Profit / loss analysis and trading talks
Membro Desde May 19, 2020
438 postagens
May 22 at 09:13
Raven1209 posted:About take profit and the classic “In order not to lose profit, I closed it earlier” I sincerely believe that this is not a big mistake, compared (for example) to closing loss without reaching a stop loss level. The situations are similar but actually lead to different consequences. I had such mistakes and I worked with them to eliminate them.
@MarcellusLux
Caught the price nudging past the TP after I closed out—classic, right?:) Though I was about 90% confident I'd hit that level eventually, but those 10% doubts...
Regarding the SL, it was more of a guideline—marked in red but not formally set. The price went close the first time (1.07931), but didn't reach the red line, and the second peak (1.07892) was even lower, which was reassuring. No major improvements to my strategy just yet since the profit was made. But definitely thinking about a more patient stance going forward.
@Marcellus8610
Membro Desde Sep 29, 2022
80 postagens
May 22 at 17:25
@khalidkhan82118 When it comes to deciding whether to hold out for more or take the current profit, it really comes down to my past trading experiences and what the market is showing me at the moment. I use a mix of looking at the charts and trusting my instincts to make these calls.
When I’m unsure about closing a position, I focus on what the market trends are telling me and stick to my original trading plan, but I’m ready to adjust if things change sharply.
Regarding my SL strategy, as I've already said, I prefer to use it as a flexible guideline rather than a strict rule. This way, I can adjust better to sudden market changes without getting kicked out of my position too early. It’s a bit riskier, but it often works out by letting my trades develop fully.
@MarcellusLux Thanks, Marcellus! I appreciate the kind words and your tips!
When I’m unsure about closing a position, I focus on what the market trends are telling me and stick to my original trading plan, but I’m ready to adjust if things change sharply.
Regarding my SL strategy, as I've already said, I prefer to use it as a flexible guideline rather than a strict rule. This way, I can adjust better to sudden market changes without getting kicked out of my position too early. It’s a bit riskier, but it often works out by letting my trades develop fully.
@MarcellusLux Thanks, Marcellus! I appreciate the kind words and your tips!
Membro Desde Dec 28, 2023
42 postagens
May 24 at 16:00
MarcellusLux posted:Why doesn't the absence of a stop loss make trading riskier? Most people say that placing a stop loss is necessary to minimize risk.Raven1209 posted:You come across as a prudent trader. I hope that your trading will reward you for your work. It's good practice to have a maximum possible risk level, and not having a set stop loss level programmatically does not make your trade any riskier.
@MarcellusLux
Caught the price nudging past the TP after I closed out—classic, right?:) Though I was about 90% confident I'd hit that level eventually, but those 10% doubts...
Regarding the SL, it was more of a guideline—marked in red but not formally set. The price went close the first time (1.07931), but didn't reach the red line, and the second peak (1.07892) was even lower, which was reassuring. No major improvements to my strategy just yet since the profit was made. But definitely thinking about a more patient stance going forward.
Membro Desde May 25, 2024
1 postagens
May 25 at 08:34
Gert12 posted:Not using a stop-loss can make trading riskier because it leaves your positions open to the full brunt of market volatility. Most traders agree that a stop loss is a critical safeguard, as it automatically exits a trade at a predefined loss threshold, helping to prevent emotional decision-making and protect your capital from significant downturns.MarcellusLux posted:Why doesn't the absence of a stop loss make trading riskier? Most people say that placing a stop loss is necessary to minimize risk.Raven1209 posted:You come across as a prudent trader. I hope that your trading will reward you for your work. It's good practice to have a maximum possible risk level, and not having a set stop loss level programmatically does not make your trade any riskier.
@MarcellusLux
Caught the price nudging past the TP after I closed out—classic, right?:) Though I was about 90% confident I'd hit that level eventually, but those 10% doubts...
Regarding the SL, it was more of a guideline—marked in red but not formally set. The price went close the first time (1.07931), but didn't reach the red line, and the second peak (1.07892) was even lower, which was reassuring. No major improvements to my strategy just yet since the profit was made. But definitely thinking about a more patient stance going forward.
