Winsor's Five Trading EAs in Real Time
Jun 30, 2010 at 21:46
Anyone interested in observing my expert advisors trading in real time? This is the Beta released on June 1st, 2010. Below are the results for the month of June.
Haley = 672 pips
Jasmine = 2,680 pips
Leah = 1,710 pips
Mellisa = -992 pips
Sienna = 328 pips
If five or more people are interested, I will upload the software for you to view my trades in real time.
Winsor
Haley = 672 pips
Jasmine = 2,680 pips
Leah = 1,710 pips
Mellisa = -992 pips
Sienna = 328 pips
If five or more people are interested, I will upload the software for you to view my trades in real time.
Winsor
เป็นสมาชิกตั้งแต่ May 28, 2010
25 โพสต์
Jun 30, 2010 at 22:08
Hello Winsor.
Yes, I'm interested, please show the account/s when you want and, please, if possible, don't hide any information (broker, balance, equity, open/closed trades and so on).
Thanks,
Sventra
Yes, I'm interested, please show the account/s when you want and, please, if possible, don't hide any information (broker, balance, equity, open/closed trades and so on).
Thanks,
Sventra
If it's too good to be true, probably isn't (true)!
Jul 02, 2010 at 17:04
Can we get 4 more volunteers to sign up here? I would like the five volunteers to discuss their observations about my 5 expert advisors in real time. Here are the name of the 5 expert advisors:
Haley trades GBPUSD, maximum 6 open trades
Jasmine trades EURUSD, maximum 6 open trades
Leah trades EURUSD, maximum 6 open trades
Mellisa trades USDCHF, maximum 10 open trades
Sienna trades EURUSD, maximum 8 open trades
The target is 4,000 pips per year for each expert advisor with maximum stop loss of 120pips and maximum take profit of 280 pips per trade.
Haley trades GBPUSD, maximum 6 open trades
Jasmine trades EURUSD, maximum 6 open trades
Leah trades EURUSD, maximum 6 open trades
Mellisa trades USDCHF, maximum 10 open trades
Sienna trades EURUSD, maximum 8 open trades
The target is 4,000 pips per year for each expert advisor with maximum stop loss of 120pips and maximum take profit of 280 pips per trade.
เป็นสมาชิกตั้งแต่ May 28, 2010
25 โพสต์
Jul 02, 2010 at 19:27
-3..... 😉
If it's too good to be true, probably isn't (true)!
Jul 03, 2010 at 04:06
Hi Winsor,
I'm not interested in trading them. But IF you have some completely automated mature commercial MT4 EA's that are PROVEN to be robust, reliable and consistently profitable in ALL markets, then I would be interested in MASS marketing them. But only IF you are ready, willing and ABLE to fully and reliably provide a HIGH level of support for them. Except initially this support does not all have to be provided from you directly. Others can provide the first tier, front line end user customer support with you handling the escalated instances.
Note that you MUST have significant proof of performance. Back testing is not sufficient and will not be accepted. I also require that they have proven to be reliably profitable for a significant amount of time. A couple of months of performance is not sufficient.
This is for marketing, selling and licensing the EAs to end users, preferably with a monthly subscription fees.
The more security on them the better. Preferably live confirmation with a security server and new releases a couple of times a year with a new security code that will be issued to paid customers. There will be an overlap of the old and new versions for a month or two. After which the old version will not operate even if they are legitimate, paid versions and of course for pirated products.
If you have products that fit ALL of these criteria and are agreeable to all of these conditions, then I will mass market them to an OptIn eMail list of 10,000,000 people with a 50/50 split on all of the net profits that includes the costs of marketing them. Yes, that IS the correct number of zeros! (< 8) You will need to supply relevant information about the MT4 EAs that I can and will utilize in marketing them. I need descriptions and proven documentable facts though and NOT emotional hype and empty, unsupported claims. Independent text and A/V testimonials from those that have used your MT4 EAs for a while with good results are potent content for marketing your EAs.
If you have excellent products that fit all of these requirements, then I can and will generate significant profits for ALL involved. But unlike most commercial EAs that ONLY make money for those that develop, market and sell them, yours MUST make consistent profits for the end users as well or I will not market and sell your EAs.
Regards,
DougRH4x
I'm not interested in trading them. But IF you have some completely automated mature commercial MT4 EA's that are PROVEN to be robust, reliable and consistently profitable in ALL markets, then I would be interested in MASS marketing them. But only IF you are ready, willing and ABLE to fully and reliably provide a HIGH level of support for them. Except initially this support does not all have to be provided from you directly. Others can provide the first tier, front line end user customer support with you handling the escalated instances.
Note that you MUST have significant proof of performance. Back testing is not sufficient and will not be accepted. I also require that they have proven to be reliably profitable for a significant amount of time. A couple of months of performance is not sufficient.
This is for marketing, selling and licensing the EAs to end users, preferably with a monthly subscription fees.
The more security on them the better. Preferably live confirmation with a security server and new releases a couple of times a year with a new security code that will be issued to paid customers. There will be an overlap of the old and new versions for a month or two. After which the old version will not operate even if they are legitimate, paid versions and of course for pirated products.
