How to anti-decompile your EA ?
Členom od Apr 20, 2010
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Jul 22, 2010 at 17:11
What is the other way that you can securely anti-decompiling your EA beside paying using ForexCIO™ EX4 Armour ?
Where can I learn to DIY like setting up dll files and create member page like Fapturbo using code authorised for licensing?
Where can I learn to DIY like setting up dll files and create member page like Fapturbo using code authorised for licensing?
Information is Gold when come to organised.
forex_trader_7
Členom od Aug 01, 2009
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Jul 22, 2010 at 17:16
(upravené Jul 22, 2010 at 17:17)
Don't let it leave your hands. Only guarantee you have.
I mean is it only me or isn't the perfect business selling the de-compiler first and then the de-compiler armour?
I mean is it only me or isn't the perfect business selling the de-compiler first and then the de-compiler armour?
Členom od Oct 28, 2009
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Jul 22, 2010 at 17:45
(upravené Jul 22, 2010 at 17:45)
Yep, I'm with Elkart. Don't sell it.
If your EA actually falls into the rare category of 'working' the last thing you want is for it to be in the open market. Run managed accounts using it. It's far more profitable to do that than to sell it anyway.
If your EA actually falls into the rare category of 'working' the last thing you want is for it to be in the open market. Run managed accounts using it. It's far more profitable to do that than to sell it anyway.
11:15, restate my assumptions: 1. Mathematics is the language of nature. 2. Everything around us can be represented and understood through numbers. 3. If you graph these numbers, patterns emerge. Therefore: There are patterns everywhere in nature.
forex_trader_8139
Členom od Mar 04, 2010
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Jul 22, 2010 at 18:59
ForexSeeker posted:
What is the other way that you can securely anti-decompiling your EA beside paying using ForexCIO™ EX4 Armour ?
Where can I learn to DIY like setting up dll files and create member page like Fapturbo using code authorised for licensing?
I think it is almost impossible to protect your EA.
The only way is the keep it for yourself.
SIM
Členom od Apr 20, 2010
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Jul 23, 2010 at 01:13
Hello Sim , are you sure ? Do you have a crack version of Fapturbo and able to run it correctly ?
Information is Gold when come to organised.
forex_trader_8139
Členom od Mar 04, 2010
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Jul 23, 2010 at 02:40
ForexSeeker posted:
Hello Sim , are you sure ? Do you have a crack version of Fapturbo and able to run it correctly ?
Hi,
May i know how fapturbo work? You said code authorised for licensing, do you mean that the seller of fapturbo will issue you an special code(licence key) then you enter it into fapturbo EA?
Regards,
SIM
Členom od Apr 20, 2010
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Jul 23, 2010 at 03:04
You have to login to their member page. Key in the ID-code generate by the EA on your live account, you will get the password. One purchase only can use on one live account only, demo is unlimited.
Information is Gold when come to organised.
Členom od Oct 29, 2009
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Jul 23, 2010 at 04:16
(upravené Jul 23, 2010 at 04:18)
Ahh... FAPTurbo... What if I told you that their ID generator is a simplest way and ancient way of generating? It's smart programing, but it follows the old way of how software company protect their license.
Buried within the dll file is a calculator which will generate a key within the dll file. So with a few variables, like account number, name, broker name. It generates a ID KEY and a corresponding Authentication code. This same calculator is also hosted on their members site. So with the ID KEY, you get your Authentication code from the site.
The Authentication code then verifies the corresponding ID KEY within the dll file and voila... The software is unlock.
All a programmer needed to do was to circumvent this procedure and voila... the software is unlock.
So far, the uncrackable EA is PipBrains. All the codes are within the dll file itself. Variable calls and even the execution of the OrderSend is located within the dll file itself.
This sort of programing seems to be logically if time is not a factor. It's a martingale... As the EA needs to constantly communicated with the dll file to execute order rather than instant execution. But we are talking about nano second here...
Anyway if you want to sell ur EA and I assume your EA is going to be a Martingale/Grid coz I know u r a fan of martingale too... 😄 you should learn how PipBrain code it's EA.
Btw... I manage to come up with a calculator for FAPTurbo... 😁
Buried within the dll file is a calculator which will generate a key within the dll file. So with a few variables, like account number, name, broker name. It generates a ID KEY and a corresponding Authentication code. This same calculator is also hosted on their members site. So with the ID KEY, you get your Authentication code from the site.
