and you seek to find fault where there is none.Master_Kiwa posted:
I have mine. They are not altered. REAL ACCOUNT, VERIFIED.
Nope. Forgetting you already said you use 'test' accounts are you?
Here let me refresh your memory.Master_Kiwa posted:
The same person who gave me access to the DFX account mentioned to me the ability of TEST accounts ( much like demo) which appear as REAL accounts with this system.
YOU USE TEST ACCOUNTS. THUS THEY ARE FRAUD ACCOUNTS BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT LIVE REAL MONEY ACCOUNTS.
You cannot hide from the truth and your own admission of guilt.
You are a fraud and a liar with 'test' accounts, pretending they are 'live'.
Also, since you obviously have access to 'TEST' accounts, I'm thinking you have the ability to make the accounts say anything you want in them. As 'TEST' accounts are not available to the general public, only DEMO or LIVE.
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/Master_Kiwa/dfx/949966
There you can now confirm the bubble theory. Thank you so much for pointing out that the comments section was made private, which is the reason why you were able to see it. So now you can see what it is I screen shot earlier. You went on this big old rant about 'fraud' 'fake accounts', yet the account you are mentioning DFX was NEVER mentioned in a single post. The reason why you even knew that account existed is because you have been trolling my account. You have not done anything else. You most certainly have not been able to trade.
You have erased your account, because my draw down .54% was 4 times less then yours! Your system had a big time floating position which ended up going against you, so out of embarrassment you closed the account out. I can assure you that if you were to load the very same account for us to see, it would not show DEPOSIT CC, #XXXXX DEPOSIT
So here is what I've done, as you are making asinine accusations. All of my accounts now have the 'comments' section public. Simply go to the account, go to the first page, and search for every deposit. Case closed on that issue.
So codemonkey. If you reopen and make your account visible, I will be willing to send you via paypal since you are in PR; 1,000usd. In which you can do what ever it is you like. If you are a serious trader, you would deposit some of it, make the account public, and deposit with the same broker which you opened the account with to go against me..... You know the same broker which you margin called the DEMO account. This way we can be grown men about what happened.
You going on these rants, being the person who was gloating about his stats after 1 day of trading, and you didn't even make it to day 4 of the 14 days allotted. :) My account is still up and running, 10% profit with less .55% dd. No, I have not been able to turn the account over 5 times as I did the following week, but at least I'm trading well. 10% is better then nothing, or even margin call.
So what do you say? Are you willing to re-post your account? I don't understand how someone was going-on posting every hour about his stats, and his avg and then all of a sudden it says the account is no longer public. I was confused. I thought I was sleeping. The sad thing is it is real! That really happened. I know so many of you would love to see my margin call this 10k account, but the reality is as long as I trade well, people will always want to get our signals, or our services. That is why myfxbook isn't for people who simply type, and try to justify everything with words instead of numbers.
P.S.
Codemonkey, at least since you and I have met, I have been able to teach you how to calculate the amount of money a person was in red based on knowing their dd% and account value. : ) If you would only see how I coded this ea to have less then 5% dd :)
Focus on pip-drawdown
Členom od Oct 24, 2013
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Jun 21, 2014 at 22:44
(upravené Jun 21, 2014 at 23:04)
CrazyTrader posted:As for the example which you've posted.... Which you have not indicated is my account or not.....
Obviously this wasn't your account. Since when could you get such stats as a scalper.
So far you have all the information.
The question is still the same: How does Myfxbook calculate 16.8 Pip Drawdown?
Ps: One more time, It doesn't matter if this picture come from a live or demo account. Data shown would be the same!!!
It's like asking if a trend line is in the right place. Who knows how they calculate this stat. It's an indicative BS stat really. For it to really mean anything and be accurate you would need to close MT and trade off the MFB charts.
