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May 27, 2010 at 18:59
Mitglied seit Jan 04, 2010
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qarliv posted:
Do you offer managed accounts or signals for DFI Gains as well?
i think its only managed account , at least thats what i gatherd from web page
Our greatest weakness lies in giving up, the certain way to succeed is always to try just one more time.
Mitglied seit Oct 28, 2009
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Jun 02, 2010 at 09:36
Mitglied seit Oct 28, 2009
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I notice this has stopped updating now. Any reason why?
11:15, restate my assumptions: 1. Mathematics is the language of nature. 2. Everything around us can be represented and understood through numbers. 3. If you graph these numbers, patterns emerge. Therefore: There are patterns everywhere in nature.
Mitglied seit Mar 16, 2010
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Mitglied seit Apr 20, 2010
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Aug 11, 2010 at 22:26
Mitglied seit Apr 20, 2010
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An incredible gain on July with 441.71%. Here is a tricky part, 15 Jul'10 a drop of -243% or loss $12k, the next day jump up to 423% or win $32879 having net profit of $20k over.
Is this effort make by human or some glitch on the EA that produce such dramatic up and down profit ?
Isn't nice if you can make such quantum leap every month ?
<a href='https://www.myfxbook.com/files/ForexSeeker/DFIGains.jpg' target='_blank'><img src='https://www.myfxbook.com/files/ForexSeeker/DFIGains.jpg'/></a>
Is this effort make by human or some glitch on the EA that produce such dramatic up and down profit ?
Isn't nice if you can make such quantum leap every month ?
<a href='https://www.myfxbook.com/files/ForexSeeker/DFIGains.jpg' target='_blank'><img src='https://www.myfxbook.com/files/ForexSeeker/DFIGains.jpg'/></a>
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Mitglied seit Feb 16, 2010
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Aug 12, 2010 at 10:28
Mitglied seit Feb 16, 2010
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This is martingale. Sooner or later.... CRASH
"In trading, winning is frequently a question of luck, but losing is always a matter of skill."
Aug 12, 2010 at 10:33
Mitglied seit Mar 29, 2010
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This is the reason why we do not let it work automatically. We use it combined with manual trading. You can earn money with a lot of EA's which would lose on their own. If you know how to interact with it you make profits like we do.
This is not an EA for sale. We use it for our managed accounts only.
This is not an EA for sale. We use it for our managed accounts only.
Mitglied seit Feb 16, 2010
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Aug 12, 2010 at 10:59
(bearbeitet Aug 12, 2010 at 11:01)
Mitglied seit Feb 16, 2010
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Aaah, I see now you've changed your location from Latvia to Switzerland. You have no telephone numbers on your site. You sell crappy martingale EA. You're IB of FXM Financial Group. I read the agreement for real account opening on their site. This is the first time I wasn't able to understand WHERE is this broker registered, not to mention about regulation. It's not mentioned according the laws of which country the agreement should be governed. Everything about you, your company and your dream broker is so fishy. I believe this broker is so fake that I cannot imagine it exists, it's probably just a website. I tried to contact 'London's' office at their support hotline number +442032390695 - no answer. In fact it's the same fax number +447005805260 for each of the offices.
SO PEOPLE, BEWARE OF THIS SCAM
SO PEOPLE, BEWARE OF THIS SCAM
"In trading, winning is frequently a question of luck, but losing is always a matter of skill."
Mitglied seit Feb 16, 2010
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Aug 12, 2010 at 11:11
Mitglied seit Feb 16, 2010
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Update on FXM Financial Group:
I managed to get in contact with one lady at this phone number: +442032390695 and I asked where the company is registered. She answered the company is registered in UK. Then I asked if it's FSA regulated and she said YES, check our site for registration number. Ok, that's it: https://www.fxmtrade.com/en/page/16. The Financial Services Authority registration number should be 1041872. Guess what, it's not.
IT'S ALL SCAM
I managed to get in contact with one lady at this phone number: +442032390695 and I asked where the company is registered. She answered the company is registered in UK. Then I asked if it's FSA regulated and she said YES, check our site for registration number. Ok, that's it: https://www.fxmtrade.com/en/page/16. The Financial Services Authority registration number should be 1041872. Guess what, it's not.
IT'S ALL SCAM
"In trading, winning is frequently a question of luck, but losing is always a matter of skill."
Mitglied seit Oct 28, 2009
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Aug 12, 2010 at 11:19
Mitglied seit Oct 28, 2009
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Good work fomacc, as usual.
11:15, restate my assumptions: 1. Mathematics is the language of nature. 2. Everything around us can be represented and understood through numbers. 3. If you graph these numbers, patterns emerge. Therefore: There are patterns everywhere in nature.
Mitglied seit Feb 16, 2010
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Aug 12, 2010 at 11:19
Mitglied seit Feb 16, 2010
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"In trading, winning is frequently a question of luck, but losing is always a matter of skill."
Aug 12, 2010 at 12:13
Mitglied seit Mar 29, 2010
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Hi Forexma,
Do you see your EA's threatened since they are not as profitable as our EA's?
Why do you hide your Broker with your EA's?
We have over 100 clients. Did you ever seen here a claim about our EA's or our managed accounts or other services?
