Discussão Final Holy Grail V.1.1

This system is available only for fund management and it is the modified version of our previous system 'Deep Neural Network EA V.2.6'.

If you are interested to join the fund management, then please read the system description for fund management requirements.

Next, if you meet all the fund management requirements and you are interested to join the fund management, then contact us to our email '[email protected]' to proceed further with the joining process or in order to get more details.

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hi it is truth about your monitoring with all history thanks

incomeasset posted:
hi it is truth about your monitoring with all history thanks

No, this is an old mt4 account and we started using our machine learning algo on 10th Jan 2019. So any trading history before that time period is not applicable.

Otherwise, there is no reason for us to set a custom start date for the account. Since we started using this algo from 10th Jan 2019 and hence, we have set the custom start date from 10th Jan 2019.

This week we originally planned not to trade in live account during Monday and Tuesday due to Brexit, however, we just continued trading in the account since we just started this account.

Though it gave relatively high drawdown yesterday which is not displayed correctly in myfxbook, but still it didn't hit the 50% equity protection and we made maximum profit during this time. As we mentioned in our other thread, we are targeting around 5% per day on average with an equity protection of 50% in this account and so it requires the profit of around 1 month to recover the loss of one equity protection hit.

So as expected it gave a small loss yesterday and gave around 10% profit today and so around 5% per day on average. Also, we would like to mention that this account is with Forex4you and the spreads are relatively high with this broker as compared to other brokers like IC Markets, Pepperstone, Axitrader etc and hence , the actual profit can be much more if the system is used in those brokers. We might publish more accounts in near future.

We have to wait and see how long it continues till it hits the first equity protection and accordingly we will put it in high account balance.

In the mean while we have another set up with conservative settings similar to our demo account and we may start another small live account for testing purpose with the new set up.

Though this week was difficult for our algo to handle due to Brexit vote and we suffered some major drawdown in the account, but somehow we ended up with a net profit this week without almost zero manual intervention. However, we don't want to conclude anything since the trade history is small and we need at least 100% net profit before hitting the first equity protection and then, we can give some final conclusions.

Like we mentioned in our other system thread, the profits in this live account is relatively small as compared to the actual profits which it should produce, because in this Forex4you account the spreads are relatively high and sometimes the trades are not getting closed in time and mt4 gets frozen that is what happened yesterday.

Otherwise, yesterday was a profitable day, but we ended up with a small loss. So only for testing purpose in small amounts we use Forex4you, but for serious trading with large deposits we will recommend other brokers like Pepperstone, IC markets, Axitrader,LMAX etc and in those brokers the actual profits will be much more compared to this one. For example, today't profit should have more than 10% in any other broker account where as we had to close with a net profit of around 7% just because of high spread.

We want to update our fund management clients who are following this account that there will be always few trade mismatch might happen between multiple slave accounts even though we are using trade copier to copy trades to all accounts. It is because there is no guarantee that each broker account will accept all the trades all the time.

Especially, any trade which is opened during early hours of the day has a high chance of getting rejected since most of the broker servers usually reset during those times. However, placing trades in a demo account is not a problem. So there will be always few trades mismatch can happen.

However, since we are using very low risk per trade and hence, a couple of trades mismatch will not affect too much on the trading results in long run. Also, sometimes the missing trades might be closed in profit and sometimes in loss and hence, these will neutralise each other over time.

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@turbotrader2000

First of all, the link you provided has nothing to do with our trading system and it is not our website and we don't have any website as well.

Our system is developed completely from scratch and it has nothing to do with any 'Holy Grail Strategy' which someone might have developed in the past or what so ever other than just using the same name for the system.

There is a specific reason why we have chosen this name 'Final Holy Grail' for our system and we will explain that in our future posts while explaining in details about the system.

Also, note that third party links are not allowed to be posted in system discussion threads.

Recently the volume of emails to our support has been increased dramatically. So our response time might be more than 24 hours in few cases.

Also, if you are contacting our support email, then make sure to send the email to both our primary email and alternate email, because sometimes due to technical difficulties it is possible that emails might not be received to us or by you.

We are planning to expand our system to various brokers and various risk set ups in very near future. So we might add more accounts to our profile very soon.

This week we have closed with a net profit of around 30%. So it is time to withdraw the profits.

Since we are using a high risk set up with 50% equity protection and hence, it is not a good idea to pile up profits without withdrawal for those clients who are using the same set up since there is a chance of loss of 50% of account equity at anytime.

But those accounts running with low risk set ups can continue to add profits if they want, but still some withdrawal is recommended to avoid situations like flash crash events in currency pairs to protect the account balance.

In near future, we might add more accounts with low risk set ups and very high risk set ups to check how much maximum profit it can give safely.

Those clients eligible for profit sharing should receive emails from our support email. If email is not received, then they can directly contact our support email from their end.

Recently, we have been noticing very interesting facts about the executions of trades in different broker accounts and how they manipulate the trades when an account starts making profit consistently. It happens almost in all brokers less or more.

For example, after this Forex4you account made profit for few weeks, now the broker is delaying the trades up to 4 to 5 minutes before execution. But our system is still able to make profit with it mainly because we are not using the system directly with this broker. Rather we are using a trade copier to copy trades from one of our master account to multiple live accounts and hence, broker can't do anything in this case.

We want to update that apart from this account, we are already running live accounts with different brokers. But since these accounts belong to our clients and these are using low risks and hence, we have not published any such accounts in myfxbook.

