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Sep 18, 2018 at 13:22
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เป็นสมาชิกตั้งแต่ Dec 03, 2016   19 โพสต์
Jul 17, 2019 at 06:47
are these results with accelerator mode ?
noi
forex_trader_458057
เป็นสมาชิกตั้งแต่ Sep 07, 2017   15 โพสต์
Oct 23, 2019 at 14:56
asemilyas1 posted:
are these results with accelerator mode ?
Hello,
No, it is with normal mode.
forex_trader_458057
เป็นสมาชิกตั้งแต่ Sep 07, 2017   15 โพสต์
Oct 23, 2019 at 15:08
talea posted:
I found only bad results. Even this account is not the first.

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/ingham/ingham-investments-fx-incontrol-etc/1960335
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/forexverified/wwwforexverifiedcom-forex-incontrol-test-001/1198285
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/amarlboro/incontrol/1203385
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/Prorok/incontrol-forex-blue-box/1485603
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/amarlboro/incontrol/1203385
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/berkan/incontrol/1544041
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/ebusinessart/audusd-incontrol/2707383

Hello,
Most of these results are very very old, and we have upgraded the system from that time. Also, we don't use any more USDJPY and GBPJPY pairs. Some of your links show results, not of our system or mixed with other EA results - which is not significant.

But yes we have loss and it is only because of EURGBP pair. All the reason is in Brexit - all GBP pairs this year very unstable and we don't recommend to trade on them. And yes, inControl has stoploss at EURGBP in this year.
We recommend to trade only on AUDUSD with inControl at the moment and results will be the same as it on our account.
forex_trader_479885
เป็นสมาชิกตั้งแต่ Dec 04, 2017   1 โพสต์
Apr 03, 2020 at 11:53
Question: Why the operations of the purchased EA are NOT the same as those of this account, at the end of the month that I review, and the operations are not the same, they do not earn the same and they do not enter the same number of operations
forex_trader_458057
เป็นสมาชิกตั้งแต่ Sep 07, 2017   15 โพสต์
Apr 18, 2020 at 23:56
SOCapital posted:
Question: Why the operations of the purchased EA are NOT the same as those of this account, at the end of the month that I review, and the operations are not the same, they do not earn the same and they do not enter the same number of operations
Hello,
In a normal situation it's impossible - all trades must be the same as at our account. Possibly you use Accelerate mode, in that case trades could be another. Anyway I suggest you to contact our support, they will definitely help you - [email protected]
forex_trader_458057
เป็นสมาชิกตั้งแต่ Sep 07, 2017   15 โพสต์
Apr 18, 2020 at 23:58
AverageFxGain posted:
Hello!
What price?
or
How to follow?
Hello,
Thank you for interest in our product.
It's easy to purchase our EA at official website: forex-incontrol.com
เป็นสมาชิกตั้งแต่ Jan 10, 2017   41 โพสต์
May 14, 2020 at 15:56
@talea

Losse are on the EURGBP. EURGBP is not stable at the moment.
เป็นสมาชิกตั้งแต่ Jul 08, 2019   33 โพสต์
Jun 26, 2020 at 06:48
they risk 100% of their account to make these results look good, I am using this e.a as per recommended settings and my results are extremely different.
this is deceit and morally its wrong, you should tell members that in order to get these kinda results they gotta risk their whole deposit not 35 % which is recommended if you risk 35 % you will get 1/3rd of these profits meaning you will get 2-3% on average per month which doesnt looks attractive enough.
เป็นสมาชิกตั้งแต่ Jan 10, 2017   41 โพสต์
Jun 26, 2020 at 07:58
Hi CriptoLife786,

Can you indicate which EA is attractive? They don't fake you, the account is absolutely correct. They take great risks that can be seen in history. They do this to show what is possible. But hey 3% per month at which bank do you get that? If you study their account the way you do, you will see what you get. Anyway I'm curious about your better system.
เป็นสมาชิกตั้งแต่ Jul 08, 2019   33 โพสต์
Jun 26, 2020 at 08:08
robvdmeer posted:
Hi CriptoLife786,

Can you indicate which EA is attractive? They don't fake you, the account is absolutely correct. They take great risks that can be seen in history. They do this to show what is possible. But hey 3% per month at which bank do you get that? If you study their account the way you do, you will see what you get. Anyway I'm curious about your better system.

