Bogie-HedgeHog-v4g (tarafından wackena)

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Feb 26, 2010 at 16:16
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Dec 28, 2009 zamanından beri üye   60 iletiler
Mar 19, 2010 at 16:42
i found this here https://www.forexmt4.com/mt_yahoo/Bogie-HedgeHog-v21.mq4
is this the same?
could you pls explain ..what is the strategy.. ok i know its written hedge hog but more precisely...?
Sep 23, 2009 zamanından beri üye   125 iletiler
Mar 19, 2010 at 16:58

Pipper27 posted:
    
wackena posted:
    
fxdrive posted:
    You've got an impressive equity curve - nice.

Don't you get worried on days like today when your 5K down?

You don't appear to have had a day when you get stopped out yet. What is your stop loss set to? Just wondering how much could get wiped out on a bad day.

Thanks.

StopLoss=150, so a full loss would be ~25%.

Wackena, you mentioned that a full loss would be 25%, however, it ic currently in a larger drawdown then 25% and some of the trades are in over 150 pips drawdown. Could you pls. comment on how the 150 stop works (is it only on the 3rd and 4th trades). Because 150 or 250 stop on a Martingale (say on trade #4) could wipe out more then a 150 or 250 stop on the first trade when the number of lots is smaller. Your feedback is really appreciated. Best regards.
StopLoss is only set on last trade. When trades are in profit, then TrailingStop can modify TP & SL. At time of this message, DD on last 4th trade is -81 pips.
"Steady Equity Growth" is the name of the game.
Sep 23, 2009 zamanından beri üye   125 iletiler
Mar 19, 2010 at 17:05
Hi Wackena,

Thanks for sharing you knowledge and experience with us. I have another question, it might be silly :)

The GMToffset string, when do you need it? I use and UK based broker (GMT) and my PC is in GMT+1. Do i need to use V4f with GMToffset = 1?

Thanks!

In v3f and v4f, the GMTOffSet needs to be set to your Broker's GMT. If you broker is GMT, then set GMTOffSet=0.
"Steady Equity Growth" is the name of the game.
Sep 23, 2009 zamanından beri üye   125 iletiler
Mar 19, 2010 at 17:07
Wakena, thank you for your help.
Are the following settings correct for a five digits account
- stoploss2 = 2500 (2500 for version v4)
- stoploss = 1500 (1750 for v4)
- trailingstop = 590 (720 for v4)
Bests regards

No, you should upgrade to v4e or v4f.
"Steady Equity Growth" is the name of the game.
Mar 18, 2010 zamanından beri üye   6 iletiler
Mar 19, 2010 at 19:52
Hi Wackena

what is best leverage you recommend to use for your EA strategy?

Reagrds,
Anthony
Mar 18, 2010 zamanından beri üye   10 iletiler
Mar 19, 2010 at 20:47
Hi, v4f no longer has the 131 error. jut as you said. thanks

Today it traded several time, but it fired very large trades that lead to margin calls (see one of them below):
2010.03.19 13:30:31 Bogie-HedgeHog-v4f USDCHF,M15: Sell order opened : 1.06
2010.03.19 13:30:31 Bogie-HedgeHog-v4f USDCHF,M15: open #22191646 sell 23.30 USDCHF at 1.06003 ok
2010.03.18 22:48:29 Bogie-HedgeHog-v4f USDCHF,M15 inputs: INFO=' Bogie-HedgeHog-v3 '; GMTOffSet=1; DaysOpen=7; StopLoss2=250; step=0.21; BarPeriod=0; MATrendPeriod=2; MA_Mode=0; MA_Price=0; sb='--TRADE SETTING--'; Lots=0.1; multiply=2; MaxTrades=4; StopLoss=150; TrailingStop=59; MM='--MOney Management--'; MMSwicth='if one the lots size will increase based on account size'; mm=1; riskset='risk to calculate the lots size (only if mm is enabled)'; risk=10; accounttypes='0 if Normal Lots, 1 for mini lots, 2 for micro lots'; Acco

Whilst it was setup on a 10k account, on its won, I did not expect the EA to trade 23.3 lots of standard size (account type =0). Is this normal?

