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Sep 29, 2012 at 10:29
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会员从Mar 19, 2012开始   82帖子
Oct 04, 2012 at 08:53
Hi,

Do you share this EA? Is it private only or are you going to sell it? I read your web page, but I could not find out. Maybe my english skills are to blame.

All the best,

Vi
ForexScam
forex_trader_32776
会员从Mar 28, 2011开始   1008帖子
Oct 15, 2012 at 09:59
Thankis for the interest Vi. I hope you like it =)

Current Setting on $100k Demo

Leverage 100:1 - Max Orders 100
Pairs Traded - USDCHF - EURUSD - USDCAD - AUDUSD - GBPJPY
The other currency pairs has been stopped due to the 100 Max Open Orders

Setting:
Baselotsize = 0.01
MaxOrderLevel = 15
SuperCharge = True
UseLogic = 0 // -- No value is needed for UseLogic when SuperCharge in On
SafeMode = 10
SafeModeLogic = 5

Experimenting with Short/Long Cycles.

All Grid Settings are Dynamic. Normally ShortCycles are around 10 -30 pips and LongCycles 50 - 100 depending on Market Volatility.

Learn More Here - https://www.pipinvestment.com/forex-identity-ea
会员从Jun 24, 2012开始   69帖子
Oct 20, 2012 at 01:31
If I uses 5 pairs as you, by 0.01 lots standard, how much money I need?

Thanks
会员从Jun 24, 2012开始   69帖子
Oct 20, 2012 at 02:41
I really want to know how much money needed for this EA to run?, Any backtest ?


Also

You should also add some IB broker on your webpages, it is small money, but after few months, they will not be small money and enough to pay for some small expense.


会员从May 15, 2012开始   247帖子
Oct 20, 2012 at 10:42
using such small pipsteps and aggressive martiangale and pairs you need at least 100k account to survive..... market is ranging so wait for real trends and watch DD..... had that before using wider pipstep and less pairs..... sry
ForexScam
forex_trader_32776
会员从Mar 28, 2011开始   1008帖子
Oct 21, 2012 at 09:10
@ Ricky - Please read about the MarginRequired Formula here - https://www.pipinvestment.com/forex-identity-ea

The amount of MaxOrderLevels, Levarage, and BaseLotSize can be used to determine a Deposit Amount PER PAIR Scenario.

$100,000 with 0.01 Micro lots on 5 pairs will match this Demo in Monthly Return and Drawdown. $50,000 would double the monthly return and Drawdown. The Leverage Available is also very important if you start with less than $100,000. For example, This Account operates on 100:1. You can start off with $50k on 200:1 Leverage if you can stomach the higher floating Drawdown. The higher the Leverage, the safer you will be.

MUST READ --- Most Brokers have a Maximum Allowed Orders of 100, so we can only trade Forex Identity on several pairs ( depends on your MaximumOrderLevel) at a time. Even at 5 Pairs , I can reach the 100 Limit if I use more than a MaxOrderLevel greater than 10 ( I am using 15). If you have a MaxOrderLevel of 10 while trading 5 pairs, you can reach 100 Orders. However, this is very unlikely. It would require 10 Buy and 10 Sell orders opened across all 5 Pairs at once, but understanding this limitation is very important when configuing your portfolio.

Rebates - I highly encourage all participates of Forex Identity to use a Rebate Company for themselves. Learn More Here - https://www.pipinvestment.com/rebates -- The money/bonus/rebate should be yours and not mine. I'll make money trading with my robot and a small fee for the user license. Thank you though for the recommendation.

@Dirk - Thanks for joining the discussion. The GridStep is dynamic and based on current volatility whether you would like a Short or Long Cycle but overall without the Safety features all martingaleGrid systems are aggressive. The SafeMode feature will save the account on any swift market move. The sooner the SafeMode engages the faster the drawdown is minimized. Also, any user with trading knowledge can benefit with the 6 different trading logics from basics Candle > LastCandle to countertrend and longer term trend setting.

