eurgbp-scalping(1) (de jjpark1)
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Miembro desde Apr 20, 2010
posts 814
Apr 25, 2010 at 06:06
Miembro desde Apr 20, 2010
posts 814
I see, the interesting part is the Neuron Network. So how big the hard disk space will eat up by NN system ? As if too old history will not reflect the current fashion of market too.
NN System will just said as more sophiscated A.I. Intelligent, that's why you put a 3x martingale ? Or the NN will decided when to use multiply 1.5x, 2x, 3x ? As even human trade will have times of failure, so NN will have a times of failure too. Hopefully once in a blue moon.
Yes I do agree, if got NN system that can predict much better, a multiply x3 is much better way instead x2.
I also notice that the grid martingale is not fix, it like 22,23,28,58 . So this grid is fix or control by NN ?
As my experience in Martingale gird, that has Auto Grid Adjuster, custom gird, grid follow stochastic cross.
So far my experience tell me a martingale system must go for 100% over ROI per month , so it can harvest and qualified to sustain a margin call as you already get a 100% shield.
As your scalping martingale got the help from Neuron Network, I can see that the draw down is quite low only 8%. This case mean actually you can putting smaller capital in , to get higher ROI, or increase the MM to get higher gain and risk.
I can see that if the NN work perfectly, the ROI is 10-15%. But the market is rough and martingale did pull you back from the edge, you will have extra gain ROI like 52% which on 9 March, where 4 level of grid, 29,23,21,33, multiply x3, tp 27.
But some error of martingale grid happened on 25,26 Mac, where it did not close the grid correctly. Is it that you restart the platform causing NN system calculation error ? Or got line disconnection problem or that the NN detect that it has to take loss earlier.
So I looking forward to see how good then NN system able make use of martingale strategy to save the day.
Can we do system barter to exchange EA ? As i got a EA martingale that quite stable earning 10% using 500 capital, a wider range of grid so that 280 pips can hold and pull back from the edge when retrace.
https://www.myfxbook.com/portfolio/island-5/27525
NN System will just said as more sophiscated A.I. Intelligent, that's why you put a 3x martingale ? Or the NN will decided when to use multiply 1.5x, 2x, 3x ? As even human trade will have times of failure, so NN will have a times of failure too. Hopefully once in a blue moon.
Yes I do agree, if got NN system that can predict much better, a multiply x3 is much better way instead x2.
I also notice that the grid martingale is not fix, it like 22,23,28,58 . So this grid is fix or control by NN ?
As my experience in Martingale gird, that has Auto Grid Adjuster, custom gird, grid follow stochastic cross.
So far my experience tell me a martingale system must go for 100% over ROI per month , so it can harvest and qualified to sustain a margin call as you already get a 100% shield.
As your scalping martingale got the help from Neuron Network, I can see that the draw down is quite low only 8%. This case mean actually you can putting smaller capital in , to get higher ROI, or increase the MM to get higher gain and risk.
I can see that if the NN work perfectly, the ROI is 10-15%. But the market is rough and martingale did pull you back from the edge, you will have extra gain ROI like 52% which on 9 March, where 4 level of grid, 29,23,21,33, multiply x3, tp 27.
But some error of martingale grid happened on 25,26 Mac, where it did not close the grid correctly. Is it that you restart the platform causing NN system calculation error ? Or got line disconnection problem or that the NN detect that it has to take loss earlier.
So I looking forward to see how good then NN system able make use of martingale strategy to save the day.
Can we do system barter to exchange EA ? As i got a EA martingale that quite stable earning 10% using 500 capital, a wider range of grid so that 280 pips can hold and pull back from the edge when retrace.
https://www.myfxbook.com/portfolio/island-5/27525
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Apr 26, 2010 at 01:53
Miembro desde Nov 02, 2009
posts 18
pc8multifx posted:
Fantastic . If this is true , it would be the first NN-EA EVER which works.... I tested many, all went to the bin.
On the other side, with a clever Marty strategy u can trade what u want, u will come always out of the s..t when the entry was wrong.
Since the involved Marty on this system operates with a fix pip step its not really a smart one.. an adaptive one would improve the system.
just my 2 cents..
thanks.
JG Standard
Apr 26, 2010 at 01:56
Miembro desde Nov 02, 2009
posts 18
duzyfx posted:
another problem is that here you increase the risk 3x every time you 'miss it' ... how far can you go like that ???