The Authentication code then verifies the corresponding ID KEY within the dll file and voila... The software is unlock.
All a programmer needed to do was to circumvent this procedure and voila... the software is unlock.
So far, the uncrackable EA is PipBrains. All the codes are within the dll file itself. Variable calls and even the execution of the OrderSend is located within the dll file itself.
This sort of programing seems to be logically if time is not a factor. It's a martingale... As the EA needs to constantly communicated with the dll file to execute order rather than instant execution. But we are talking about nano second here...
Anyway if you want to sell ur EA and I assume your EA is going to be a Martingale/Grid coz I know u r a fan of martingale too... 😄 you should learn how PipBrain code it's EA.
Btw... I manage to come up with a calculator for FAPTurbo... 😁
NEVER say DIE!!!
Členom od Apr 20, 2010
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Jul 23, 2010 at 04:49
(upravené Jul 23, 2010 at 04:57)
Err... I was just testing PipBrain yesterday, the back test seem working. The demo still no trade yet.
The back test not showing very good result, is it because of incomplete code decompile or is suppose so, so have to wait few more day see if it trade on demo or not.
Amazing, how you able to decrypt dll files or you pull the data from the memory ? I once read your blog as you said is very hard to decompile dll files as they all have different code of encryption.
Have you visit ForexCIO™ EX4 Armour webpage ? It said 'Using our Envelop, Compound and “Blasting Code (BC)” protection methods makes the protected EX4 file to be executed at the Core level of the MetaTrader platform, with a memory reallocation at a 128bit, Compound encryption makes it impossible to Decompile the protected EX4 file.'
The back test not showing very good result, is it because of incomplete code decompile or is suppose so, so have to wait few more day see if it trade on demo or not.
Amazing, how you able to decrypt dll files or you pull the data from the memory ? I once read your blog as you said is very hard to decompile dll files as they all have different code of encryption.
Have you visit ForexCIO™ EX4 Armour webpage ? It said 'Using our Envelop, Compound and “Blasting Code (BC)” protection methods makes the protected EX4 file to be executed at the Core level of the MetaTrader platform, with a memory reallocation at a 128bit, Compound encryption makes it impossible to Decompile the protected EX4 file.'
Information is Gold when come to organised.
forex_trader_7
Členom od Aug 01, 2009
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Jul 23, 2010 at 05:26
Casey!!
Gentleman, put you hands together for our own resident hacker!! Casey is in tha house!!
Gentleman, put you hands together for our own resident hacker!! Casey is in tha house!!
Členom od Oct 28, 2009
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Jul 23, 2010 at 06:35
Try asking ForexCIO if it's possible to decompile their EX4 programs if you have a copy of MetaTrader Server and see what the answer is.
11:15, restate my assumptions: 1. Mathematics is the language of nature. 2. Everything around us can be represented and understood through numbers. 3. If you graph these numbers, patterns emerge. Therefore: There are patterns everywhere in nature.
Členom od Oct 29, 2009
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Jul 23, 2010 at 10:34
(upravené Jul 23, 2010 at 10:35)
Well... All the codes for PipBrains are hidden in the dll files. So I do not know why it does not trade. I also am not a hacker.. and if I were able to hack the dll files... I can be a millionaire soliciting my service... 😄
As for FAPTurbo... I stumble upon the codes by accident. Let's just say I have a karmic bond with the developer of FAPTurbo... 😄
ForexCIO seems interesting... But if I were a scammer... This is and will be my tool to have. Imagine. Taking all other EA in the world... Compile it protect it and start selling it and no one will be the wiser...
Interesting... very very interesting...
As for FAPTurbo... I stumble upon the codes by accident. Let's just say I have a karmic bond with the developer of FAPTurbo... 😄
ForexCIO seems interesting... But if I were a scammer... This is and will be my tool to have. Imagine. Taking all other EA in the world... Compile it protect it and start selling it and no one will be the wiser...
Interesting... very very interesting...
NEVER say DIE!!!
Členom od Oct 29, 2009
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Jul 23, 2010 at 10:38
Oh... if you have come across Forex Code Guard... Forget that site.... Nitefox uses it and the codes were easily cracked. Well... it was not by me but by others.