Do the same chart in every time frame from M1 through D1 and the movement will look different in each one. So where did the move really start? Where was the true top and bottom? On the M1 chart you may have nailed a move from top to bottom but when you look at it on the 1H chart you see that you grabbed the middle of a much bigger movement and then on the D1 chart you may see that what you traded was a retracement or a counter trend. Where is the true Top and Bottom? MFB does not know what time frame you are looking at when you make your trading decisions. And if you're a good trader you are looking at multiple time frames when you make your entry and exit decisions any way. Like with trend lines if you look at the same period on a Monthly you'll probably see that you missed 1000 pips in a long term trend.
What does it matter. Was it a successful trade?
On top of that if you change your local time from 'GMT' to 'Local Time' and then to 'Server Time' and the movement will be different.
From looking at your chart they could even calculate entry accuracy using the close and open but calculate Pip Draw Down using High and Low. I don't really know. Only MFB knows for sure with this stat because it's relative and indicative not absolute and can not be examined in great detail with any accuracy.
You can't spend open trades.
Členom od Oct 24, 2013
268 príspevkov
Jun 21, 2014 at 23:01
(upravené Jun 21, 2014 at 23:02)
In my opinion forget about Pip Draw Down it means nothing. Focus on the distance between your Account Balance and your Equity.
That's the difference between the money you think you have and the money you really have. Thats the money you can withdraw and spend.
When they are no longer friends it's time for tick tick BOOM!!
If you can keep the Equity above the Balance then you ARE a God of trading.
How can a scalper possibly pick true Tops and Bottoms anyway? They are not even looking at the big picture. The Bottom probably happened a week ago and the Top won't happen for another week.
Top and Bottom of what?
Does an investor get it wrong when he misses the first 100 pips of a 1000 pip move? I don't think so.
That's the difference between the money you think you have and the money you really have. Thats the money you can withdraw and spend.
When they are no longer friends it's time for tick tick BOOM!!
If you can keep the Equity above the Balance then you ARE a God of trading.
How can a scalper possibly pick true Tops and Bottoms anyway? They are not even looking at the big picture. The Bottom probably happened a week ago and the Top won't happen for another week.
Top and Bottom of what?
Does an investor get it wrong when he misses the first 100 pips of a 1000 pip move? I don't think so.
You can't spend open trades.
Členom od Apr 14, 2013
402 príspevkov
Jun 21, 2014 at 23:04
(upravené Jun 21, 2014 at 23:06)
Silverthorn posted:CrazyTrader posted:As for the example which you've posted.... Which you have not indicated is my account or not.....
Obviously this wasn't your account. Since when could you get such stats as a scalper.
So far you have all the information.
The question is still the same: How does Myfxbook calculate 16.8 Pip Drawdown?
Ps: One more time, It doesn't matter if this picture come from a live or demo account. Data shown would be the same!!!
It's like asking if a trend line is in the right place. Who knows how they calculate this stat. It's an indicative BS stat really. For it to really mean anything and be accurate you would need to close MT and trade off the MFB charts.
Do the same chart in every time frame from M1 through D1 and the movement will look different in each one. So where did the move really start? Where was the true top and bottom? On the M1 chart you may have nailed a move from top to bottom but when you look at it on the 1H chart you see that you grabbed the middle of a much bigger movement and then on the D1 chart you may see that what you traded was a retracement on a counter trend. Where is the true Top and Bottom? MFB does not know what time frame you are looking at when you make your trading decisions. And if you're a good trader you are looking at multiple time frames when you make your entry and exit decisions any way. Like with trend lines if you look at the same period on a Monthly you'll probably see that you missed 1000 pips in a long term trend.
What does it matter. Was it a successful trade?
On top of that if you change your local time from 'GMT' to 'Local Time' and then to 'Server Time' and the movement will be different.
From looking at your chart they could even calculate entry accuracy using the close and open but calculate Pip Draw Down using High and Low. I don't really know. Only MFB knows for sure with this stat because it's relative and indicative not absolute and can not be examined in great detail with any accuracy.