1 3 9 27 81 243 729 .... ??? not far ...
this system has a limit of max lot..
and during backtesting.. and forward testing level 5 was maximum.. yet..
JG Standard
Apr 26, 2010 at 01:57
Miembro desde Nov 02, 2009
posts 18
forexma posted:
I'm not wondering how 23 pips = 87% profit - YES - it's a Martingale - THE SHORTEST WAY TO BANKRUPTCY.
this is not a stupid martingale..
i thinks pretty smart martingale.. -_-;
martingale + money management + A.I -> make money.. i think..
JG Standard
Apr 26, 2010 at 02:01
Miembro desde Nov 02, 2009
posts 18
Clearpaper posted:
jjpark1 posted:
yes 22pip is came from 25pip - 3pip (a spread of EURGBP)
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Architecture of this system is ...
EA has tree parts.
1. Normalizer
this part is calculating many values like previous price action, indicators, pivot and etc...
all input data of NN has to be normalized and this part is for it
2. Neural-Network
NN make decision for entry point.
3. Order Management
When orders are opened .. and it goes wrong way.. this part doing Martingale
of course all of martingale action will be processed by Neural-Network
1. 3 part is coded MQL4
2 part is coded by C++, compiled DLL
so entire picture is like this
MT4 <- > EA <-> DLL
Thank you for your explanation. It is indeed a learning experience.
What is your % accuracy so far?
And if using NN, why go for so few pips? Why not analyse for +50 pip movements and then go for +30 pip target profits?
according trading history..
winning trade without martingale was about 60%.. this is pure trading accuracy
this is just fitting to EURGBP. and for scalpers
Of course we have another BIG trading machine.. 100pip over per day.. with NN.. not Martingale..
JG Standard
Apr 26, 2010 at 02:11
Miembro desde Nov 02, 2009
posts 18
ForexSeeker posted:
I see, the interesting part is the Neuron Network. So how big the hard disk space will eat up by NN system ? As if too old history will not reflect the current fashion of market too.
NN System will just said as more sophiscated A.I. Intelligent, that's why you put a 3x martingale ? Or the NN will decided when to use multiply 1.5x, 2x, 3x ? As even human trade will have times of failure, so NN will have a times of failure too. Hopefully once in a blue moon.
Yes I do agree, if got NN system that can predict much better, a multiply x3 is much better way instead x2.
I also notice that the grid martingale is not fix, it like 22,23,28,58 . So this grid is fix or control by NN ?
As my experience in Martingale gird, that has Auto Grid Adjuster, custom gird, grid follow stochastic cross.
So far my experience tell me a martingale system must go for 100% over ROI per month , so it can harvest and qualified to sustain a margin call as you already get a 100% shield.
As your scalping martingale got the help from Neuron Network, I can see that the draw down is quite low only 8%. This case mean actually you can putting smaller capital in , to get higher ROI, or increase the MM to get higher gain and risk.
I can see that if the NN work perfectly, the ROI is 10-15%. But the market is rough and martingale did pull you back from the edge, you will have extra gain ROI like 52% which on 9 March, where 4 level of grid, 29,23,21,33, multiply x3, tp 27.
But some error of martingale grid happened on 25,26 Mac, where it did not close the grid correctly. Is it that you restart the platform causing NN system calculation error ? Or got line disconnection problem or that the NN detect that it has to take loss earlier.
So I looking forward to see how good then NN system able make use of martingale strategy to save the day.
Can we do system barter to exchange EA ? As i got a EA martingale that quite stable earning 10% using 500 capital, a wider range of grid so that 280 pips can hold and pull back from the edge when retrace.
https://www.myfxbook.com/portfolio/island-5/27525
1. actually it doesn't take space so much .. (10MB per currency) important thing is status of NN not history.
2. Martingale is my favorite trading style. multiply size will be decided by NN.. default is 3x
3. yes. martingale grid will be changed by NN
4. what happened at 25,26 Mac is closed by manually cause of system rebooting -_-;
JG Standard
Miembro desde Sep 04, 2009
posts 879
May 05, 2010 at 21:48
Miembro desde Sep 04, 2009
posts 879
jjpark1 posted:
forexma posted:
I'm not wondering how 23 pips = 87% profit - YES - it's a Martingale - THE SHORTEST WAY TO BANKRUPTCY.
this is not a stupid martingale..
i thinks pretty smart martingale.. -_-;
martingale + money management + A.I -> make money.. i think..
yeah, i see ..very smart
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