Janus2010 (Genom forex_trader_8201)
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Janus2010 Diskussion
Medlem sedan Mar 07, 2010
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Mar 29, 2010 at 15:28
(redigerad Mar 29, 2010 at 15:31)
what's the current negative on those cable buys ? and most important how close was it to taking the initial deposit and leaving the margin requirement only ?
I wonder why the drawdown number in the stats doesn't actually show the real drawdown ... they should be showing 2 drawdown numbers ... as per current account and initial account size ... so that someone that opens the account right before the bad move can see if his account will be gone quickly ... also it'd be nice to show drawdown on the graph day by day ...
I wonder why the drawdown number in the stats doesn't actually show the real drawdown ... they should be showing 2 drawdown numbers ... as per current account and initial account size ... so that someone that opens the account right before the bad move can see if his account will be gone quickly ... also it'd be nice to show drawdown on the graph day by day ...
Medlem sedan Mar 07, 2010
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Mar 29, 2010 at 15:54
ok, don't tell me ... the drawdown was ....
'3) your last trade is always -160 pips from 1st entry ... at that point assuming your lot sequence the account is already
at -4624 and you placed 10.3 standard lots ...
assuming a flat 500:1 account ($200 per standard lot it's already locking $2060 in margin)'
so with your $52400 you have -2060-4624= 45716 left for _THE_END_ which at 10.3 lots you'll get in additional ~443 pips (at $103/pip)
according to my understanding of your positions it went against you ~308 pips from the last position so you had 443-308=135 left pips at the mercy of the market (135*103 = 13905 + 2060 margin = 15965 ... you had that much left from the initial investment of 25K at the low of last week ...)
right now about -140 from the last position so the negative is about -4624-103*140=-19044
your profit shows as 27400-19044 = 8356 that's your current profit (estimate)
as you can see when cable trends you're at the mercy of the market with this strategy ...
'3) your last trade is always -160 pips from 1st entry ... at that point assuming your lot sequence the account is already
at -4624 and you placed 10.3 standard lots ...
assuming a flat 500:1 account ($200 per standard lot it's already locking $2060 in margin)'
so with your $52400 you have -2060-4624= 45716 left for _THE_END_ which at 10.3 lots you'll get in additional ~443 pips (at $103/pip)
according to my understanding of your positions it went against you ~308 pips from the last position so you had 443-308=135 left pips at the mercy of the market (135*103 = 13905 + 2060 margin = 15965 ... you had that much left from the initial investment of 25K at the low of last week ...)
right now about -140 from the last position so the negative is about -4624-103*140=-19044
your profit shows as 27400-19044 = 8356 that's your current profit (estimate)
as you can see when cable trends you're at the mercy of the market with this strategy ...
forex_trader_8201
Medlem sedan Mar 05, 2010
22 inlägg
Mar 29, 2010 at 16:23
(redigerad Mar 29, 2010 at 16:24)
What is the reason to make these funny calculations? Everyone can just glance to the balance and equity - they say everything. I can only tell you that beside you spent a lot of time for calculations, you made a lot of mistakes. You will see them when current open positions will be closed. Do not see any reason of further discussion - the figures will say much more.
Medlem sedan Mar 07, 2010
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Mar 29, 2010 at 17:04
(redigerad Mar 29, 2010 at 17:07)
if there will be differences then only because the EA was offline and started whenever you started it ... it actually then makes it even more prone to luck ... if you're not consistent with leaving it working ...
I assumed the first position went right after the close of the last buy which is like 99% of your trades work
anyways if you leave the trades open I can obviously sync if I made mistakes ... I'm not the EA ... lol I only make some conclusions ... I'd like to test this over 10 years and see if this can be optimize to withstand all trading conditions ...
have you thought about allowing some hedging if the market starts to trend like crazy ? or maybe do a stop&reverse then ???
just a simple cross of EMA50&EMA10 on H1 should show or how many days the price is under EMA50 and has not crossed it ...