会员从Jun 24, 2012开始   69帖子
Oct 22, 2012 at 01:11 (已编辑 Oct 22, 2012 at 01:12)
Hi trick or Treat:

It is nice that you open all trades from your demo, I look at your history trades, I find that your EA has some strange functions, Should be good, but not 100% sure.

On today history, It had couple AUDUSD trades, It started with 0.01 lots, 0.02 lots 0.03 lots.. 0.14 lots, Suddently, It jumped to 2.4 lots then 4.2 lots, Is it supercharge = 0n?, it really boost income but not sure how much risk involve.

Also on Oct/16, Market was bad for grid martigale EA, it closed couple pair both buy basket as well as sell basket in lost but overall breakeven, Was it done by its safe fuctions?

by looking at the demo results, it is a great EA, For Grid martigale EA, Their results are quite close in Demo and real account, so I would like to try it.

However, It is little bit confuse to understand how much fund it needed as Forex Envy User.

My understand is that.
If I uses Dollar, standard account/0.01 lots, I need $100,000 to get similar results as your demo.
If I uses Cent account /0.01 lots, I need $100,000 Cents = $1000 Dollar to get similar results as your demo.

I am thinking to put it $1000 in Cents account to try it, Will it be enough money, My broker allows max micro lots 200, small lots 0.01.

I am looking for other EA than Forex Envy, Forex Envy is very aggressive, Its DD can suddenly go really high and might blown up, I am looking for other EA more safer even with less return so it can double their money before blown up account.






ForexScam
forex_trader_32776
会员从Mar 28, 2011开始   1008帖子
Oct 22, 2012 at 04:43
Great Questions and thank you for looking at the Trade history. I was waiting patiently/hoping someone would ask these questions.

AUDUSD - I closed these large Lots out manually:

1.) Forex Identity has the ability to have ANY trade closed and the Basket TP will reset automatically for the rest of the trades. This will allow us to close any Large/ Risky Lotsize at Profit IF we are watching our accounts. The benefit that I see in this ability is future features. ( I'll keep it a secret for now)
2.) If we close the Highest Level ( largest Lot Size) at profit manually , we now have an opportunity to have the same Lot size open again, allowing multiple High level trades being closed out before the main basket is closed on the retracement. It is just an option for anyone watching their account and yes they can benefit from this because Most profit is generated at these higher Levels.

Oct 16 - I closed all baskets, and uploaded the latest Edition of Forex Identity.

SuperCharge - Allows any of the 6 Trading logics to Enter a trade once the Grid Distance is confirmed. ( Trades more like a standard Grid)

SafeMode - Decreases Basket TP , Slows down Trading Frequency ( Central bank intervention, Huge CHF Spike JPY Spike - Your account won't BLOW like Forex Envy's Short/Long Cycle in these cases). - And SafeMode will change the Logic to desired SafeModeLogic and turn off SuperCharge Automatically. By adding this Feature, Forex Identity is profitable through the Financial Crisis in 2008.

Cent Accounts - ( 200 Max Orders - $1000 - 0.01 ) YES, perfect setup. What broker will you use?

Thanks for the questions.

Will
www.pipinvestment.com


 
会员从May 15, 2012开始   247帖子
Oct 22, 2012 at 07:10
send you an alternative
ForexScam
forex_trader_32776
会员从Mar 28, 2011开始   1008帖子
Oct 23, 2012 at 06:50
Account Capital Requirements:

STD Accounts - ECN Spreads
$100k on 100:1 Leverage with 0.01 Micro Lots will match this account
$50k on 200:1 Leverage with 0.01 Micro Lots - Double the Drawdown and Monthly Gain
$25k on 500:1 Leverage with 0.01 Micro Lots - 4 Times the Drawdown ( Insane) and 4 times the Monthly Gain

Cent Accounts - 1 Pip == 0.01 Cent
$1000 = 100,000 Cent on 100:1 Leverage will match this account
$500 = 50,000 Cent on 200:1 Leverage - Double the Drawdown and Monthly Gain
$250 = 25,000 Cent on 500:1 Leverage - 4 Times the Drawdown ( Insane) and 4 times the Monthly Gain

Cent Accounts normally offer more leverage and this can be beneficial to you. You will have more FreeMargin allowing additional Pairs if the Broker allows more than 100 Orders.