Agreed. The most important stat within that graph is PIP-DRAWDOWN. As even the time profitable can look worse then what it really is. As a person could of been inside of an accumulation range for maybe 2-3 hours, and the breakout ended up being in his/her favor.
Then again most traders aren't looking for accuracy. Simple profit! So even if they have to give the market 500 pips before their tp is hit, then they are ok with that.
Focus on pip-drawdown
Členom od Aug 19, 2013
182 príspevkov
Jun 21, 2014 at 23:07
(upravené Jun 21, 2014 at 23:13)
Master_Kiwa posted:
I have mine. They are not altered. REAL ACCOUNT, VERIFIED.
Nope. Forgetting you already said you use 'test' accounts are you?
Here let me refresh your memory.
YOU USE TEST ACCOUNTS. THUS THEY ARE FRAUD ACCOUNTS BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT LIVE REAL MONEY ACCOUNTS.
You cannot hide from the truth and your own admission of guilt.
You are a fraud and a liar with 'test' accounts, pretending they are 'live'.
Also, since you obviously have access to 'TEST' accounts, I'm thinking you have the ability to make the accounts say anything you want in them. As 'TEST' accounts are not available to the general public, only DEMO or LIVE.
Master_Kiwa posted:
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/Master_Kiwa/dfx/949966
There you can now confirm the bubble theory. Thank you so much for pointing out that the comments section was made private, which is the reason why you were able to see it. So now you can see what it is I screen shot earlier. You went on this big old rant about 'fraud' 'fake accounts', yet the account you are mentioning DFX was NEVER mentioned in a single post. The reason why you even knew that account existed is because you have been trolling my account. You have not done anything else. You most certainly have not been able to trade.
Actually it was. And in that same exact post you talked about 'TEST' accounts which appears as real even though they are just like demo, was when you mentioned it. And you've got no place to talk about people looking at your stats pages. You don't want people to look don't make them public.
And
You're a fraud and a liar. You're 'live' account is a test account and your account proves it.
See below:
Master_Kiwa posted:
The same person who gave me access to the DFX account mentioned to me the ability of TEST accounts ( much like demo) which appear as REAL accounts with this system.
You cannot hide from the truth.
You are a fraud. We've proven it. let it go. Apologize and move on.
See screenshots above.
Master_Kiwa posted:
So here is what I've done, as you are making asinine accusations. All of my accounts now have the 'comments' section public. Simply go to the account, go to the first page, and search for every deposit. Case closed on that issue.
You're right the case is closed. You provided yet more evidence of your fraudulent behavior.
Your 'live' account says 'test balance' in the little bubble.
It's a TEST account. Which is like DEMO but validates as 'LIVE'.
Master_Kiwa posted:
So codemonkey. If you reopen and make your account visible, I will be willing to send you via paypal since you are in PR; 1,000usd. In which you can do what ever it is you like. If you are a serious trader, you would deposit some of it, make the account public, and deposit with the same broker which you opened the account with to go against me..... You know the same broker which you margin called the DEMO account. This way we can be grown men about what happened.
You are truly an idiot. I didn't margin call the live account. I showed the account after it was validated and verified.
I closed the stats page because I wasn't going to bother with the contest. Get over yourself and look at the facts.
I'm not the one using a test account which validated as live, and yet is not a live funded account.
Master_Kiwa posted:
You going on these rants, being the person who was gloating about his stats after 1 day of trading, and you didn't even make it to day 4. :) My account is still up and running 10% profit with less .54% dd. No I have not been able to turn the account over 5 times as I did the following week, but at least I'm trading well. 10% is better then nothing, or even margin call.
I had +17% percent with 2.4% DD.
Where is your 500% you said you would get by friday?
Still waiting. You've yet to even double the account.
You talk a great deal and boast of massive gains yet fail to be able to prove anything other than your being a fraud and liar.