Membro Desde May 23, 2024
19 postagens
May 27 at 07:00
RallyRider posted:Regarding stop loss, this is inevitable. Setting a stop loss is a necessary measure to minimize risk. This is the key to surviving in a one-sided market and will only allow your profits to continue to increase.Gert12 posted:Not using a stop-loss can make trading riskier because it leaves your positions open to the full brunt of market volatility. Most traders agree that a stop loss is a critical safeguard, as it automatically exits a trade at a predefined loss threshold, helping to prevent emotional decision-making and protect your capital from significant downturns.MarcellusLux posted:Why doesn't the absence of a stop loss make trading riskier? Most people say that placing a stop loss is necessary to minimize risk.Raven1209 posted:You come across as a prudent trader. I hope that your trading will reward you for your work. It's good practice to have a maximum possible risk level, and not having a set stop loss level programmatically does not make your trade any riskier.
@MarcellusLux
Caught the price nudging past the TP after I closed out—classic, right?:) Though I was about 90% confident I'd hit that level eventually, but those 10% doubts...
Regarding the SL, it was more of a guideline—marked in red but not formally set. The price went close the first time (1.07931), but didn't reach the red line, and the second peak (1.07892) was even lower, which was reassuring. No major improvements to my strategy just yet since the profit was made. But definitely thinking about a more patient stance going forward.
Membro Desde May 19, 2020
438 postagens
May 28 at 15:39
Gert12 posted:The use of stop losses is situational and can be justified or harmful during various market events.MarcellusLux posted:Why doesn't the absence of a stop loss make trading riskier? Most people say that placing a stop loss is necessary to minimize risk.Raven1209 posted:You come across as a prudent trader. I hope that your trading will reward you for your work. It's good practice to have a maximum possible risk level, and not having a set stop loss level programmatically does not make your trade any riskier.
@MarcellusLux
Caught the price nudging past the TP after I closed out—classic, right?:) Though I was about 90% confident I'd hit that level eventually, but those 10% doubts...
Regarding the SL, it was more of a guideline—marked in red but not formally set. The price went close the first time (1.07931), but didn't reach the red line, and the second peak (1.07892) was even lower, which was reassuring. No major improvements to my strategy just yet since the profit was made. But definitely thinking about a more patient stance going forward.
If a trader starts using stop loss in any case (using just for the fact of usage), this will lead to losses and cause dependence on stop levels. I consider a much more important aspect to be the correct assessment of probabilities and control of possible risk taking into account these probabilities.
If it seems to you that I am standing against using stop losses, then you are wrong. If you look at my trading, you will notice that I use this risk control option, but not on 100% of my trades.
@Marcellus8610
Membro Desde May 19, 2020
438 postagens
May 28 at 15:43
LUX trading today was quick and didn't follow any long term goals. The task was to catch the minimum impulse after the impact of key historical levels.
The EUR/USD was close to continuing to rise and I was ready to accept some drawdown, but the sell chosen due to a clear MACD signal on the 30-minute chart and a high RSI level in the overbought zone. The price was not ready to break through the key level of 1.08800 and consolidate for further testing of 1.08900.
The GBP/JPY is currently in a very promising position for continued growth. But I was not ready to hold the position for a long time, fearing the psychological aspect and the growth cancelling due to the approach to 70 RSI and the long term developing MACD divergence, which can be seen on the hourly chart. I opened a short-term position after several attempts to break through the 200.400 and MACD signal with a move to the positive value zone on the 15-minute chart. However, the important fact is that after breaking through the 2015 high key level at 196.00, GBP/JPY has not been at its current price level above the 200.00 mark since 2008.
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The EUR/USD was close to continuing to rise and I was ready to accept some drawdown, but the sell chosen due to a clear MACD signal on the 30-minute chart and a high RSI level in the overbought zone. The price was not ready to break through the key level of 1.08800 and consolidate for further testing of 1.08900.
The GBP/JPY is currently in a very promising position for continued growth. But I was not ready to hold the position for a long time, fearing the psychological aspect and the growth cancelling due to the approach to 70 RSI and the long term developing MACD divergence, which can be seen on the hourly chart. I opened a short-term position after several attempts to break through the 200.400 and MACD signal with a move to the positive value zone on the 15-minute chart. However, the important fact is that after breaking through the 2015 high key level at 196.00, GBP/JPY has not been at its current price level above the 200.00 mark since 2008.
