Is Martingale the real and the only holy grail?

Jul 31, 2020 at 03:04
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Mitglied seit Jul 20, 2020   298 Posts
Aug 05, 2020 at 17:13
Many people use many strategies in Forex. In most cases, the same strategy is used by 2 people and one of them is making a profit and the other is making a loss. Emotions are working here. And there is no price for emotions in Forex. Can do some things which I am describing below

1. Uses long term time frames and analyses in this time frame.
2. After refraining from trading for a while, he came from outside.
3. Meditate regularly and control emotions.
4. Follow trade management or adhere to risk rewards.

Follow these rules and hope all goes well.
Mitglied seit Apr 23, 2020   2 Posts
Aug 05, 2020 at 17:29
I think Martingale strategy can be very effective in the right environment. I'm currently using a Martingale-based EA as well. For ranging pairs it works great. For trending pairs, it can draw you down a bit (of course depending on your settings) and may take a while longer to recover. I've done well with it to date but also looking for a good trending EA to compliment.
Mitglied seit Jul 12, 2018   13 Posts
Aug 05, 2020 at 20:11
xtremetoonz posted:
I think Martingale strategy can be very effective in the right environment. I'm currently using a Martingale-based EA as well. For ranging pairs it works great. For trending pairs, it can draw you down a bit (of course depending on your settings) and may take a while longer to recover. I've done well with it to date but also looking for a good trending EA to compliment.

Thank you for your insight and feedback. For how long have you been using Martingale and what sort of returns/risks are you talking about here on monthly/annually basis.
Mitglied seit Jun 23, 2020   34 Posts
Aug 06, 2020 at 11:41
In the long term you’ll need a stronger strategy to fall back on.
Mitglied seit Apr 23, 2020   2 Posts
Aug 06, 2020 at 12:04
mnsr9494 posted:
xtremetoonz posted:
I think Martingale strategy can be very effective in the right environment. I'm currently using a Martingale-based EA as well. For ranging pairs it works great. For trending pairs, it can draw you down a bit (of course depending on your settings) and may take a while longer to recover. I've done well with it to date but also looking for a good trending EA to compliment.

Thank you for your insight and feedback. For how long have you been using Martingale and what sort of returns/risks are you talking about here on monthly/annually basis.

I'm going on 4 months and seeing excellent returns(3-8% per week). The challenge is avoiding long trends and reducing draw down. We just had a few more EAs introduced to us that work off different metrics and have months or years of records to consider when choosing. Some work better with trending so I'm excited to demo those.
Mitglied seit Jul 12, 2018   13 Posts
Aug 07, 2020 at 07:05
davidkew posted:
In the long term you’ll need a stronger strategy to fall back on.

In the long term, all stop-loss traders will lose money.
Mitglied seit Jul 12, 2018   13 Posts
Aug 07, 2020 at 07:10
I'm going on 4 months and seeing excellent returns(3-8% per week). The challenge is avoiding long trends and reducing draw down. We just had a few more EAs introduced to us that work off different metrics and have months or years of records to consider when choosing. Some work better with trending so I'm excited to demo those.
I know right? Martingale is easy but determing the right enoviornment is the challenging part. Since all indicators are lagging, you can’t rely on them in this matter.
Mitglied seit Oct 15, 2014   54 Posts
Aug 07, 2020 at 08:45
Martingale is a cheap magic trick, it has nothing to do with trading the market.
Mitglied seit Dec 18, 2019   31 Posts
Aug 07, 2020 at 09:42
hi i'll try to help you by telling you what i do.

i mainly trade eu usdchf and gbp usd
15m tf full zoomed out.

this is my eu trades i would take or have taken.
trade only intraday the london session and nothing more than that

eu
https://prntscr.com/tvlzsz
gu
https://prntscr.com/tvm1kj
uchf
https://prntscr.com/tvm2h8

uchf is the most consistent of them all.

i use sma's just to define the trend and trade against the trend if i see accumulation at extended places or with the trend at previous break of structure that act as accumulation areas

50sma
160 ema
336 sma
768 sma

use 1.5rr and set stop loss at least 1atr higher than the top of the accumulation area.
trade one at a time, no more that that. 1 trade every day or two, never leave trades overnight.

risk no more than 1% and even then i sometimes if trade goes against me i hedge it instead of letting it hit the stop loss. and find the next exhaustion point to add to my trade. i rarelly if ever loose. i only focus one one timeframe and dont even bother to look at the rest.

and ye this is actually my trading chart, i dont zoom in, i only care about the bigger picture, its eaisier.

i dont care about indicators as well, they all lag, only price action doent lag.

hope this helped. good luck
Mitglied seit Mar 18, 2019   98 Posts
Aug 10, 2020 at 12:41
5astelija posted:
Martingale is a cheap magic trick, it has nothing to do with trading the market.
exactly, and ther is no holy grail ahah
forex_trader_1151190
Mitglied seit Feb 28, 2020   17 Posts
Aug 13, 2020 at 03:12
Martingale is gambling, period.
Mitglied seit Jul 19, 2020   298 Posts
Aug 13, 2020 at 12:33
Holy grail for trading is there is no holy grail. Those who look or run for holy grail they end up find nothing. Only understanding of the market is real. Use strategy that you understand the most. Don't run for ready made strategy.
Mitglied seit Sep 04, 2013   26 Posts
Aug 13, 2020 at 12:57
This questions is discussed since ages and is still actual.😄
Mitglied seit Mar 03, 2020   3 Posts
Aug 13, 2020 at 13:14
There is no magic and absolute way to make money in the market, but there are several active strategies that can help you earn, scalping, martingale and long-term deals.
Mitglied seit Aug 07, 2020   34 Posts
Aug 13, 2020 at 14:25
For those who are greedy , martingale is a holy grail , They will fail in that too.

Greed is dangerous not only in trading but also in life
Mitglied seit Jun 22, 2020   39 Posts
Aug 14, 2020 at 10:34
Tried it all.
Mitglied seit May 11, 2020   104 Posts
Aug 14, 2020 at 10:49
mnsr9494 posted:
davidkew posted:
In the long term you’ll need a stronger strategy to fall back on.

In the long term, all stop-loss traders will lose money.

Not true. You can set stop loss on all trades and still be profitable in the long term. You just need to have a strategy that has a real long term edge over the market which enters/exits trades based on significant support and resistance levels.

Martingale and grid strategies simply won't work in the long term if the underlying strategy does not have a real edge over the market - just the same as to why all betting systems will fail against the casino, because the casino holds a long term statistical edge against the players in all of the games they offer (expect card-counting in Blackjack where players may occasionally achieve a statistical edge).
Mitglied seit Dec 15, 2019   20 Posts
Aug 16, 2020 at 15:47
This method of protection on the market really requires special attention, because it is a classic format, which has many interpretations. And it can be adapted according to the strategy and the size of the capital. So it can be interesting.
KhoiDam
Mitglied seit Jan 31, 2012   168 Posts
Aug 16, 2020 at 15:53
I did a lot of martingale and grid trading a while ago and it works as long there are no strong trends.

But it is very risky and I blew almost up.
Mitglied seit Jul 15, 2020   14 Posts
Aug 24, 2020 at 13:51
This is usually criticized because it requires a constant increase in order size - and it can lead to a complete loss of capital if you have not been able to predict the situation correctly.
But many people use it. And quite successfully.
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