Master_Kiwa posted:
So what do you say? Are you willing to re-post your account? I don't understand how someone was going one day posting every hour about his stats...
Because you can update your stats using any standard chart time frame from 5 minutes to 1440 minutes.
24 hours x 60 minutes = 1440
Or you can update them at any time, but clicking the test button on that same panel.
Master_Kiwa posted:
Codemonkey, at least since you and I have met, I have been able to teach you how to calculate the amount of money a person was in red based on knowing their dd% and account value. : ) If you would only see how I coded this ea to have less then 5% dd :)
You've only taught me that you are unable to accept reality and the use of logic is lost upon you.
Viva La Puerto Rico!
Členom od Apr 14, 2013
402 príspevkov
Jun 21, 2014 at 23:11
Silverthorn posted:
In my opinion forget about Pip Draw Down it means nothing. Focus on the distance between your Account Balance and your Equity.
That's the difference between the money you think you have and the money you really have. Thats the money you can withdraw and spend.
When they are no longer friends it's time for tick tick BOOM!!
If you can keep the Equity above the Balance then you ARE a God of trading.
How can a scalper possibly pick true Tops and Bottoms anyway? They are not even looking at the big picture. The Bottom probably happened a week ago and the Top won't happen for another week.
Top and Bottom of what?
Does an investor get it wrong when he misses the first 100 pips of a 1000 pip move? I don't think so.
Scalpers, at least the ones I know, don't look to trade tops and bottoms. As tops and bottoms are 100% subjective. All we can bet our money on is that the price accumulates, and reverses at pivot points. On the other hand I try to trade engulf patters. Which simply means an engulf happens, and I take the trade, as long as the candle which I have entered has not been engulfed then to me I am on the right side of the trade. Some formations have stronger reactions t engulf then others. So for example of the 8 I trade, 2 of them have amazing results. Once the engulf of the counter-trend candle occurs it closes after 5mins +8... If one has stats, and enough data, you would simply wager based on the probabilities. The reality is we are trading currencies, and currencies can have a wide enough spread at any given moment to margin call an account which has a big enough account.
Focus on pip-drawdown
Členom od Apr 14, 2013
402 príspevkov
Jun 21, 2014 at 23:17
CodeMonkey posted:Master_Kiwa posted:
I have mine. They are not altered. REAL ACCOUNT, VERIFIED.
Nope. Forgetting you already said you use 'test' accounts are you?
Here let me refresh your memory.
YOU USE TEST ACCOUNTS. THUS THEY ARE FRAUD ACCOUNTS BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT LIVE REAL MONEY ACCOUNTS.
You cannot hide from the truth and your own admission of guilt.
You are a fraud and a liar with 'test' accounts, pretending they are 'live'.
Also, since you obviously have access to 'TEST' accounts, I'm thinking you have the ability to make the accounts say anything you want in them. As 'TEST' accounts are not available to the general public, only DEMO or LIVE.
Master_Kiwa posted:
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/Master_Kiwa/dfx/949966
There you can now confirm the bubble theory. Thank you so much for pointing out that the comments section was made private, which is the reason why you were able to see it. So now you can see what it is I screen shot earlier. You went on this big old rant about 'fraud' 'fake accounts', yet the account you are mentioning DFX was NEVER mentioned in a single post. The reason why you even knew that account existed is because you have been trolling my account. You have not done anything else. You most certainly have not been able to trade.
Actually it was. And in that same exact post you talked about 'TEST' accounts which appears as real even though they are just like demo, was when you mentioned it. And you've got no place to talk about people looking at your stats pages. You don't want people to look don't make them public.
And
You're a fraud and a liar. You're 'live' account is a test account and your account proves it.
See below:
Master_Kiwa posted:
The same person who gave me access to the DFX account mentioned to me the ability of TEST accounts ( much like demo) which appear as REAL accounts with this system.
You cannot hide from the truth.
You are a fraud. We've proven it. let it go. Apologize and move on.