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@Marcellus8610
Membro Desde Aug 19, 2021
244 postagens
May 28 at 17:38
Oh, if we have already talked about stop loss. I know other theory about SL. The more often you put a stop loss, the more often it works and you lose. 😄😄😄
Do I agree with this? Yes and no. But now SL more often saves me from big losses. lol
Do I agree with this? Yes and no. But now SL more often saves me from big losses. lol
Membro Desde May 10, 2023
48 postagens
May 30 at 09:42
MarcellusLux posted:Interesting take! rsi, macd, and ema are classic combinations of indicators that help achieve good accuracy in trading.
LUX trading today was quick and didn't follow any long term goals. The task was to catch the minimum impulse after the impact of key historical levels.
The EUR/USD was close to continuing to rise and I was ready to accept some drawdown, but the sell chosen due to a clear MACD signal on the 30-minute chart and a high RSI level in the overbought zone. The price was not ready to break through the key level of 1.08800 and consolidate for further testing of 1.08900.
The GBP/JPY is currently in a very promising position for continued growth. But I was not ready to hold the position for a long time, fearing the psychological aspect and the growth cancelling due to the approach to 70 RSI and the long term developing MACD divergence, which can be seen on the hourly chart. I opened a short-term position after several attempts to break through the 200.400 and MACD signal with a move to the positive value zone on the 15-minute chart. However, the important fact is that after breaking through the 2015 high key level at 196.00, GBP/JPY has not been at its current price level above the 200.00 mark since 2008.
https://www.myfxbook.com/files/MarcellusLux/recent_trades_May_28_%28IedYE8%29_for_LK.png
Membro Desde Sep 02, 2022
64 postagens
May 30 at 17:56
MarcellusLux posted:If you look in the short term, the pair reached the level of 200.00 and began a slight rebound downwards. But in the future I am betting on the growth of the GBPJPY.
LUX trading today was quick and didn't follow any long term goals. The task was to catch the minimum impulse after the impact of key historical levels.
The EUR/USD was close to continuing to rise and I was ready to accept some drawdown, but the sell chosen due to a clear MACD signal on the 30-minute chart and a high RSI level in the overbought zone. The price was not ready to break through the key level of 1.08800 and consolidate for further testing of 1.08900.
The GBP/JPY is currently in a very promising position for continued growth. But I was not ready to hold the position for a long time, fearing the psychological aspect and the growth cancelling due to the approach to 70 RSI and the long term developing MACD divergence, which can be seen on the hourly chart. I opened a short-term position after several attempts to break through the 200.400 and MACD signal with a move to the positive value zone on the 15-minute chart. However, the important fact is that after breaking through the 2015 high key level at 196.00, GBP/JPY has not been at its current price level above the 200.00 mark since 2008.
https://www.myfxbook.com/files/MarcellusLux/recent_trades_May_28_%28IedYE8%29_for_LK.png
Membro Desde May 31, 2024
8 postagens
May 31 at 10:15
'rsi, macd, and ema' are classically used indicators but I have never found them useful as predictive tools. They lag so much that they are worthless. I like price action only analysis
Membro Desde Jan 15, 2024
37 postagens
May 31 at 11:30
Any indicators are essentially a waste of time, with rare exceptions like MA. However, it's crucial to understand what you’re using these values for. The core focus should always be on events impacting prices.
Membro Desde Dec 28, 2023
42 postagens
Jun 03 at 12:13
ChaKie posted:Are there any other combinations of indicators?MarcellusLux posted:Interesting take! rsi, macd, and ema are classic combinations of indicators that help achieve good accuracy in trading.
LUX trading today was quick and didn't follow any long term goals. The task was to catch the minimum impulse after the impact of key historical levels.
The EUR/USD was close to continuing to rise and I was ready to accept some drawdown, but the sell chosen due to a clear MACD signal on the 30-minute chart and a high RSI level in the overbought zone. The price was not ready to break through the key level of 1.08800 and consolidate for further testing of 1.08900.