If you have products that fit ALL of these criteria and are agreeable to all of these conditions, then I will mass market them to an OptIn eMail list of 10,000,000 people with a 50/50 split on all of the net profits that includes the costs of marketing them. Yes, that IS the correct number of zeros! (< 8) You will need to supply relevant information about the MT4 EAs that I can and will utilize in marketing them. I need descriptions and proven documentable facts though and NOT emotional hype and empty, unsupported claims. Independent text and A/V testimonials from those that have used your MT4 EAs for a while with good results are potent content for marketing your EAs.
If you have excellent products that fit all of these requirements, then I can and will generate significant profits for ALL involved. But unlike most commercial EAs that ONLY make money for those that develop, market and sell them, yours MUST make consistent profits for the end users as well or I will not market and sell your EAs.
Regards,
DougRH4x
(8 >) Live Long and Prosper (< 8)
Jul 03, 2010 at 04:37
Hi Doug,
I believe my EAs meet your requirements and I will take you on with your offer. Let's take the discussion off line. I will offer 5 lucky volunteers to see my EAs trading in real time with MIGfx broker. You can then contact these volunteers and get the testimonials for yourself.
Cheers,
Winsor
I believe my EAs meet your requirements and I will take you on with your offer. Let's take the discussion off line. I will offer 5 lucky volunteers to see my EAs trading in real time with MIGfx broker. You can then contact these volunteers and get the testimonials for yourself.
Cheers,
Winsor
forex_trader_14606
เป็นสมาชิกตั้งแต่ Jul 03, 2010
4 โพสต์
Jul 03, 2010 at 06:00
hi,
I think that if you want to sell your ea, it means you don't trust them enough to say :
I prefer to manage accounts, as I will get much more profits.
Your behaviour is quite strange with DougRH4x, you say contrary to what he is legitimely saying....
Show your live account certified on 9 months, with reliable broker (do you know what it is ?)
I just smell from now another more ea seller which is a scammer
I think that if you want to sell your ea, it means you don't trust them enough to say :
I prefer to manage accounts, as I will get much more profits.
Your behaviour is quite strange with DougRH4x, you say contrary to what he is legitimely saying....
Show your live account certified on 9 months, with reliable broker (do you know what it is ?)
I just smell from now another more ea seller which is a scammer
forex_trader_14606
เป็นสมาชิกตั้งแต่ Jul 03, 2010
4 โพสต์
Jul 03, 2010 at 06:20
I wish to precise that Migfx does not accept scalping
For the demo accocunt you published :
A simple joke, it is demo aslo bad quote, and not verified privileges :)
Show us you win money with ea durably...
For the demo accocunt you published :
A simple joke, it is demo aslo bad quote, and not verified privileges :)
Show us you win money with ea durably...
Jul 03, 2010 at 17:57
Hi Johann,
I don't believe in scalping and most brokers don't like scalpers. My EAs are based on swing trading techniques with a maximum stop loss of 120 pips and a maximum take profit of 280 pips. Regarding verified privileges, I will get it verify by Monday. It is not a big deal; hence, let not get caught up in the small details.
Why ask for testimonials in text or AV when you can experience the EAs for yourself for the next 2 months free? I would not put myself under great scrutiny for the next two months if I am not confidence in my five EAs. Just have a beer, relax and my EAs will do all the work!
Cheers,
Winsor
I don't believe in scalping and most brokers don't like scalpers. My EAs are based on swing trading techniques with a maximum stop loss of 120 pips and a maximum take profit of 280 pips. Regarding verified privileges, I will get it verify by Monday. It is not a big deal; hence, let not get caught up in the small details.
Why ask for testimonials in text or AV when you can experience the EAs for yourself for the next 2 months free? I would not put myself under great scrutiny for the next two months if I am not confidence in my five EAs. Just have a beer, relax and my EAs will do all the work!
Cheers,
Winsor
forex_trader_14606
เป็นสมาชิกตั้งแต่ Jul 03, 2010
4 โพสต์
Jul 03, 2010 at 18:08
(แก้ไขแล้ว Jul 03, 2010 at 18:09)
the fact is that this ea like others don't have past historic, and no explanation of how it will last in future.
Updates are always done too late. I have ea with predictive failures, this is engineering, and not commercial.
Like for me, no real live account from yourself, is no chance to convince.
You offer free, and let other take risk live, so it's not good, and I'm relaxed ...
Do you have past experience in building ea, if yes what has it become ? if not... wait 1 6 month, and show it with showing you know to do updates on time...
Updates are always done too late. I have ea with predictive failures, this is engineering, and not commercial.
Like for me, no real live account from yourself, is no chance to convince.
You offer free, and let other take risk live, so it's not good, and I'm relaxed ...
Do you have past experience in building ea, if yes what has it become ? if not... wait 1 6 month, and show it with showing you know to do updates on time...
Jul 03, 2010 at 23:25
Hi Johann,
Have another beer and chill out!