People who make bad propagnada about us have never tried our services or products. They are competitors who tries to attrackt people to their own products using the popularity of other people while they write something bad about them.
Best regards
Deltafins
Do you see your EA's threatened since they are not as profitable as our EA's?
Why do you hide your Broker with your EA's?
We have over 100 clients. Did you ever seen here a claim about our EA's or our managed accounts or other services?
People who make bad propagnada about us have never tried our services or products. They are competitors who tries to attrackt people to their own products using the popularity of other people while they write something bad about them.
Best regards
Deltafins
Mitglied seit Oct 28, 2009
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Aug 12, 2010 at 12:30
(bearbeitet Aug 12, 2010 at 12:30)
Mitglied seit Oct 28, 2009
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Okay, lets just examine the way that a martingale managed account works.
So, say the client invests $10,000
And you can generate a 100 % return per month
And you are taking a 50% cut of those returns.
So, in the first month. The account is now worth $20,000.
You take $5,000. Thank you very much!
The client has $15,000 in his account.
So the next month your 100% profit generates the client $15,000.
Account is now $30,000
You take 50%, $7500. Thank you very much!
The client now has $22,500 - He's getting excited at this stage. He thinks about maybe withdrawing some money but greed gets the better of him. So he doesn't, as you've told him this can go on forever.
So, the next month you make 100%.
Account is now at $45,000
You take 50%, $11,250 . Thank you very much! You have now banked $23,500. A nice sum for doing practically nothing other than exploiting people who don't realise that one day....
Blam! Black swan event. Account gets a margin call. Investor loses all his money but it's okay because you banked $23,500 from your client.
Martingales are about one of the most despicable ways to manage an account, you're up there along with Bernie Madoff in my opinion. They take practically no skill and no trading experience to run. I could set one up now today in about thirty minutes and be showing this kind of account performance myself very easily in a few months.
So, say the client invests $10,000
And you can generate a 100 % return per month
And you are taking a 50% cut of those returns.
So, in the first month. The account is now worth $20,000.
You take $5,000. Thank you very much!
The client has $15,000 in his account.
So the next month your 100% profit generates the client $15,000.
Account is now $30,000
You take 50%, $7500. Thank you very much!
The client now has $22,500 - He's getting excited at this stage. He thinks about maybe withdrawing some money but greed gets the better of him. So he doesn't, as you've told him this can go on forever.
So, the next month you make 100%.
Account is now at $45,000
You take 50%, $11,250 . Thank you very much! You have now banked $23,500. A nice sum for doing practically nothing other than exploiting people who don't realise that one day....
Blam! Black swan event. Account gets a margin call. Investor loses all his money but it's okay because you banked $23,500 from your client.
Martingales are about one of the most despicable ways to manage an account, you're up there along with Bernie Madoff in my opinion. They take practically no skill and no trading experience to run. I could set one up now today in about thirty minutes and be showing this kind of account performance myself very easily in a few months.
11:15, restate my assumptions: 1. Mathematics is the language of nature. 2. Everything around us can be represented and understood through numbers. 3. If you graph these numbers, patterns emerge. Therefore: There are patterns everywhere in nature.
Mitglied seit Sep 04, 2009
879 Posts
Aug 12, 2010 at 13:29
(bearbeitet Aug 12, 2010 at 13:35)
Mitglied seit Sep 04, 2009
879 Posts
As long as you talk about primitive double up Marty I agree with you Steve.
But I think there are some others, marty-like, way more sophisticated systems around with solid profit/DD ratio. Of course a 100% ROI per month is not an option for such systems.
Since I don't know deltafins systems I can't judge about them..
Just my two cents.
But I think there are some others, marty-like, way more sophisticated systems around with solid profit/DD ratio. Of course a 100% ROI per month is not an option for such systems.
Since I don't know deltafins systems I can't judge about them..
Just my two cents.
Mitglied seit Feb 16, 2010
1332 Posts
Aug 12, 2010 at 13:31
Mitglied seit Feb 16, 2010
1332 Posts
stevetrade posted:
Okay, lets just examine the way that a martingale managed account works.
So, say the client invests $10,000
And you can generate a 100 % return per month
And you are taking a 50% cut of those returns.
So, in the first month. The account is now worth $20,000.
You take $5,000. Thank you very much!
The client has $15,000 in his account.
So the next month your 100% profit generates the client $15,000.
Account is now $30,000
You take 50%, $7500. Thank you very much!
The client now has $22,500 - He's getting excited at this stage. He thinks about maybe withdrawing some money but greed gets the better of him. So he doesn't, as you've told him this can go on forever.
So, the next month you make 100%.
Account is now at $45,000
You take 50%, $11,250 . Thank you very much! You have now banked $23,500. A nice sum for doing practically nothing other than exploiting people who don't realise that one day....
Blam! Black swan event. Account gets a margin call. Investor loses all his money but it's okay because you banked $23,500 from your client.
Martingales are about one of the most despicable ways to manage an account, you're up there along with Bernie Madoff in my opinion. They take practically no skill and no trading experience to run. I could set one up now today in about thirty minutes and be showing this kind of account performance myself very easily in a few months.
I just couldn't have said it better than this.
"In trading, winning is frequently a question of luck, but losing is always a matter of skill."
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