The GBP/JPY is currently in a very promising position for continued growth. But I was not ready to hold the position for a long time, fearing the psychological aspect and the growth cancelling due to the approach to 70 RSI and the long term developing MACD divergence, which can be seen on the hourly chart. I opened a short-term position after several attempts to break through the 200.400 and MACD signal with a move to the positive value zone on the 15-minute chart. However, the important fact is that after breaking through the 2015 high key level at 196.00, GBP/JPY has not been at its current price level above the 200.00 mark since 2008.
https://www.myfxbook.com/files/MarcellusLux/recent_trades_May_28_%28IedYE8%29_for_LK.png
Membro Desde Oct 31, 2022
2 postagens
Jun 03 at 13:19
lexusxxx posted:It feels like you trade without using indicators at all. How do you trade without indicators??MarcellusLux posted:If you look in the short term, the pair reached the level of 200.00 and began a slight rebound downwards. But in the future I am betting on the growth of the GBPJPY.
LUX trading today was quick and didn't follow any long term goals. The task was to catch the minimum impulse after the impact of key historical levels.
The EUR/USD was close to continuing to rise and I was ready to accept some drawdown, but the sell chosen due to a clear MACD signal on the 30-minute chart and a high RSI level in the overbought zone. The price was not ready to break through the key level of 1.08800 and consolidate for further testing of 1.08900.
The GBP/JPY is currently in a very promising position for continued growth. But I was not ready to hold the position for a long time, fearing the psychological aspect and the growth cancelling due to the approach to 70 RSI and the long term developing MACD divergence, which can be seen on the hourly chart. I opened a short-term position after several attempts to break through the 200.400 and MACD signal with a move to the positive value zone on the 15-minute chart. However, the important fact is that after breaking through the 2015 high key level at 196.00, GBP/JPY has not been at its current price level above the 200.00 mark since 2008.
https://www.myfxbook.com/files/MarcellusLux/recent_trades_May_28_%28IedYE8%29_for_LK.png
Membro Desde May 31, 2024
8 postagens
Jun 03 at 14:59
indicators can be helpful as long as you know their limitations and what they are really showing. The problem comes when people think that indicators produce trade signals
Membro Desde Aug 19, 2021
244 postagens
Jun 04 at 18:35
rightstufffred posted:Oh that’s right friend.
indicators can be helpful as long as you know their limitations and what they are really showing. The problem comes when people think that indicators produce trade signals
Membro Desde Sep 02, 2022
64 postagens
Jun 05 at 14:50
MarcellusLux posted:I agree with you. Personally, I am cautious about sl. I'm afraid I'll lose more than I could earn while it hesitates. I try not to put it anywhere now. Or rather, my EA does not put sl.Gert12 posted:The use of stop losses is situational and can be justified or harmful during various market events.MarcellusLux posted:Why doesn't the absence of a stop loss make trading riskier? Most people say that placing a stop loss is necessary to minimize risk.Raven1209 posted:You come across as a prudent trader. I hope that your trading will reward you for your work. It's good practice to have a maximum possible risk level, and not having a set stop loss level programmatically does not make your trade any riskier.
@MarcellusLux
Caught the price nudging past the TP after I closed out—classic, right?:) Though I was about 90% confident I'd hit that level eventually, but those 10% doubts...
Regarding the SL, it was more of a guideline—marked in red but not formally set. The price went close the first time (1.07931), but didn't reach the red line, and the second peak (1.07892) was even lower, which was reassuring. No major improvements to my strategy just yet since the profit was made. But definitely thinking about a more patient stance going forward.
If a trader starts using stop loss in any case (using just for the fact of usage), this will lead to losses and cause dependence on stop levels. I consider a much more important aspect to be the correct assessment of probabilities and control of possible risk taking into account these probabilities.
If it seems to you that I am standing against using stop losses, then you are wrong. If you look at my trading, you will notice that I use this risk control option, but not on 100% of my trades.
Membro Desde May 19, 2020
438 postagens
Jun 06 at 10:50
lexusxxx posted:Yes, the current GBP/JPY not so confident in short term as it was above 200.00. However, I suppose this is a temporary correction and the growth is highly possible, I agree with your opinion. At least the level of 215.800 may be a possible key level to reach.MarcellusLux posted:If you look in the short term, the pair reached the level of 200.00 and began a slight rebound downwards. But in the future I am betting on the growth of the GBPJPY.