 I am not talking about profits, i am talking about Claims, when i was about to buy they said ' Run the standard setting and you will get the same results of our live account ' , well i did run and my results were not same as them, trades were identical, but gains were not so I emailed them again they said ' We are running at 100% risk of our deposit, we donot recommend you do that and run 35% risk' , If i Run with 35 % risk i get 2-3 % profit which is not that claimed, They lied and cheated , its not about profits.

and about banks and stuff, buddy there are some systems who give 5-10% gains and are running for more then 3 years, The whole point is ' YOU SHOULDN'T MIS GUIDE YOUR CUSTOMERS, AND TELL THEM WHAT THEY ASK OPENLY AND HONESTLY'.
เป็นสมาชิกตั้งแต่ Jul 20, 2019   373 โพสต์
Jun 26, 2020 at 08:58
CryptoLife786 posted:
robvdmeer posted:
Hi CriptoLife786,

Can you indicate which EA is attractive? They don't fake you, the account is absolutely correct. They take great risks that can be seen in history. They do this to show what is possible. But hey 3% per month at which bank do you get that? If you study their account the way you do, you will see what you get. Anyway I'm curious about your better system.

 I am not talking about profits, i am talking about Claims, when i was about to buy they said ' Run the standard setting and you will get the same results of our live account ' , well i did run and my results were not same as them, trades were identical, but gains were not so I emailed them again they said ' We are running at 100% risk of our deposit, we donot recommend you do that and run 35% risk' , If i Run with 35 % risk i get 2-3 % profit which is not that claimed, They lied and cheated , its not about profits.

and about banks and stuff, buddy there are some systems who give 5-10% gains and are running for more then 3 years, The whole point is ' YOU SHOULDN'T MIS GUIDE YOUR CUSTOMERS, AND TELL THEM WHAT THEY ASK OPENLY AND HONESTLY'.

I don't think they really lied. Look on their results from January to April (see attached screenshots): 1.9% - 4% profit/month, more than 35% drawdown.
And with a different broker you can never get the exact same results as the original system. Every broker works different (with spreads, slippage, margin etc.).

But yeah, everyone needs to test and check things first. That's why I recommend people to ask for EA's with a free testing period or a 100% money back guarantee (e.g. via Paypal business payment). Never ever blindly buy good looking things and hope it will be some kind of a holy grail. 😉

ไฟล์แนบ :

patience is the key
เป็นสมาชิกตั้งแต่ Jul 23, 2020   6 โพสต์
Jul 23, 2020 at 14:01
Please beaware, I am using this expert advisor they blocked me from commenting, DONOT BE FOOLED BY the straight line of equity/balance.

They turn off the Update as soon as they go into 20% D.D, if they recover from it which they normally have uptill they turn auto update on, thats why they have managed to hide the normal DRAWDOWNS.

This time they went into more then 45% of D.D so they turned auto update off, now as soon as the d.d is cleared up they have updated it again.

forex_trader_458057
เป็นสมาชิกตั้งแต่ Sep 07, 2017   15 โพสต์
Jul 24, 2020 at 14:54
CryptoLife786 posted:
robvdmeer posted:
Hi CriptoLife786,

Can you indicate which EA is attractive? They don't fake you, the account is absolutely correct. They take great risks that can be seen in history. They do this to show what is possible. But hey 3% per month at which bank do you get that? If you study their account the way you do, you will see what you get. Anyway I'm curious about your better system.

 I am not talking about profits, i am talking about Claims, when i was about to buy they said ' Run the standard setting and you will get the same results of our live account ' , well i did run and my results were not same as them, trades were identical, but gains were not so I emailed them again they said ' We are running at 100% risk of our deposit, we donot recommend you do that and run 35% risk' , If i Run with 35 % risk i get 2-3 % profit which is not that claimed, They lied and cheated , its not about profits.

and about banks and stuff, buddy there are some systems who give 5-10% gains and are running for more then 3 years, The whole point is ' YOU SHOULDN'T MIS GUIDE YOUR CUSTOMERS, AND TELL THEM WHAT THEY ASK OPENLY AND HONESTLY'.
Hello CriptoLife786!
I am sorry, that you are got not what you expected. Please contact our support department and they gladly l help you to set the risk settings, that will bring you the profitability, that you are want to have.