Bottom line here is it seems that no code guard can 100% protect an EA. ForexCIO maybe the best so far... but I believe if there is a will there is a way... Some smart guy is definitely going to crack this
Bottom line here is it seems that no code guard can 100% protect an EA. ForexCIO maybe the best so far... but I believe if there is a will there is a way... Some smart guy is definitely going to crack this
NEVER say DIE!!!
Členom od Apr 20, 2010
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Jul 24, 2010 at 02:03
I also come across a good tactic selling EA. ForexPipZen which give you free trial 30 days test on live/demo, tested 1 month, the 2nd month I get another 30 days test but the EA seem no trade, not sure that month is no trade or the code not working anymore.
It just need a new email address to get the 2nd code for testing, but maybe it will limited to one PC by checking the Bios code of hardware.
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/ForexSeeker/pipzen-demo-expire/35553
It just need a new email address to get the 2nd code for testing, but maybe it will limited to one PC by checking the Bios code of hardware.
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/ForexSeeker/pipzen-demo-expire/35553
Information is Gold when come to organised.
Členom od Aug 31, 2010
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Sep 07, 2010 at 09:35
ForexSeeker posted:
What is the other way that you can securely anti-decompiling your EA beside paying using ForexCIO™ EX4 Armour ?
Where can I learn to DIY like setting up dll files and create member page like Fapturbo using code authorised for licensing?
Hello,
There are 3 methods to FULLY 100% secure Your EA and its trading logic:
1) Do not sell or give away Your EA to anyone
2) Use web based protection where Your trading logic will be on the web server and EA will work only to authorized users (clickbank receipt code can be used as serial key)
3) Use trade copier software and sell only Your EA trades/signals, not the EA itself
Dont want to look like a cheap advertising poster, so I wont put my website address here. Contact me if You need help on this, I am a programmer and I already secured many EAs.
There is no such thing as a stupid question - only arrogant and angry people who get mad answering them.
Členom od Sep 10, 2010
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Sep 11, 2010 at 21:13
few trading systems, if any, are even worth cracking.
likewise, few are worth protecting.
anybody that trades with a cracked copy of anything should give it up.
likewise, few are worth protecting.
anybody that trades with a cracked copy of anything should give it up.
forex_trader_7
Členom od Aug 01, 2009
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Sep 12, 2010 at 04:34
(upravené Sep 12, 2010 at 04:37)
Zero,
Why are you posting here after slagging off fxbook on the Oanda forum?
https://fxtrade.oanda.com/community/fxmessage/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=print_topic;f=16;t=011653
It's funny how some of us could see the value of the site immediately while others like you took months to work through their paranoia. I'm sure myfxbook will enjoy knowing that you slinked back with your tail between your legs.
If you actually thought about who are de-compiling EA's for more than a moment you'd realize it's not traders. But you never think do you? Just have an opinion anyway...
Why are you posting here after slagging off fxbook on the Oanda forum?
https://fxtrade.oanda.com/community/fxmessage/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=print_topic;f=16;t=011653
It's funny how some of us could see the value of the site immediately while others like you took months to work through their paranoia. I'm sure myfxbook will enjoy knowing that you slinked back with your tail between your legs.
If you actually thought about who are de-compiling EA's for more than a moment you'd realize it's not traders. But you never think do you? Just have an opinion anyway...
Členom od Sep 10, 2010
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Sep 12, 2010 at 23:15
ForexSeeker posted:
What is the other way that you can securely anti-decompiling your EA beside paying using ForexCIO™ EX4 Armour ?
Where can I learn to DIY like setting up dll files and create member page like Fapturbo using code authorised for licensing?
doub;letrap is a script kiddie/.
his myfxbk page shows him running severa;l dozen strategies, majority of which are underwater/.
perhaps instead of trying to antidecompi;le code, you might just try to bui;ld an effective trading system/.
the wor;ld is chock fu;l;l of wankers/.
zero/.
Členom od Sep 10, 2010
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Sep 12, 2010 at 23:19
and, just to c;larify one issue, nobody is going to ever trade any sizab;le amount of money using an ea that they cant ana;lyze the code/.
i want it a;l;l/.
😎
i want it a;l;l/.
😎
Členom od Mar 16, 2012
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Mar 21, 2012 at 19:31
hey, anybody tried guardian fx1.net yet ? anti decompile license provider.
thanks
thanks
