Gain and Abs.Gain
Mar 18, 2010 at 16:39
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Mar 18, 2010 at 16:39
(editado Mar 18, 2010 at 16:41)
Hi
I am trying to undrestand how the Gain and Abs.Gain been calculated here so i can present it to my client.
unfortunatly, the example in the help section didnt help at all.
could some one please give me a good explanation and example so i can undrestand it.
sorry if i am being pain here, but i need to explain it to my client.
I have been asked to redo the calculation in excel to show then that my rturn are true based on what is been presented here at Myfxbook. however, i just keep getting diffrent numbers and canot match it.
please help
thanks
I am trying to undrestand how the Gain and Abs.Gain been calculated here so i can present it to my client.
unfortunatly, the example in the help section didnt help at all.
could some one please give me a good explanation and example so i can undrestand it.
sorry if i am being pain here, but i need to explain it to my client.
I have been asked to redo the calculation in excel to show then that my rturn are true based on what is been presented here at Myfxbook. however, i just keep getting diffrent numbers and canot match it.
please help
thanks
Miembro desde Jul 31, 2009
posts 1449
Mar 18, 2010 at 18:04
sdsarmad, absolute gain is a simple (profit/deposits)*100.
Cumulative gain on the other hand accumulates over your account's history. If you had one deposit only, the cumulative and the absolute gains would be the same. If you had multiple deposits, then for each deposit term, you need to calculate a yield (same formula as above) and sum it up.
Example:
1. Deposit $1000, profit $500, gain is 50%, balance is now $1500.
2. Deposit another $2000, profit $500, yield is (500/3500)*100 = 14.2%.
Cumulative yield is 50+14.2 = 64.2% and absolute yield is 1000/3000=33.3%.
Let us know if it's still unclear.
Cumulative gain on the other hand accumulates over your account's history. If you had one deposit only, the cumulative and the absolute gains would be the same. If you had multiple deposits, then for each deposit term, you need to calculate a yield (same formula as above) and sum it up.
Example:
1. Deposit $1000, profit $500, gain is 50%, balance is now $1500.
2. Deposit another $2000, profit $500, yield is (500/3500)*100 = 14.2%.
Cumulative yield is 50+14.2 = 64.2% and absolute yield is 1000/3000=33.3%.
Let us know if it's still unclear.
Jun 05, 2014 at 13:40
I have a question - I deposited only once, and yet:
Gain: +95.83%
Abs. Gain: +78.83%
So, the explanation given to sdsarmad is not entirely correct.
I don't understand yet how this number is achieved, although I used the formula written here.
Gain: +95.83%
Abs. Gain: +78.83%
So, the explanation given to sdsarmad is not entirely correct.
I don't understand yet how this number is achieved, although I used the formula written here.
investing.ts@
forex_trader_178891
Miembro desde Feb 26, 2014
posts 104
Jun 06, 2014 at 07:42
Remember there 2 number you have to pay attention : Gain & Abs. Gain .
In normal condition this 2 number must be the same (The closer 2 number the more accurate about the gain ) .
The 2 number would be different if :
- The trader withdraw the fund .
- The trader keep deposit the fund in order to lower the Drowdown . (DD ) .
The first case if the trader withdraw fund is good and healthy .
The second case is bad bad bad for follower .For trader him self may be ok if he has fund to put more and more every time he has big DD .For follower if you dont have money to add in your account than you will be wipe out .
Imagine At first trader had $10 k than he has big DD against him . let say 50% DD , than he deposit $10 k so the DD will become 25% ... and so on to void big DD or account wipe out .And of course the Gain & Abs. Gain will be different over time .
In normal condition this 2 number must be the same (The closer 2 number the more accurate about the gain ) .
The 2 number would be different if :
- The trader withdraw the fund .
- The trader keep deposit the fund in order to lower the Drowdown . (DD ) .
The first case if the trader withdraw fund is good and healthy .
The second case is bad bad bad for follower .For trader him self may be ok if he has fund to put more and more every time he has big DD .For follower if you dont have money to add in your account than you will be wipe out .
Imagine At first trader had $10 k than he has big DD against him . let say 50% DD , than he deposit $10 k so the DD will become 25% ... and so on to void big DD or account wipe out .And of course the Gain & Abs. Gain will be different over time .
forex_trader_178891
Miembro desde Feb 26, 2014
posts 104
Jun 16, 2014 at 02:07
as long as you deposit more than one time or withdraw the fund than the Gain & Abs. Gain will be different .
-Gain is the percentage gain base on first deposit .
-amp gain is the net gain ( The most correct one if you don't withdraw ) .
When you look at any account look at Gain & Abs. Gain .if you see 2 number different too much than you have to look at the withdraw .If you don't see the withdraw or the withdraw not too much than ONLY look at Abs. Gain (this is the most correct number ) . That is the absolutely gain ,means the real gain base on the total amount invest .