We never claimed that the profitability of the system will be the same as ours with the default settings of 35% risks. You can even see, that we had even bigger floating drawdown on our account then 35%.
We never lie about the profitability of inControl system and if clients ask us, we always openly telling them what is the profitability according to different risks. Our support always says, that you will get the same trades at your account, as we have on our own (official account). This is the main thing that usually is matters for our customers. When trades are the same, your profitability just depends on the risks you use and all it in your hands. Yes, we recommend not to trade with all the deposit, because the security of your investments is matters for us. Some scammers EAs have good trading results and when you trade with it at your account, you get absolutely different trades compared to their official account, and your trading not profitable. In our case it's impossible and profitability depends on risks that you are willing to bear - it couldn't be in another way.
I would also like to draw your attention to the fact that the profitability of the system can vary from month to month - you also can see it at our account.
forex_trader_458057
เป็นสมาชิกตั้งแต่ Sep 07, 2017   15 โพสต์
Jul 24, 2020 at 15:27
bulldozer420 posted:
Please beaware, I am using this expert advisor they blocked me from commenting, DONOT BE FOOLED BY the straight line of equity/balance.

They turn off the Update as soon as they go into 20% D.D, if they recover from it which they normally have uptill they turn auto update on, thats why they have managed to hide the normal DRAWDOWNS.

This time they went into more then 45% of D.D so they turned auto update off, now as soon as the d.d is cleared up they have updated it again.


Hello bulldozer420!
Can you provide your email (you can do it in a personal message) so we will be able to identify you as our customer?
You have described some conspiracy theory about us, but fortunately for us 😄 , and unfortunately for you - it does not correspond to reality.
When Myfxbook calculates the drawdown index, it takes the history of trades, quotes history, and compared it all, to calculate exactly accurate drawdown. It doesn't matter when you add the account to myfxbook or did you pause the updating - it will always calculate right drawdown. All these facts that I described, could be easily confirmed by myfxbook support - feel free to contact them about that.
I hope it's just a misunderstanding on your part and now we have with you, everything will be fine 😄

P.S. If what you did announce here, were true, will we allow to show a drawdown of 38% (if we are bad guys as you said)? I think we would prefer to make a drawdown of 15% and never exceed it 😁
เป็นสมาชิกตั้งแต่ Jul 23, 2020   6 โพสต์
Jul 29, 2020 at 13:03
FXinControl posted:
bulldozer420 posted:
Please beaware, I am using this expert advisor they blocked me from commenting, DONOT BE FOOLED BY the straight line of equity/balance.

They turn off the Update as soon as they go into 20% D.D, if they recover from it which they normally have uptill they turn auto update on, thats why they have managed to hide the normal DRAWDOWNS.

This time they went into more then 45% of D.D so they turned auto update off, now as soon as the d.d is cleared up they have updated it again.


Hello bulldozer420!
Can you provide your email (you can do it in a personal message) so we will be able to identify you as our customer?
You have described some conspiracy theory about us, but fortunately for us 😄 , and unfortunately for you - it does not
correspond to reality.
When Myfxbook calculates the drawdown index, it takes the history of trades, quotes history, and compared it all, to calculate exactly accurate drawdown. It doesn't matter when you add the account to myfxbook or did you pause the updating - it will always calculate right drawdown. All these facts that I described, could be easily confirmed by myfxbook support - feel free to contact them about that.
I hope it's just a misunderstanding on your part and now we have with you, everything will be fine 😄

P.S. If what you did announce here, were true, will we allow to show a drawdown of 38% (if we are bad guys as you said)? I think we would prefer to make a drawdown of 15% and never exceed it 😁



Then can you explain whenever you go into DRAWDOWN why your account stops updating?
Yes it shows max 38% D.D it is because you got sloppy, your D.D'S are not visible in fxbook account and all we see is a straight equity/balance curve, in reality your trades go into 10-20% D.D on average which we cannot see in Fxbook.

Now the only logical explanation is which i observed myself is you stop the updating and when the D.D is cleared up you start it again, some how its working for your account, and fxbook is not even considering your usual drawdowns but only the max drawdown even that is not visible if we click on drawdowns in your official account.

So the question is ' WHY DO YOU STOP UPDATES' ??????
เป็นสมาชิกตั้งแต่ Mar 11, 2020   1 โพสต์
Aug 10, 2020 at 00:27
Why does backtesting not work with M30 TF? Keeps saying to use 1H but your BT example is using M30?

2020.08.10 08:07:06.472 2020.06.12 11:30:00 Forex inControl Full AUDUSD,M30: Alert: You are able to make backtest only on H1 Period
forex_trader_458057
เป็นสมาชิกตั้งแต่ Sep 07, 2017   15 โพสต์
Sep 01, 2020 at 14:17 (แก้ไขแล้ว Sep 01, 2020 at 14:18)
bulldozer420 posted:
FXinControl posted:
bulldozer420 posted:
Please beaware, I am using this expert advisor they blocked me from commenting, DONOT BE FOOLED BY the straight line of equity/balance.