See screenshots above.
Master_Kiwa posted:
So here is what I've done, as you are making asinine accusations. All of my accounts now have the 'comments' section public. Simply go to the account, go to the first page, and search for every deposit. Case closed on that issue.
You're right the case is closed. You provided yet more evidence of your fraudulent behavior.
Your 'live' account says 'test balance' in the little bubble.
It's a TEST account. Which is like DEMO but validates as 'LIVE'.
Master_Kiwa posted:
So codemonkey. If you reopen and make your account visible, I will be willing to send you via paypal since you are in PR; 1,000usd. In which you can do what ever it is you like. If you are a serious trader, you would deposit some of it, make the account public, and deposit with the same broker which you opened the account with to go against me..... You know the same broker which you margin called the DEMO account. This way we can be grown men about what happened.
You are truly an idiot. I didn't margin call the live account. I showed the account after it was validated and verified.
I closed the stats page because I wasn't going to bother with the contest. Get over yourself and look at the facts.
I'm not the one using a test account which validated as live, and yet is not a live funded account.
Master_Kiwa posted:
You going on these rants, being the person who was gloating about his stats after 1 day of trading, and you didn't even make it to day 4. :) My account is still up and running 10% profit with less .54% dd. No I have not been able to turn the account over 5 times as I did the following week, but at least I'm trading well. 10% is better then nothing, or even margin call.
I had +17% percent with 2.4% DD.
Where is your 500% you said you would get by friday?
Still waiting. You've yet to even double the account.
You talk a great deal and boast of massive gains yet fail to be able to prove anything other than your being a fraud and liar.
Master_Kiwa posted:
So what do you say? Are you willing to re-post your account? I don't understand how someone was going one day posting every hour about his stats, and his avg and then all of a sudden it says the account is no longer public. I was confused. I thought I was sleeping. The sad thing is it is real! That really happened. I know so many of you would love to see my margin call this 10k account, but the reality is as long as I trade well, people will always want to get our signals, or our services. That is why myfxbook isn't for people who simply type, and try to justify everything with words instead of numbers.
Because you can update your stats using any standard chart time frame from 5 minutes to 1440 minutes.
24 hours x 60 minutes = 1440
Or you can update them at any time, but clicking the test button on that same panel.
Codemonkey, at least since you and I have met, I have been able to teach you how to calculate the amount of money a person was in red based on knowing their dd% and account value. : ) If you would only see how I coded this ea to have less then 5% dd :)
You've only taught me that you are unable to accept reality and the use of logic is lost upon you.
:) Looks like you're not going to take me up on my offer huh? Anyway looks like the account with the 10k isn't a demo huh. lol What does that account say? CC DEPOSIT doesn't it?
You also never updated nor verified the account. I have looked through each and everyone of your post, and have not found one which reveals it was ever verified. Anyway, since I love transparency and you seem to be against it. I will simply ignore you. You even have the last word. No sense in arguing with a fool, because from a distance won't be able to tell the difference between me and You. You've loaded a DEMO fronting it like a real account, then you were MARGIN CALLED and now you won't even accept 1k usd for you to upload the same account again. Your ego is much bigger then your knowledge of the market, which is why you taken down your account which was suppose to have been up for 2 weeks. You couldn't even make 1 full week in demo! Imagine how it would be in live.
Focus on pip-drawdown
Členom od Oct 24, 2013
268 príspevkov
Jun 21, 2014 at 23:18
(upravené Jun 21, 2014 at 23:33)
Please note......... I don't give a crap about PIP-DRAWDOWN. I think it's a rubbish stat and relative to the time frame you are trading over and trading style. Risk Reward tells you FAR more about your trading accuracy. a 2 pip draw down on a 3 pip trade is rubbish. a 10 pip draw down on a 100 pip trade is good. It does not consider the Time Frame, Stop Loss or TP of a trade. It's relative and indicative at best.