-Gain is the percentage gain base on first deposit .
-amp gain is the net gain ( The most correct one if you don't withdraw ) .
When you look at any account look at Gain & Abs. Gain .if you see 2 number different too much than you have to look at the withdraw .If you don't see the withdraw or the withdraw not too much than ONLY look at Abs. Gain (this is the most correct number ) . That is the absolutely gain ,means the real gain base on the total amount invest .
Feb 22, 2016 at 07:50
Could somebody explain me how is possible to have the following data with no withdrawals and some deposit done:
Gain 54,16%
Abs gain: 23,91%
Balance 27999
equity (93.65%) 26220
Profit 5403
Deposits 26075
How can the profit be 5403 if the difference between balance and deposits is 1924.57?
How can the abs gain be 23.91% when I if I divide profit/deposits*100 the result is 7,38%?
What am I doing wrong here?
Gain 54,16%
Abs gain: 23,91%
Balance 27999
equity (93.65%) 26220
Profit 5403
Deposits 26075
How can the profit be 5403 if the difference between balance and deposits is 1924.57?
How can the abs gain be 23.91% when I if I divide profit/deposits*100 the result is 7,38%?
What am I doing wrong here?
forex_trader_137597
Miembro desde Jul 04, 2013
posts 88
Feb 22, 2016 at 16:46
Are there any bonus credit in the account. Myfx book does not account credit of bonuses as balance so some figures get distorted.
Imagine I have account with 10$ bbonus credit and 5$ of real monye, Total 15$ of Balance If I profit 5$ the Myfxbook shows 100% gain in relation to REal credit only. Strange. This produces this kind of strange figures.
Imagine I have account with 10$ bbonus credit and 5$ of real monye, Total 15$ of Balance If I profit 5$ the Myfxbook shows 100% gain in relation to REal credit only. Strange. This produces this kind of strange figures.
forex_trader_137597
Miembro desde Jul 04, 2013
posts 88
Feb 22, 2016 at 16:46
(editado Feb 22, 2016 at 16:47)
tommy2308 posted:
Are there any bonus credit in the account. Myfx book does not account credit of bonuses as balance so some figures get distorted.
Imagine I have account with 10$ bbonus credit and 5$ of real monye, Total 15$ of Balance If I profit 5$ the Myfxbook shows 100% gain in relation to REal credit only. Strange. This produces this kind of strange figures.
when it should be 33%.
Many companies give per cent of credit boinus and my fx does not calculate it properly
Miembro desde Sep 20, 2011
posts 9
Sep 27, 2018 at 07:56
For all who dont understand abs. gain & Gain
abs.gain = Profit / Deposit!
10k account
1k Profit
1000/10000= 10% abs.gain (gain1)
---------------------------------
Gain:
11k account
2,2k Profit
20% (gain2)
Gain = 10% & Gain2= 20% = 30% Gain
abs.gain = Profit / Deposit!
10k account
1k Profit
1000/10000= 10% abs.gain (gain1)
---------------------------------
Gain:
11k account
2,2k Profit
20% (gain2)
Gain = 10% & Gain2= 20% = 30% Gain
- Disziplin Geduld Optimismus -
Miembro desde Sep 28, 2018
posts 10
Oct 05, 2018 at 10:18
Does abs gain include open positions or just closed positions on myfxbook?
Miembro desde Sep 20, 2011
posts 9
Oct 08, 2018 at 07:11
A small example:
- You deposit $10 (balance is now $10)
- You lose -$5 which is -50% (balance is now $5)
- You deposit another 95 (balance is now $100)
- You profit $6 which is 6% (balance is now $106)
Total gain is ((-5/10+1)(6/100+1)-1)*100=((0.5*1.06)-1)*100= -47%
- You deposit $10 (balance is now $10)
- You lose -$5 which is -50% (balance is now $5)
- You deposit another 95 (balance is now $100)
- You profit $6 which is 6% (balance is now $106)
Total gain is ((-5/10+1)(6/100+1)-1)*100=((0.5*1.06)-1)*100= -47%
- Disziplin Geduld Optimismus -
Miembro desde Sep 20, 2011
posts 9
Oct 08, 2018 at 07:11
Alligaturk posted:
For all who dont understand abs. gain & Gain
abs.gain = Profit / Deposit!
10k account
1k Profit
1000/10000= 10% abs.gain (gain1)
---------------------------------
A small example:
- You deposit $10 (balance is now $10)
- You lose -$5 which is -50% (balance is now $5)
- You deposit another 95 (balance is now $100)
- You profit $6 which is 6% (balance is now $106)
Total gain is ((-5/10+1)(6/100+1)-1)*100=((0.5*1.06)-1)*100= -47%
- Disziplin Geduld Optimismus -
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