Vortex Trader PRO (Por vortextraderpro)

Ganho : +2131.88%
Drawdown 27.67%
Pips: 2247.4
Trades 474
Ganhou :
Perdeu :
Digitar : Real
Alavancagem: 1:200
Trading : Automatizado

Discussão Vortex Trader PRO

Feb 03, 2015 at 01:56
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Membro Desde Mar 31, 2014   192 postagens
Feb 08, 2015 at 04:30
hi, how much is this EA and from where can we buy it?
ben@
Membro Desde Feb 09, 2010   226 postagens
Feb 08, 2015 at 07:28
I use them on the same account but just be careful with your lot sizes.
Membro Desde Feb 03, 2015   84 postagens
Feb 08, 2015 at 07:44
bundesrepublik posted:
hi, how much is this EA and from where can we buy it?

You can get a copy here www.vortextraderpro.com/indexPP.html
Membro Desde Nov 26, 2014   5 postagens
Feb 08, 2015 at 07:46
I had a huge -110pips dd in a EURUSD long trade on last Friday. I could even reproduce this loser trade in control point backtest. But this trade does not appear in the official forward test. It looks like the vendor stopped this EA before the big news (i.e. US employment rate). I hope Doug will let us know when to stop and restart the EA as he does for Rev Trader.

As for backtest, it matches quite well with the forward test. Looks very promising! I started loving this EA even though I had a big loser trade at the beginning...
Membro Desde Nov 26, 2014   5 postagens
Feb 08, 2015 at 11:35
craneliu posted:
Hi JPFX,

thanks for sharing!
I have some concerns:
1) which broker are you using? Is voterx EA sensitive to broker like REV?

2) for the backrest, which data source and spread are you using?

Thanks!

Crane
1) I use XM Zero (ECN). I still don't have enough data about the broker sensitivity.
2) The data source is from Metaquotes and I set spread as 1 (if i remenber correctly. I am not a experienced backtester). I noticed some trades are spread sensitive, which is quite expectable from its strategy.
RedRhino
forex_trader_149646
Membro Desde Sep 09, 2013   471 postagens
Feb 08, 2015 at 14:12
Thank you for sharing your backtest of VTP and Wall Street

https://www.myfxbook.com/strategies/vortextraderprobt-gbp/76831

https://www.myfxbook.com/strategies/wallstreetforexrobotbt-gbp/76839

Wall street made 900 more trades and still comes ahead in the Profit factor 1.99 compared to VTP 1.84
Membro Desde Nov 26, 2014   5 postagens
Feb 08, 2015 at 15:55
Please note that the modeling quality of these backtests is not very good. And I have a feeling that Wallstreet always looks nicer in the backtest than in real trade. Especially recent performance of Wallstreet keeps me disappointed.

After exploring around in MyFxBook, I've found two live accounts that run VortexTrader:
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/TradeNew/synergyfx-hybrid/1149621
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/BestEARobots/vortex-trader-pro-bestearobotscom/1150686

None of them has the loss I experienced. So it can be some broker-dependent problem.
Membro Desde Jan 25, 2010   1360 postagens
Feb 08, 2015 at 18:36 (editado há Feb 08, 2015 at 18:37)
RedRhino posted:
Thank you for sharing your backtest of VTP and Wall Street

https://www.myfxbook.com/strategies/vortextraderprobt-gbp/76831

https://www.myfxbook.com/strategies/wallstreetforexrobotbt-gbp/76839

Wall street made 900 more trades and still comes ahead in the Profit factor 1.99 compared to VTP 1.84

Those points make WSR seem enticing, but for me I don't like WSR...
I guess its due to AHPR and GHPR factors (0.1% compared with VTP of 0.13%)

And although trade duration is almost double that of WSR, VPT has an accuracy over 10% better. I prefer this (though it is interesting to note WSR has a smoother equity curve than that of VPT).
Membro Desde Jan 05, 2015   145 postagens
Feb 09, 2015 at 07:40
BluePanther posted:
RedRhino posted:
Thank you for sharing your backtest of VTP and Wall Street

https://www.myfxbook.com/strategies/vortextraderprobt-gbp/76831

https://www.myfxbook.com/strategies/wallstreetforexrobotbt-gbp/76839

Wall street made 900 more trades and still comes ahead in the Profit factor 1.99 compared to VTP 1.84

Those points make WSR seem enticing, but for me I don't like WSR...
I guess its due to AHPR and GHPR factors (0.1% compared with VTP of 0.13%)

And although trade duration is almost double that of WSR, VPT has an accuracy over 10% better. I prefer this (though it is interesting to note WSR has a smoother equity curve than that of VPT).