Equity Growth however is universal, it is the true indication of success, it is the net result of doing things right or wrong and is by far the best indication of the health of an account.
LOOK AT YOUR EQUITY.
Equity Growth however is universal, it is the true indication of success, it is the net result of doing things right or wrong and is by far the best indication of the health of an account.
LOOK AT YOUR EQUITY.
You can't spend open trades.
Členom od Apr 14, 2013
402 príspevkov
Jun 21, 2014 at 23:22
Silverthorn posted:
Please note......... I don't give a crap about PIP-DRAWDOWN. I think it's a rubbish stat and relative to the time frame you are trading over and trading style. Risk Reward tells you FAR more about your trading accuracy. a 2 pip draw down on a 3 pip trade is rubbish. a 10 pip draw down on a 100 pip trade is good. It does not consider the Time Frame, Stop Loss or TP of a trade. It's relative and indicative at best.
Equity Growth however is universal, it is the true indication of success, it is the net result of doing things right or wrong and is by far the best indication of the health of an account.
Well think about it compared to time. How much time and profit are you willing to risk in order to hit your EXPECTED R:R?
You are right about it being based on the system which is being used. Of course if a person is willing to risk .3% of his account per pip, and on avg his ACTUAL R:R is 1:7 he would be earning 2.1% profit per trade while only going in red only .3% of his total account. Pip-draw-down is use to calculate that stat. Pip-draw-down is also used in calculating DD%
To you who may not care about it, may do so for many reasons. Yet, the reality is the stat which many of you measure 'a good system' with is a PRODUCT of PIP-DRAW-DOWN + account equity used.
Focus on pip-drawdown
Členom od Aug 19, 2013
182 príspevkov
Jun 21, 2014 at 23:29
(upravené Jun 21, 2014 at 23:37)
Master_Kiwa posted:
:) Looks like you're not going to take me up on my offer huh? Anyway looks like the account with the 10k isn't a demo huh. lol What does that account say? CC DEPOSIT doesn't it?
You have access to test accounts, which the general public obviously do not have access to.
Thus you probably have additional admin access to update the comments sections on any ticket entry, which means you could easily update it to say 'demo', 'test' or whatever other nonsense you have.
Your DFX account is also suppose to be a live account and what does it say?
Validated as live with verified trading.
Yet, the bubble on the deposit shows the truth. It is a test demo account.
You are a fraud and a liar. Your arguments and rants are nullified and as worthless as those test accounts you trade with.
Welcome to reality.
Viva La Puerto Rico!
Členom od Aug 19, 2013
182 príspevkov
Jun 22, 2014 at 00:05
Clearly you are acting in a fraudulent manner and using test accounts as live accounts.
You are exploiting a flaw in the myfxbook system to validate 'test' (demo) accounts as real accounts, when in reality they are worthless demo accounts.
YOUR account.
DFX Validated and verified as real with $1000.00 in deposits.
Which is false, and you are exploiting a weakness in the myfxbook system because they cannot detect the difference, but you admit the exploit exists and this is proof of it.
NOT A REAL ACCOUNT.
You are exploiting a flaw in the myfxbook system to validate 'test' (demo) accounts as real accounts, when in reality they are worthless demo accounts.
YOUR account.
DFX Validated and verified as real with $1000.00 in deposits.
Which is false, and you are exploiting a weakness in the myfxbook system because they cannot detect the difference, but you admit the exploit exists and this is proof of it.
NOT A REAL ACCOUNT.
Viva La Puerto Rico!
Členom od Nov 21, 2011
1718 príspevkov
Jun 22, 2014 at 00:05
OMG, I just got back home and I got 16 notifications about this thread !!!
I will ask Myfxbook to delete this rubbish thread !!!
The competition is still on.
There is 1 week left to make insane demo profit : )
If I kick your ass Mr M. K.
=> I will open a live account.
I will ask Myfxbook to delete this rubbish thread !!!