If you go under Myfxbook -> Strategies and then look for ctsforex you will find some of my backtesting results. If you go to my forex managed account website, you will see that my Alpha software development took 15 months of live trading results before the Beta software is released.
Relax, you will see my EAs in action in a couple of days. It is rather unprofessional to comment on my EAs before you understand where I am coming from.
Cheers,
Winsor
Have another beer and chill out!
If you go under Myfxbook -> Strategies and then look for ctsforex you will find some of my backtesting results. If you go to my forex managed account website, you will see that my Alpha software development took 15 months of live trading results before the Beta software is released.
Relax, you will see my EAs in action in a couple of days. It is rather unprofessional to comment on my EAs before you understand where I am coming from.
Cheers,
Winsor
Jul 05, 2010 at 15:33
Great, we have 4 volunteers! Can we get another volunteer with at least 30 posts? I want to make sure that after I upload the software, all the volunteers will share their experiences in the forum here and not to run away. It is important that we have an interactive discussions with people from different backgrounds and experiences.
เป็นสมาชิกตั้งแต่ Jan 22, 2010
2 โพสต์
Jul 05, 2010 at 19:58
hy windsor,
i am the Number 5 volunteer.
How mauch Money i must have for the managed acount?
regards steve
i am the Number 5 volunteer.
How mauch Money i must have for the managed acount?
regards steve
Jul 06, 2010 at 14:56
Hi Steve,
It is a combination of money management, your risk tolerance, selected system with its drawdown, and the fractional lot size of your trade i.e. whether your broker allows 0.05 lot or only greater than 0.1 lot trading. Although my trading systems are swing trading i.e. max take profit 280 pips and max stop loss 120 pips. There are some brokers that are notorious for requoting; hence, I would recommend to stay away them. I know this for a fact as I have been running my systems live for the past 15 months on more than 10 different brokers.
I have some clients that want to trade with only $1,000 with super aggressive trading. It is not recommended as the account will not be able to withstand a typical drawdown, and yet they insist because of their high risk tolerance.
It is a combination of money management, your risk tolerance, selected system with its drawdown, and the fractional lot size of your trade i.e. whether your broker allows 0.05 lot or only greater than 0.1 lot trading. Although my trading systems are swing trading i.e. max take profit 280 pips and max stop loss 120 pips. There are some brokers that are notorious for requoting; hence, I would recommend to stay away them. I know this for a fact as I have been running my systems live for the past 15 months on more than 10 different brokers.
I have some clients that want to trade with only $1,000 with super aggressive trading. It is not recommended as the account will not be able to withstand a typical drawdown, and yet they insist because of their high risk tolerance.
Jul 06, 2010 at 15:03
Hello Volunteers,
Please note this date on your calendar: Thursday, July 8, 2010.
I will upload our 5 trading systems onto this forum. You will be able to see all trades in real time without any delay. These are actual systems that we use for our managed forex accounts. I encourage the volunteers to post daily comments of their observation of the trades. Our company motto is Real-Time Trading. Real World Results.
Cheers,
Winsor
Please note this date on your calendar: Thursday, July 8, 2010.
I will upload our 5 trading systems onto this forum. You will be able to see all trades in real time without any delay. These are actual systems that we use for our managed forex accounts. I encourage the volunteers to post daily comments of their observation of the trades. Our company motto is Real-Time Trading. Real World Results.
Cheers,
Winsor
forex_trader_7
เป็นสมาชิกตั้งแต่ Aug 01, 2009
941 โพสต์
Jul 06, 2010 at 15:23
(แก้ไขแล้ว Jul 06, 2010 at 15:35)
'I have some clients that want to trade with only $1,000 with super aggressive trading. It is not recommended as the account will not be able to withstand a typical drawdown, and yet they insist because of their high risk tolerance.'
Winsor you can't do that.
If the accounts wipe out it's because you didn't do your job. If the client insists on something that isn't feasible you refuse him or your reputation will get hit. Not the client. He'll probably try sue.
You lose, the client loses. No one wins.
Winsor you can't do that.
If the accounts wipe out it's because you didn't do your job. If the client insists on something that isn't feasible you refuse him or your reputation will get hit. Not the client. He'll probably try sue.
You lose, the client loses. No one wins.
forex_trader_7
เป็นสมาชิกตั้งแต่ Aug 01, 2009
941 โพสต์
Jul 06, 2010 at 15:31
Here's an analogy.
I'm a commercial diver. I have a guy watching my risk (in this case time) while I dive. I say I need 5 more minutes, (cause I'll earn 5 more bucks) and he knows it will kill me, in a very unpleasant way.
Does he give me the 5 mins or does he call the standby to forcibly remove me to save my life and prevent him from being sued?
I'm a commercial diver. I have a guy watching my risk (in this case time) while I dive. I say I need 5 more minutes, (cause I'll earn 5 more bucks) and he knows it will kill me, in a very unpleasant way.
Does he give me the 5 mins or does he call the standby to forcibly remove me to save my life and prevent him from being sued?