They turn off the Update as soon as they go into 20% D.D, if they recover from it which they normally have uptill they turn auto update on, thats why they have managed to hide the normal DRAWDOWNS.

This time they went into more then 45% of D.D so they turned auto update off, now as soon as the d.d is cleared up they have updated it again.


Hello bulldozer420!
Can you provide your email (you can do it in a personal message) so we will be able to identify you as our customer?
You have described some conspiracy theory about us, but fortunately for us 😄 , and unfortunately for you - it does not
correspond to reality.
When Myfxbook calculates the drawdown index, it takes the history of trades, quotes history, and compared it all, to calculate exactly accurate drawdown. It doesn't matter when you add the account to myfxbook or did you pause the updating - it will always calculate right drawdown. All these facts that I described, could be easily confirmed by myfxbook support - feel free to contact them about that.
I hope it's just a misunderstanding on your part and now we have with you, everything will be fine 😄

P.S. If what you did announce here, were true, will we allow to show a drawdown of 38% (if we are bad guys as you said)? I think we would prefer to make a drawdown of 15% and never exceed it 😁



Then can you explain whenever you go into DRAWDOWN why your account stops updating?
Yes it shows max 38% D.D it is because you got sloppy, your D.D'S are not visible in fxbook account and all we see is a straight equity/balance curve, in reality your trades go into 10-20% D.D on average which we cannot see in Fxbook.

Now the only logical explanation is which i observed myself is you stop the updating and when the D.D is cleared up you start it again, some how its working for your account, and fxbook is not even considering your usual drawdowns but only the max drawdown even that is not visible if we click on drawdowns in your official account.

So the question is ' WHY DO YOU STOP UPDATES' ??????

Hello,
Sometimes we can stop updating because of some technical work or sometimes we have in-house reason to do it. How exactly drawdown is calculated and showing here is depends on the myfxbook, not from our actions. Following your logic, our account must be stopped updating for almost all the time. You can't see floating drawdown at graph because myfxbook for some reason can't determinate it. Possibly because of the way how our robot works and we are not an exception - there is much monitoring of trading systems, that have no floating drawdown graph. Anyway, if this could be helped us somehow make lower drawdown, our drawdown would be shown as 17%, like it is in our MT4 history - I have attached a screenshot.



forex_trader_458057
เป็นสมาชิกตั้งแต่ Sep 07, 2017   15 โพสต์
Sep 01, 2020 at 14:25
nogster posted:
Why does backtesting not work with M30 TF? Keeps saying to use 1H but your BT example is using M30?

2020.08.10 08:07:06.472 2020.06.12 11:30:00 Forex inControl Full AUDUSD,M30: Alert: You are able to make backtest only on H1 Period

Hello nogster,
For our robot, it's no matter what TimeFrame to use - it could be any because we coded it inside our EA. But some of our clients kept asking us -'but which one is better?', that is why we have specified only one as recommended (H1), so our clients could be calm that they use the best TF 😄
forex_trader_458057
เป็นสมาชิกตั้งแต่ Sep 07, 2017   15 โพสต์
Nov 26, 2020 at 16:28
Afron posted:
Yes, they often do this on several of their EAs because they use a grid or martingale strategy!

Hello, I just will copy our respond on this, because I think you didn't read it.

When Myfxbook calculates the drawdown index, it takes the history of trades, quotes history, and compared it all, to calculate exactly accurate drawdown. It doesn't matter when you add the account to myfxbook or did you pause the updating - it will always calculate right drawdown. All these facts that I described, could be easily confirmed by myfxbook support - feel free to contact them about that.

P.S. If pause of monitoring updating could make lower drawdown, will we allow to show a drawdown of 38% (if we are bad guys as you said)? I think we would prefer to make a drawdown of 15% and never exceed it 😁
เป็นสมาชิกตั้งแต่ Feb 05, 2015   9 โพสต์
Jan 15, 2021 at 11:04
I wouldn't say you're bad guys but when you pause the monitoring and manually manage the account, did you inform some of using the EA. I got maximum loss on my account on 17th Dec as the EA complete a cycle. Manually managing it to depict the EA as not failing is a wrong presentation of the capability of the EA.
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