The competition is still on.
There is 1 week left to make insane demo profit : )
If I kick your ass Mr M. K.
=> I will open a live account.
Členom od Aug 19, 2013
182 príspevkov
Jun 22, 2014 at 00:06
CrazyTrader I actually already asked, they said no. By all means please ask again anyway. Perhaps if another person would ask maybe they will listen to reason.
Viva La Puerto Rico!
Členom od Nov 21, 2011
1718 príspevkov
Jun 22, 2014 at 00:08
CodeMonkey posted:
CrazyTrader I actually already asked, they said no. By all means please ask again anyway. Perhaps if another person would ask maybe they will listen to reason.
Maybe they enjoy the drama...
At least they could say whose using real account or not !!!
Členom od Aug 19, 2013
182 príspevkov
Jun 22, 2014 at 00:18
(upravené Jun 22, 2014 at 00:29)
@CrazyTrader
myfxbook has no way to actually know if an account is real or test or demo or something else, this is due in part to the method being used for validation.
And at this point it's honestly probably irrelevant.
Master_kiwa has shown us that there exists an exploit that allows him to validate a demo ('test') account as a real ('live') account.
After thinking about it for a bit (thank you master_kiwa), I realized that it can probably be done with any demo account and not just 'test' accounts as previously indicated. I'm not willing to discuss how it can be done, but I honestly think it renders the 'real' vs 'demo' argument invalid because there isn't any way to tell the difference.
@Master_Kiwa we clearly have a strong difference of opinion about a great many things. You are entitled to your opinion. I am entitled to mine. Let's just end this now. I no longer wish to argue anything with you, please allow this topic to die and pass into oblivion where it belongs. I wish you only the best in your future with your trading. Let this end now please.
TO EVERYONE:
This argument with master_kiwa has long since past the point of providing any real value to this thread, and for that I hereby apologize in public and to the community in general for any part I had in encouraging it. Facts and truths have been presented.
myfxbook has no way to actually know if an account is real or test or demo or something else, this is due in part to the method being used for validation.
And at this point it's honestly probably irrelevant.
Master_kiwa has shown us that there exists an exploit that allows him to validate a demo ('test') account as a real ('live') account.
After thinking about it for a bit (thank you master_kiwa), I realized that it can probably be done with any demo account and not just 'test' accounts as previously indicated. I'm not willing to discuss how it can be done, but I honestly think it renders the 'real' vs 'demo' argument invalid because there isn't any way to tell the difference.
@Master_Kiwa we clearly have a strong difference of opinion about a great many things. You are entitled to your opinion. I am entitled to mine. Let's just end this now. I no longer wish to argue anything with you, please allow this topic to die and pass into oblivion where it belongs. I wish you only the best in your future with your trading. Let this end now please.
TO EVERYONE:
This argument with master_kiwa has long since past the point of providing any real value to this thread, and for that I hereby apologize in public and to the community in general for any part I had in encouraging it. Facts and truths have been presented.
Viva La Puerto Rico!
Členom od Oct 24, 2013
268 príspevkov
Jun 22, 2014 at 00:24
(upravené Jun 22, 2014 at 00:27)
Who started this BS myth about the bubble any way?
Just click on the BS bubble and you can change it to anything you want. Who started this, it's another Fairy Tale.
Just click on the BS bubble and you can change it to anything you want. Who started this, it's another Fairy Tale.
Prílohy:
You can't spend open trades.
Členom od Apr 14, 2013
402 príspevkov
Jun 22, 2014 at 00:29
Silverthorn posted:
Who started this BS myth about the bubble any way?
Just click on the BS bubble and you can change it to anything you want. Who started this, it's another Fairy Tale.
lol ;) LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Amazing how so many people ran with it huh? l was trying to get CodeMonkey to repost his account, but it appears his pride is way to big. Oh well. Looking forward to a brand new week of trading.
Focus on pip-drawdown