LUX trading today was quick and didn't follow any long term goals. The task was to catch the minimum impulse after the impact of key historical levels.
The EUR/USD was close to continuing to rise and I was ready to accept some drawdown, but the sell chosen due to a clear MACD signal on the 30-minute chart and a high RSI level in the overbought zone. The price was not ready to break through the key level of 1.08800 and consolidate for further testing of 1.08900.
The GBP/JPY is currently in a very promising position for continued growth. But I was not ready to hold the position for a long time, fearing the psychological aspect and the growth cancelling due to the approach to 70 RSI and the long term developing MACD divergence, which can be seen on the hourly chart. I opened a short-term position after several attempts to break through the 200.400 and MACD signal with a move to the positive value zone on the 15-minute chart. However, the important fact is that after breaking through the 2015 high key level at 196.00, GBP/JPY has not been at its current price level above the 200.00 mark since 2008.
https://www.myfxbook.com/files/MarcellusLux/recent_trades_May_28_%28IedYE8%29_for_LK.png
@Marcellus8610
Membro Desde May 19, 2020
438 postagens
Jun 06 at 11:02
RrrubR posted:I mentioned the way I trade in the post you quoted. Anyway, if you are interested in my trading, I suggest you find my website in the bio and find out the details, or request more specific information you are interested in.lexusxxx posted:It feels like you trade without using indicators at all. How do you trade without indicators??MarcellusLux posted:If you look in the short term, the pair reached the level of 200.00 and began a slight rebound downwards. But in the future I am betting on the growth of the GBPJPY.
LUX trading today was quick and didn't follow any long term goals. The task was to catch the minimum impulse after the impact of key historical levels.
The EUR/USD was close to continuing to rise and I was ready to accept some drawdown, but the sell chosen due to a clear MACD signal on the 30-minute chart and a high RSI level in the overbought zone. The price was not ready to break through the key level of 1.08800 and consolidate for further testing of 1.08900.
The GBP/JPY is currently in a very promising position for continued growth. But I was not ready to hold the position for a long time, fearing the psychological aspect and the growth cancelling due to the approach to 70 RSI and the long term developing MACD divergence, which can be seen on the hourly chart. I opened a short-term position after several attempts to break through the 200.400 and MACD signal with a move to the positive value zone on the 15-minute chart. However, the important fact is that after breaking through the 2015 high key level at 196.00, GBP/JPY has not been at its current price level above the 200.00 mark since 2008.
https://www.myfxbook.com/files/MarcellusLux/recent_trades_May_28_%28IedYE8%29_for_LK.png
@Marcellus8610
Membro Desde Jan 15, 2024
37 postagens
Jun 07 at 11:00
Gert12 posted:I think there is no point in trying to justify market movements with meaningless lines when movements are caused by specific events in the political and economic arena.ChaKie posted:Are there any other combinations of indicators?MarcellusLux posted:Interesting take! rsi, macd, and ema are classic combinations of indicators that help achieve good accuracy in trading.
LUX trading today was quick and didn't follow any long term goals. The task was to catch the minimum impulse after the impact of key historical levels.
The EUR/USD was close to continuing to rise and I was ready to accept some drawdown, but the sell chosen due to a clear MACD signal on the 30-minute chart and a high RSI level in the overbought zone. The price was not ready to break through the key level of 1.08800 and consolidate for further testing of 1.08900.
The GBP/JPY is currently in a very promising position for continued growth. But I was not ready to hold the position for a long time, fearing the psychological aspect and the growth cancelling due to the approach to 70 RSI and the long term developing MACD divergence, which can be seen on the hourly chart. I opened a short-term position after several attempts to break through the 200.400 and MACD signal with a move to the positive value zone on the 15-minute chart. However, the important fact is that after breaking through the 2015 high key level at 196.00, GBP/JPY has not been at its current price level above the 200.00 mark since 2008.
https://www.myfxbook.com/files/MarcellusLux/recent_trades_May_28_%28IedYE8%29_for_LK.png