I assumed the first position went right after the close of the last buy which is like 99% of your trades work
anyways if you leave the trades open I can obviously sync if I made mistakes ... I'm not the EA ... lol I only make some conclusions ... I'd like to test this over 10 years and see if this can be optimize to withstand all trading conditions ...
have you thought about allowing some hedging if the market starts to trend like crazy ? or maybe do a stop&reverse then ???
just a simple cross of EMA50&EMA10 on H1 should show or how many days the price is under EMA50 and has not crossed it ...
Medlem sedan Mar 07, 2010
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Mar 29, 2010 at 17:12
y check this on H1 ... EMA 40 or 50 and EMA10 when they cross ... if the price leaves a LOW and then heads towards EMA40/50 at least half way and then the trend doesn't reverse ... but brakes the LOW (for downtrend) then you might wait a little bit to see if it's a fake short break/beartrap and then either stop&reverse or hedge/stop and wait to reenter when the trend slows down/stops/reverses ...
what do you think ??? do you think it's even worth to implement such additional account saving strategy or do you prefer to have the EA make as much profit as it can and just withdraw from it when it makes 100% ????
what do you think ??? do you think it's even worth to implement such additional account saving strategy or do you prefer to have the EA make as much profit as it can and just withdraw from it when it makes 100% ????
forex_trader_8201
Medlem sedan Mar 05, 2010
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Mar 29, 2010 at 18:45
The idea is good. I can tell that hedging is already in use. The other suggestions must be considered. Not sure that H1 is the right timeframe, I would prefer for this EA at least D1. But all those things may be implemented in the next version of EA. The present version has already fulfilied its purpose - doubled the account in less than one month.
Medlem sedan Mar 07, 2010
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Mar 29, 2010 at 19:45
hedging is only in use since you have positions open in both directions but I'm not talking about such a heding ... if you're holding 10.3 standard lots in shorts and in buys you keep 0.1 then it's not hedging ...
I'm talking about limiting the risk of getting the account blown with strong trend lasting 3-5 days ...
Also it's true you doubled but you have it in drawdown ... so you have to wait till cable gets to probably around 1.51 then when you close the buys you'd have doubled it ... but at this time we don't know if cable will see 1.51 in the near future ...
if it breaks the low of the last week and goes 200 pips below then it'll be a disaster to your demo account; I do not like situations
where the future of the whole account is decided by 50:50 ...
I'm talking about limiting the risk of getting the account blown with strong trend lasting 3-5 days ...
Also it's true you doubled but you have it in drawdown ... so you have to wait till cable gets to probably around 1.51 then when you close the buys you'd have doubled it ... but at this time we don't know if cable will see 1.51 in the near future ...
if it breaks the low of the last week and goes 200 pips below then it'll be a disaster to your demo account; I do not like situations
where the future of the whole account is decided by 50:50 ...
forex_trader_8201
Medlem sedan Mar 05, 2010
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Mar 31, 2010 at 16:14
duzyfx posted:
... as you can see when cable trends you're at the mercy of the market with this strategy ...
I would say that this is not the mercy of the market but conscious use of cable's typical volatility.
Medlem sedan Mar 07, 2010
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Mar 31, 2010 at 22:37
(redigerad Mar 31, 2010 at 22:38)
Janus posted:
duzyfx posted:
... as you can see when cable trends you're at the mercy of the market with this strategy ...
I would say that this is not the mercy of the market but conscious use of cable's typical volatility.
I guess it's different point of view ... had the last weeks low been broken you'd say a different story :)
50/50 this time your EA wins and gets to see another day
had you started with a brand new account of 25K when the sequence of buy's started ... that account would have been blown a few days ago ...
Medlem sedan Mar 07, 2010
257 inlägg
Mar 31, 2010 at 22:40
also I see based on the buy sequence closed open price/close price that my 'silly' calculations where within 15 pips of reality ...