So those traders who are interested in our systems we highly recommend to join our fund management instead of using our EA directly in live accounts. Because directly running the EA live account is always risky and of no use since the EA doesn't have any control over what the broker does in the backend.

But very soon we might publish our own live account with another good broker to show the actual high profit of this trading system.

As we promised in our previous threads and posts we have added few more live accounts with different risk set ups. So we have received a lot of emails regarding the difference between the accounts and their trading results. This is very difficult and very long to explain to a normal trader and so we will explain it in multiple posts.

First of all, all the accounts which use the first name 'Final Holy Grail' use the same trading system and in fact, we directly copy the same trades to all the accounts from one of our master account where our algo is running. But in each account we have used a different risk set up and different maximum Drawdown % or equity protection % based on thorough understanding, discussion and agreement with the investor to whom the account belongs to.

So we have divided all our accounts into 3 categories:
1.Medium Risk or M series like M1,M2,M3,.....titled for each account under this category
2.Low Risk or L series like L1,L2,L3,...titled for each account under this category
3.High Risk or H series like H1,H2,H3..titled for each account under this category

For now we have added only 1 account for medium risk and 1 account with low risk and we have not added any account for high risk. We might add more accounts under these categories and also, under high risk categories.

We want to repeat that each account is protected by a specific equity protection % which is the maximum floating drawdown % allowed in that account and in case, that drawdown will reach, then all trades will be force closed at loss. So for that particular day the net loss will be same as maximum drawdown % as agreed with the investor from the beginning of trading.

Now, the main difference between Medium risk and Low risk is that for the same maximum drawdown % or equity protection % what is the probability of hitting the equity protection?

1. In medium risk set up, the probability of NOT hitting the equity protection is around 70% to 80%. But still there is a 20% to 30% chance is there that the equity protection might be hit at sometime in future and in case, if it happens, then it will take at least 1 month to recover that loss. So all accounts with ending name 'M' like M1,M2 belongs to this category.

2.In low risk set up, the probability of NOT hitting the equity protection is around 99% and so there is almost no probability or very very low chance of the equity protection to be hit. In this case, we just reduce the risk to half as compared to medium risk and hence, it is absolutely safe, but the % return will be also half. But still if it hits the equity protection, then it can take around 2 to 3 months to recover that loss.

But it is absolutely up to the investor to choose what will be the maximum DD % or equity protection % based on his risk tolerance. So an account can be run with 50% equity protection either in low risk or medium risk mode.

This particular live account is running with medium risk mode with 50% equity protection.

3.Next, the high risk mode is almost same as medium risk, but we use a very very high level of risk with a minimum equity protection of around 30% which means at anytime 70% of the account balance might be wiped out. But the advantage of this set up is that it can generate profits of around 8% to 10% everyday and hence, it is suitable for small account balances to make aggressive profits and continuous withdrawals.Because if it will continue for a couple of months before the equity protection hit, still the remaining 30% will be very high after loosing the 70% balance after protection hit.

Finally, we can trade with any risk set up and any maximum DD % as high as 70% and as low as 1%. That means we can maintain the maximum DD below 1%,2%,3%,...etc if your account balance is very high above 10K or more.

For example, under medium risk mode we can make around 10% per month with a maximum DD less than 5% and under low risk mode, we can make 5% per month with a maximum DD less than 5%.

So finally this account has crossed 100% profit and it is important for the medium risk set up to get a confirmation. As we mentioned before this account uses a 50% equity protection and hence, for a 50% equity protection hit, it requires a profit of 100% for recovery.

So we have finally crossed 100% and now even if the equity protection will be hit in future still it can't loose the main capital. So in the past 3 weeks of trading the worst kind of drawdown what it gave was around 20% to 25% during Brexit vote. But the account survived during that time and after that we never faced the drawdown even close to 10%.

So most probably we will use this set up to set up an account with much higher risk and we may publish the results soon.

Though there is no 100% guarantee on the future results and equity protection might be hit at anytime. But we are not going to stop trading permanently in case if it happen, so far we found this medium risk set up to be the safest and fastest growing account set up so far.

Most importantly, our account 'Final Holy Grail L1' will continue to run for long time since it uses very low risk and probability of hitting the equity protection is very low.

As we mentioned in our previous posts we might publish a high risk account next week. However, since we have some pending open trades in our master account and hence, we need to wait till all trades are closed before we start the new account.

Also, we noticed an important thing in good brokers like IC markets and Axitrader is that the results are extremely good on daily basis as compared to this Forex4you account. So in a small or medium risk account with smaller equity protection of 10% or 20%, even if the equity protection will be hit still it can be recovered in less than 1 to 2 weeks and it will not even take a month.

Though equity protection has never been hit so far, but still it is possible to happen in medium risk accounts at anytime in future. But now for lower maximum DD % accounts, that is not a problem at all since even if it will be hit still it can be recovered in less than 2 weeks of time.

So if you are trading in a account anything more than 1000 USD in a good broker, then it can make very easily and very safely around 20% per month or more with 10% maximum drawdown. So monthly return % is almost double the maximum DD %.

It is possible because our algo uses high frequency trading and number of trades per day is around 40 to 50 and hence, if your broker offers good spread, then the final results can be much better. Or if you are using an institutional level broker or direct bank, then the results can be almost double in monthly % return.

So these high risk accounts are useful only for smaller accounts below 1000 USD with very high leverage. As the account balance will increase naturally the leverage decreases in most of the brokers and hence, we have to use low risk or medium risk in accounts.

hi let me know why you not updated monitorings? thanks