So over long run best get VTP ;o)
Membro Desde Jan 05, 2015   145 postagens
Feb 09, 2015 at 07:40
maida0922 posted:
I had a huge -110pips dd in a EURUSD long trade on last Friday. I could even reproduce this loser trade in control point backtest. But this trade does not appear in the official forward test. It looks like the vendor stopped this EA before the big news (i.e. US employment rate). I hope Doug will let us know when to stop and restart the EA as he does for Rev Trader.

As for backtest, it matches quite well with the forward test. Looks very promising! I started loving this EA even though I had a big loser trade at the beginning...

I did not get this EUR/USD trade at all like Doug's account. I am using TradersWay as in the USA and matching Both VTP & RTV about as close as one can get to Doug's live accounts.
Membro Desde May 30, 2013   19 postagens
Feb 09, 2015 at 07:52
maida0922 posted:
craneliu posted:
Hi JPFX,

thanks for sharing!
I have some concerns:
1) which broker are you using? Is voterx EA sensitive to broker like REV?

2) for the backrest, which data source and spread are you using?

Thanks!

Crane
1) I use XM Zero (ECN). I still don't have enough data about the broker sensitivity.
2) The data source is from Metaquotes and I set spread as 1 (if i remenber correctly. I am not a experienced backtester). I noticed some trades are spread sensitive, which is quite expectable from its strategy.

I've a broker price feed problem with VTP last week, even Doug still have no idea about this problem. I use FXPrimus ECN.
Membro Desde May 30, 2013   19 postagens
Feb 09, 2015 at 07:57
Here is E/U Backtest from 18/09/14 to 6/02/15. Anyone has a backtest to compare?

Anexos :

RedRhino
forex_trader_149646
Membro Desde Sep 09, 2013   471 postagens
Feb 09, 2015 at 08:02 (editado há Feb 09, 2015 at 08:02)
This live account still has the current EURUSD Short open while Vendor account closed at 0 pips

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/flipperr/7641533-vortex/1152971

Here is a Tick data 2008- 2015 backtest for EURUSD

https://www.myfxbook.com/strategies/vortextraderpro-eurusd/76921

Including 2 Stoplosses that Vendor did not experience

02.12.2014 15:51 02.14.2014 07:02 EURUSD Sell 0.10 1.37005 1.35705 1.35905 1.37005 -110.0 -80.19 1d -1.62%
02.12.2014 15:45 02.14.2014 07:00 EURUSD Sell 0.10 1.36972 1.35672 1.35872 1.36972 -110.0 -80.22 1d -1.59%
RedRhino
forex_trader_149646
Membro Desde Sep 09, 2013   471 postagens
Feb 09, 2015 at 08:04
Here is another Live account at IC markets that still has the current EURUSD Short open while Vendor account closed at 0 pips

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/CentMan/vortex-trader-pro/1152924
RedRhino
forex_trader_149646
Membro Desde Sep 09, 2013   471 postagens
Feb 09, 2015 at 08:06
Membro Desde Nov 27, 2014   120 postagens
Feb 09, 2015 at 08:44
This EA is starting not to look so great right now
Membro Desde Jan 25, 2010   1360 postagens
Feb 09, 2015 at 10:41 (editado há Feb 09, 2015 at 10:53)
My IC Markets demo has EU short closed for 0.6 pips... similar to other ICM accounts.

Not sure why XM still has it open...

marran posted:
This EA is starting not to look so great right now

That depends on your definition of great... still looks great to me! (compared to all the crap I have seen or tried, ABSOLUTELY!) 😎
RedRhino
forex_trader_149646
Membro Desde Sep 09, 2013   471 postagens
Feb 09, 2015 at 10:51
Vendor closed before all the users though. XM has higher spreads than ICM!!

Membro Desde Nov 27, 2014   120 postagens
Feb 09, 2015 at 10:55
BluePanther posted:
My IC Markets demo has EU short closed for 0.6 pips... similar to other ICM accounts.

Not sure why XM still has it open...

marran posted:
This EA is starting not to look so great right now

That depends on your definition of great... still looks great to me! (compared to all the crap I have seen or tried, ABSOLUTELY!) 😎

Well my thoughts were that the results were very positive and that was making the EA look great! However subsequent posts are showing differing results
Membro Desde Jan 25, 2010   1360 postagens
Feb 09, 2015 at 10:57 (editado há Feb 09, 2015 at 11:01)
RedRhino posted:
Vendor closed before all the users though. XM has higher spreads than ICM!!

Guess that means vendor's broker SynergyFX has better spreads than ICM? Hmmm...

Well my thoughts were that the results were very positive and that was making the EA look great! However subsequent posts are showing differing results

You are welcome to form your own opinion, but don't necessarily base it upon others' opinions only... Do your own due diligence!
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