Medlem sedan Feb 16, 2010
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Apr 07, 2010 at 21:17
As far as I know there's no smart Martingale. Martingale = stupid.
"In trading, winning is frequently a question of luck, but losing is always a matter of skill."
forex_trader_8201
Medlem sedan Mar 05, 2010
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Apr 08, 2010 at 11:21
forexma posted:
As far as I know there's no smart Martingale. Martingale = stupid.
Maybe you're right, but even stupid strategy in smart hands may bring positive result. Just use it wisely and you are the winner.
forex_trader_8201
Medlem sedan Mar 05, 2010
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May 13, 2010 at 07:08
You can buy EA Janus at www.forex-genius.com. The price is $99 until May 20, then $199.
Medlem sedan Apr 20, 2010
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May 13, 2010 at 09:03
(redigerad May 13, 2010 at 09:11)
I see your Martingale only trade GbpUsd.
So if ratio down. Mini account will need 2.5k deposit.
Micro account will need 250 USD.
This also martingale EA start with 1k initial deposit.
43 days been running. Gain 394.03%
<a href='https://fbiforexhacked.mt4stats.com'><img src='https://www.mt4stats.com/sig1/fbiforexhacked.gif' border='0'></a>
And also I'm using the same EA, with puzzle, 4 USD balance still can climb up 2k USD in 1 day.
https://www.myfxbook.com/community/trading-systems/5-hacker-martin/27975,1
So what smart strategy that got built in Janus system that different from other martingale EA ?
The grid auto change ? Or times control trade ? Or stochastic use ?
And i see the pattern of multiply power using different approach and take profit and grid also dynamic changing.
Is that all fully auto or manually change the grid and take profit.
So if ratio down. Mini account will need 2.5k deposit.
Micro account will need 250 USD.
This also martingale EA start with 1k initial deposit.
43 days been running. Gain 394.03%
<a href='https://fbiforexhacked.mt4stats.com'><img src='https://www.mt4stats.com/sig1/fbiforexhacked.gif' border='0'></a>
And also I'm using the same EA, with puzzle, 4 USD balance still can climb up 2k USD in 1 day.
https://www.myfxbook.com/community/trading-systems/5-hacker-martin/27975,1
So what smart strategy that got built in Janus system that different from other martingale EA ?
The grid auto change ? Or times control trade ? Or stochastic use ?
And i see the pattern of multiply power using different approach and take profit and grid also dynamic changing.
Is that all fully auto or manually change the grid and take profit.
Information is Gold when come to organised.
forex_trader_8201
Medlem sedan Mar 05, 2010
22 inlägg
May 13, 2010 at 09:41
(redigerad May 13, 2010 at 09:41)
This is acommercial EA and certainly I am not going to disclose its secrets. If the one likes its results, he buys, if not, he doesn't buy. So simple... I can tell only that everything is absolutely automatic, furthermore, I didn't change any variables after I started the system on March 01.
Medlem sedan Apr 20, 2010
814 inlägg
May 13, 2010 at 09:52
(redigerad May 13, 2010 at 09:56)
The April blank data is that you turn off the EA or the EA itself don't want to trade? No longer data demo ?
As I myself did test a martingale system b4, 3 month 100% ROI on each month but the 4 month onward fails.
As I myself did test a martingale system b4, 3 month 100% ROI on each month but the 4 month onward fails.
Information is Gold when come to organised.
forex_trader_8201
Medlem sedan Mar 05, 2010
22 inlägg
May 13, 2010 at 13:03
No, it was working all the way through. All April the cable was stuck between 1.52 and 1.54, the EA opened few short positions in the end of March and was keeping them until the cable finally got out of that trap. In backtesting this EA can run up to six monhts, this is one of the backtests: https://www.forex-genius.com/demo1/StrategyTesterJanus6months.htm.
forex_trader_8201
Medlem sedan Mar 05, 2010
22 inlägg
Jun 16, 2010 at 16:15
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