Thanks for your input.
hmm...
Sep 23, 2009 zamanından beri üye   125 iletiler
Mar 19, 2010 at 21:31

Anthony_M posted:
    Hi Wackena

what is best leverage you recommend to use for your EA strategy?

Reagrds,
Anthony
All my testing, demo and live trading has been 1:100 leverage.
"Steady Equity Growth" is the name of the game.
Sep 23, 2009 zamanından beri üye   125 iletiler
Mar 19, 2010 at 21:34

gemereno posted:
    Hi, v4f no longer has the 131 error. jut as you said. thanks

Today it traded several time, but it fired very large trades that lead to margin calls (see one of them below):
2010.03.19 13:30:31 Bogie-HedgeHog-v4f USDCHF,M15: Sell order opened : 1.06
2010.03.19 13:30:31 Bogie-HedgeHog-v4f USDCHF,M15: open #22191646 sell 23.30 USDCHF at 1.06003 ok
2010.03.18 22:48:29 Bogie-HedgeHog-v4f USDCHF,M15 inputs: INFO=' Bogie-HedgeHog-v3 '; GMTOffSet=1; DaysOpen=7; StopLoss2=250; step=0.21; BarPeriod=0; MATrendPeriod=2; MA_Mode=0; MA_Price=0; sb='--TRADE SETTING--'; Lots=0.1; multiply=2; MaxTrades=4; StopLoss=150; TrailingStop=59; MM='--MOney Management--'; MMSwicth='if one the lots size will increase based on account size'; mm=1; riskset='risk to calculate the lots size (only if mm is enabled)'; risk=10; accounttypes='0 if Normal Lots, 1 for mini lots, 2 for micro lots'; Acco

Whilst it was setup on a 10k account, on its won, I did not expect the EA to trade 23.3 lots of standard size (account type =0). Is this normal?

Thanks for your input.
Read the variable descriptions in the beginning of the EA code.
AccountType=0 - minimum lot step is 1.0
AccountType=1 - Minimum lot step is 0.1
AccountType=2 - minimum lot step is 0.01.
"Steady Equity Growth" is the name of the game.
Feb 20, 2010 zamanından beri üye   152 iletiler
Mar 20, 2010 at 08:08
Hey Wackena and friends,

I assuming this EA does not use hedging? If so, has anyone thought about adding hedging ability?

Also, any thoughts about the ability of this EA to work with other currencies, like Euro Yen, Cable, etc.?

Wackena, you the man,

Thanks for your wonderful gift
A strategy must significantly profit in a 10 year backtest to have a chance in Live trading - Mine Does!
Mar 18, 2010 zamanından beri üye   9 iletiler
Mar 20, 2010 at 17:41

SunnyDays posted:
    Hey Wackena and friends,

I assuming this EA does not use hedging? If so, has anyone thought about adding hedging ability?

Also, any thoughts about the ability of this EA to work with other currencies, like Euro Yen, Cable, etc.?

Wackena, you the man,

Thanks for your wonderful gift
Wayne, yes, I am thinking about it now actually. That's the key which would make this EA successful in a long term, but it is a difficult task to find something which hedges the whole exposure or a large % of it. I am sure that Wackena and the individuals who made this EA have already tried finding ways to do this.
Mar 13, 2010 zamanından beri üye   23 iletiler
Mar 20, 2010 at 17:58
I was thinking about a strategy that runs a parallel trending robot on the same pairs, while reducing the risk% on each pair. If the market runs, then the trending robot might cancel much of the martingale loss.
Feb 20, 2010 zamanından beri üye   152 iletiler
Mar 20, 2010 at 18:19
Not being familiar with what the EA does yet, let me ask a very simplistic question: If the EA sends out a single to go short and after being in the short position and let's say, down, 200 pips, if a signal is sent out to now go long, will the EA also enter the long here while holding the short, or must the short hit its stop, etc. and close the position before the long signal can be acted on?