If you don't have the required Capital as mentioned above, Forex Identity has a lot of options to run at smaller balances. For Example:

1.) Decrease the MaxOrderLevel
2.) Engage SafeMode sooner
3.) Only use Long Cycles and if you decide to use Short Cycles, Only use 1/2 of the MaxOrderLevel that you would normally use with the Long Cycles. This will keep the Lots very Small.
4.) Do not use SuperCharge or Logic 0: use the Trending or CounterTrend Logic on M15 - M30 - H1 Charts
5.) Trade Less Pairs.

会员从Jul 29, 2011开始   25帖子
Oct 23, 2012 at 07:58
Can you please open the trade history and other relevant information on the real money accounts? I am not interested in demo stats but in real stats ;)
会员从Sep 10, 2012开始   13帖子
Oct 23, 2012 at 20:41
I see that you have a frankenstein and FID in your trade comments, are they both the same EA? or are you running 2 separate? Is it possible to replicate the same results on backtest with just FID?
No loss is too great until you lost your mind.
会员从Jun 24, 2012开始   69帖子
Oct 23, 2012 at 23:41
Thanks for your reply with detail funding requirement, I am user of Forex Envy, It is very complicated to compare 1:100 to 1:500 account for live account, They behave quite different with different EA.

I am very new in FX world for few months.

For 100,000 Cents = $1000 account with 1:100 margin, For Forex Envy live trading, I might be wrong, it will have same results as 65,000 cents=$650 account using 1:500 margin or higher with slightly less Drawdown

Just make it simple, Higher margin account is better with slightly more return and slightly less drawdown.

Cent account broker are not very good broker, I have both cent accounts in 3 broker, Trade-fort (50% bonus), Xemarket(30% rescue fake bonus), FXopen cents ( one time, $100 cash for 1000 microlot).

Trade-fort is the best but their server is bad due to server down often problem.
Xemarket do not have server problem as Trade-fort but their Bonus are fake money
Fxopen Cents account is heavy market making on price, for some reason, It filter out some price spike which is good for Grid martigale EA but its spread on some pairs are very high on AUDNZD = 20 pips while Pepperstone's spread is 4 pips.

Most brokers are improving their service, They will be change.

I would like to wait for 1 or 2 more week due to many big news will be out this week, I would like to see how this EA behave with this News before I buy it.
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ForexScam posted:
Account Capital Requirements:

STD Accounts - ECN Spreads
$100k on 100:1 Leverage with 0.01 Micro Lots will match this account
$50k on 200:1 Leverage with 0.01 Micro Lots - Double the Drawdown and Monthly Gain
$25k on 500:1 Leverage with 0.01 Micro Lots - 4 Times the Drawdown ( Insane) and 4 times the Monthly Gain

Cent Accounts - 1 Pip == 0.01 Cent
$1000 = 100,000 Cent on 100:1 Leverage will match this account
$500 = 50,000 Cent on 200:1 Leverage - Double the Drawdown and Monthly Gain
$250 = 25,000 Cent on 500:1 Leverage - 4 Times the Drawdown ( Insane) and 4 times the Monthly Gain

Cent Accounts normally offer more leverage and this can be beneficial to you. You will have more FreeMargin allowing additional Pairs if the Broker allows more than 100 Orders.

