What is the average profit...

Oct 01, 2017 at 06:39
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Mitglied seit Dec 03, 2016   3 Posts
Oct 01, 2017 at 06:39
How much is the average profit (in %) that succesful traders make?

im just wondering!
Mitglied seit Nov 21, 2011   1718 Posts
Oct 02, 2017 at 11:20
In the bank where I'm working, if a trader makes between 15 to 40% a month, he is considering like a god.
Now I know how they work and their conditions: (zero commissions and up to 6 numbers afer decimal)
They press a buttom it opens and closes like High Frequency Trading
They dare to call this a trader!
They aren't allowed to keep positions.
All they do is to parameter the button, Open buy and close Sell or Open Sell and Close Buy depending on market direction.
That's it.
Mitglied seit Jul 01, 2015   16 Posts
Oct 02, 2017 at 21:17
CrazyTrader posted:
In the bank where I'm working, if a trader makes between 15 to 40% a month, he is considering like a god.
Now I know how they work and their conditions: (zero commissions and up to 6 numbers afer decimal)
They press a buttom it opens and closes like High Frequency Trading
They aren't allowed to keep positions.
All they do is to parameter the button, Open buy and close Sell or Open Sell and Close Buy depending on market direction.

Can You, please, shed a little light on the type of strategies used by bank traders.
And how much they lever up their equity (what level of leverege they actually use not the maximum leverege).
They aren't allowed to keep positions ? That means that they are trading only short term inside just one trading day timeframe ?
Mitglied seit Nov 21, 2011   1718 Posts
Oct 02, 2017 at 21:26
I don't know everything as traders aren't even in my buildings.
They are not real traders like other banks... indeed it is forbidden to keep positions. They don't have time to think about closing trades, it's already closed automatically... It's HFT (milliseconds trading)
Mitglied seit Oct 12, 2016   867 Posts
Oct 03, 2017 at 06:58
5% to 10% per month is a very reasonable % return to achieve under very low drawdown by any profitable system and any professional trader.

But there is really no upper limit on how much % a trader can make if he is willing to take high risk and willing to accept high drawdown and willing to diversify his funds into many accounts and of course if he knows exactly what he is doing without wiping out the balance.
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Mitglied seit Dec 11, 2015   1487 Posts
Oct 13, 2017 at 13:58
I think this is a very subjective issue. Different people have a different idea what is considered profitable. For example, if I do 1% to 5% of profit per month I am terribly pleased, but others would scoff at such results and wouldn't consider them nearly enough.
Mitglied seit Dec 03, 2016   3 Posts
Oct 15, 2017 at 11:32
thanks for your answers.

im currently around 30%... but had some days with a big drawdown, should i reduce that to be safe?

Like where is the limit? some of your long-time tradaer probably have some advice for me :)
Mitglied seit Oct 12, 2017   3 Posts
Oct 15, 2017 at 11:36
Every trader is different. With my trading system and strategy, I can make on average 20% a month with minimum risk.
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Mitglied seit Oct 16, 2017   11 Posts
Oct 16, 2017 at 13:56
Sounds like you have a good system. Any chance you could share it?
Mitglied seit Nov 19, 2017   31 Posts
Nov 20, 2017 at 07:40
I shoot for 10-20% a month, but honestly if you just shoot for 8% of your account per month that is more then enough, as I always say, slow and grow or fast and blow. In the beginning traders tend to take more risk in order to build an account quickly, and once it reaches a size they are happy with they lower risk greatly and just shoot for 'small' consisten growth, such as 2% a month as thats more then enough to live off at that point. It is a difficult question to answer, it also depends on the market volatility. if it is a high volaitily month, then making 30-50% on a very good system designed for that type of market, risking 2% per trade and day trading, that is possible to gain, as long as you are willing to risk the potential drawdown. In the end it comes to the type of trader you are, how much you are willing to risk, and what your weekly, monthly, and yearly goals are.
Slow and Grow or Fast and Blow
Mitglied seit Nov 24, 2017   6 Posts
Nov 26, 2017 at 08:00
All marketing process starts slowly, especially in this business you have to be patient
Mitglied seit Sep 12, 2015   1948 Posts
Nov 26, 2017 at 11:10
5% a month is a common goal for Investors ,intra day trading its unlimited especially trading Forex or Crypto ,market volatility plays a big part obviously,you have to learn to step away from losing trades as quickly as possible and let winners run.
"They mistook leverage with genius".
Mitglied seit Nov 30, 2017   12 Posts
Nov 30, 2017 at 15:37
5% a month is my target. Any more than that and you are dreaming
Mitglied seit Sep 12, 2015   1948 Posts
Nov 30, 2017 at 15:53
Do you think the market cares how much you make each month ,find the right trades and you can make way more than 5% a month.
"They mistook leverage with genius".
Mitglied seit Mar 16, 2021   477 Posts
Jun 03, 2021 at 01:28
mlawson71 posted:
I think this is a very subjective issue. Different people have a different idea what is considered profitable. For example, if I do 1% to 5% of profit per month I am terribly pleased, but others would scoff at such results and wouldn't consider them nearly enough.
It's just that people's ideas are different. For example, some people want 5% profit per month and some want 10%. Loss/profit is to be combined to gain profit.
Mitglied seit Jul 19, 2020   788 Posts
Jun 03, 2021 at 15:48
Kgodloveme posted:
Every trader is different. With my trading system and strategy, I can make on average 20% a month with minimum risk.
I also plan and create a trading strategy like you. However, my profit percentage is 5% per month.
Mitglied seit Jul 23, 2020   759 Posts
Jun 08, 2021 at 10:10
I am trying for monthly 5% growth. But I am currently making a 2% average return.
Mitglied seit Jun 06, 2021   2 Posts
Jun 08, 2021 at 11:47
I think trying to get a consistent positive returns on a month-to-month basis is a little difficult. Personally, I'd like it to be an annual thing. I always tell myself if the largest fund management companies out there measure their performance on a year-to-year basis, why should I measure mine monthly? Just my 2 cents.
“Setting goals is the first step in turning the invisible into the visible.” — Tony Robbins
Mitglied seit Mar 17, 2021   536 Posts
Jun 12, 2021 at 17:32
Patrick14 posted:
All marketing process starts slowly, especially in this business you have to be patient
Patience is the most important thing to make money from this market.
Mitglied seit Jul 23, 2020   869 Posts
Aug 08, 2021 at 02:34
Currently I am making 25 profits monthly.
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