This is the simple idea i had in mind when talking about hedging.
A strategy must significantly profit in a 10 year backtest to have a chance in Live trading - Mine Does!
Mar 17, 2010 zamanından beri üye   4 iletiler
Mar 20, 2010 at 20:22
Hi Wackena,

Probably the question is a bit absurd,
I have realized several tests, ( v4b), during the year 2009, 2010,
And the results are very good, spectacular,
Nevertheless, and after optimizing previous periods,
For example, 2007 for 2008, I do not find valid parameters
Later the first semester 2008 and test of the second semester of the same year, I do not manage to obtain result positives,
Have you some idea?
Probably this EA, this one very optimized for the period 2009?
I am a bit disconcerted,

Thank you
Sep 04, 2009 zamanından beri üye   879 iletiler
Mar 20, 2010 at 20:59

Don't trade live a marty system when it doesn't survive a full 10 year backtest and random backtests with the same setting!

 Margin call waits right around the next corner...😝
Mar 18, 2010 zamanından beri üye   9 iletiler
Mar 20, 2010 at 21:21

SunnyDays posted:
    Not being familiar with what the EA does yet, let me ask a very simplistic question: If the EA sends out a single to go short and after being in the short position and let's say, down, 200 pips, if a signal is sent out to now go long, will the EA also enter the long here while holding the short, or must the short hit its stop, etc. and close the position before the long signal can be acted on?

This is the simple idea i had in mind when talking about hedging.

Wayne, it seems that it will not take the trades opposite an existing position (meaning that it will wait to get in profit or get stopped out first.) you could hedge this way, but it will only reduce your risk in very minimal way compared to the negative balance you would be running on your last martingale trades (like trade 3 and 4).
Sep 04, 2009 zamanından beri üye   879 iletiler
Mar 20, 2010 at 23:17
No matter, hedge or no hedge, the basic issue of marty systems remains.. U need a big account to be safe.
This one is with hedges https://www.myfxbook.com/members/pc8multifx/pc-e-u-max-ocm/4439
Dec 31, 2009 zamanından beri üye   141 iletiler
Mar 21, 2010 at 01:43
If you like hedging check out https://www.myfxbook.com/members/tbuitendyk/volatility-trader-rel3c-live/21903

Positions are generally heavily hedged and it's put 3100 pips in the bank in 13 days.

t.
Gear on the left...
Mar 18, 2010 zamanından beri üye   9 iletiler
Mar 21, 2010 at 04:06

pc8multifx posted:
    No matter, hedge or no hedge, the basic issue of marty systems remains.. U need a big account to be safe.
This one is with hedges https://www.myfxbook.com/members/pc8multifx/pc-e-u-max-ocm/4439

Yep. That's the only way you can do it in the long term. Huge account, small gains. That is the only way so far that I know of. There is no free lunch, even in Forex.
Mar 18, 2010 zamanından beri üye   9 iletiler
Mar 21, 2010 at 04:08
That being said though, I do hope that Wackena comes back with this one. Best of luck to you Wackena.
Sep 04, 2009 zamanından beri üye   879 iletiler
Mar 21, 2010 at 05:01

Pipper27 posted:
    
pc8multifx posted:
    No matter, hedge or no hedge, the basic issue of marty systems remains.. U need a big account to be safe.
This one is with hedges https://www.myfxbook.com/members/pc8multifx/pc-e-u-max-ocm/4439

Yep. That's the only way you can do it in the long term. Huge account, small gains. That is the only way so far that I know of. There is no free lunch, even in Forex.

Small gains? Aiming for 50% ROI per year beats G.Soros best performance by far...😎
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