If you don't have the required Capital as mentioned above, Forex Identity has a lot of options to run at smaller balances. For Example:

1.) Decrease the MaxOrderLevel
2.) Engage SafeMode sooner
3.) Only use Long Cycles and if you decide to use Short Cycles, Only use 1/2 of the MaxOrderLevel that you would normally use with the Long Cycles. This will keep the Lots very Small.
4.) Do not use SuperCharge or Logic 0: use the Trending or CounterTrend Logic on M15 - M30 - H1 Charts
5.) Trade Less Pairs.

ForexScam
forex_trader_32776
会员从Mar 28, 2011开始   1008帖子
Oct 24, 2012 at 02:39
@deathlord - No. my test accounts are using the next unreleased version. Always beta testing.
@PureLife - Same EA . Starting out as FrankNstiend, then renamed it to Forex Identity. backtest will match besides a few trades I closed manually to test the auto calculation of basket Takeprofit.
@Rickyv101 - Smaller the Balance, More Drawdown. Larger the Leverage will give you the same Monthly return and DD as with less leverage but the benefit of using more leverage can prevent a margin call if the user is running on More pairs and or with a Higher MaxOrderLevel

Backtesting Beta Users Wanted: Please download the EA here - https://www.pipinvestment.com/forex-identity

Follow the instructions. Send me the CID. I'll activate the license. I'll write an article later today describing the backtesting steps and what we're trying to do with the BackTesting results.

Also by sharing the EA for Backtesting, I can gather FeedBack and make this EA even better than it is now. Thanks for the Help. Much Appreciated.
rob559
forex_trader_29148
会员从Feb 11, 2011开始   1916帖子
Oct 24, 2012 at 03:08
good work ,this ea sounds great ,starting beta soon
ForexScam
forex_trader_32776
会员从Mar 28, 2011开始   1008帖子
Oct 24, 2012 at 04:11
thanks rob - here is the article with backtesting instructions . If there is something I overlooked, please let me know and I'll update the article.

https://www.pipinvestment.com/software/forex-identity-backtesting
会员从Jul 29, 2011开始   25帖子
Oct 24, 2012 at 06:05 (已编辑 Oct 24, 2012 at 06:06)
Feel free to open another live account with the current version. But you should be willing to provide at least one live account.

If not, well ... moving on. Not interested in another demo-hyped EA that will not be able to duplicate its performance live.
ForexScam
forex_trader_32776
会员从Mar 28, 2011开始   1008帖子
Oct 25, 2012 at 17:58
7 Year Dukascopy Data Backtest Uploaded here - https://www.myfxbook.com/strategies/forex-identity-safemode--8/26229

会员从Jul 02, 2012开始   127帖子
Oct 26, 2012 at 07:40
Looks like an interesting EA. I'll also start beta-testing soon. However, I must say, I'll need something a little more convincing than a 150% gain after 7 years of trading.
ForexScam
forex_trader_32776
会员从Mar 28, 2011开始   1008帖子
Oct 26, 2012 at 09:14
@richbugger . Keep in Mind GBPUSD Dropped over 6000 PIPS in a few months in 2008 from the Financial Crisis. When developing Forex Identity I solely focused on this market condition to see if it is possible to build a Martingale Grid that can survive this Event.

Forex Identity is designed to withstand Volatility and be able to survive unexpected market events without intervention. The Backtest produced an average of 12% a year which is an excellent return even with a max DD of 30% during the financial crisis.

Forex Identity can produce much higher returns with different setting, but of course the DD will be higher and most likely crash during the 2008 Backtest. Martingale Grids are known for Big Gains and Blown Accounts, I'd like to find a middle ground between these two.

Also , I have a feature (SafeModeLogic) that will change the internal logic when market conditions change and by doing so with a few other features ( SafeMode + SuperCharge ) we can trade aggressively to achieve large gains while incorporating a safety feature to prevent the blown accounts that Forex Envy is known for.

Thanks for being interested in the Beta Tester. I'm uploading another Update over the weekend.
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