Best traders: How to detect them?

Dec 04, 2012 at 14:38
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Igor123472
forex_trader_75987
Участник с May 02, 2012   117 комментариев
Dec 04, 2012 at 14:38
This question could sounds simple but i would like of know: What the big difference between winners/losers traders?

Lets discuss the FA and TA also.

Some traders ignore FA because the media not always is true in your news... Anyway, one sum of Patience + Experience + Knowledge is required.

If the success had one equation, how would you write?

Regards.
Участник с Aug 29, 2011   63 комментариев
Dec 04, 2012 at 18:14
2:1 reward to risk ratio, 42% or more winners, risk no more than 2% on any trade, look for where the loser will lose, know the market structure, fundamentals move the markets, tech tells you where its going, always have a stop to ensure your 2:1 reward to risk ratio.
You will never go broke by taking profits
Участник с Jun 06, 2010   69 комментариев
Dec 04, 2012 at 21:18
Hi,

Trader found his way to win OVER TIME is a good trader. it does not matter TA or FA.
Don't allow yesterday's success to lull you into today's complacency, for this is the great foundation of failure.
Участник с Feb 08, 2012   48 комментариев
Dec 05, 2012 at 03:21
Just look at sharpe ratio. Mine is 1.45. Most mutual funds are @ 0.2-0.3 on average. Hedge funds varies, those quant funds are at 20+ apparently...But funds like Soros or Paulson are at 0.5-0.8?
Участник с May 17, 2012   221 комментариев
Dec 05, 2012 at 13:53
Repco posted:
Just look at sharpe ratio. Mine is 1.45. Most mutual funds are @ 0.2-0.3 on average. Hedge funds varies, those quant funds are at 20+ apparently...But funds like Soros or Paulson are at 0.5-0.8?
I think you'll find that hedge funds are trading with leverage of way under 10:1... and players like Soros probably are restricted to less than 5:1

Its difficult to make 10% a month with 2:1 leverage.
Wait for the trade to come to you... be patient.
Участник с Feb 08, 2012   48 комментариев
Dec 05, 2012 at 15:54
pt49 posted:
Repco posted:
Just look at sharpe ratio. Mine is 1.45. Most mutual funds are @ 0.2-0.3 on average. Hedge funds varies, those quant funds are at 20+ apparently...But funds like Soros or Paulson are at 0.5-0.8?
I think you'll find that hedge funds are trading with leverage of way under 10:1... and players like Soros probably are restricted to less than 5:1

Its difficult to make 10% a month with 2:1 leverage.

You remember how Soros broke the Bank of England? His position on FX across the board was 20:1 before equities. Hedge Funds actually do have 45X
Igor123472
forex_trader_75987
Участник с May 02, 2012   117 комментариев
Dec 06, 2012 at 00:31
Guys, at least like beginner i am developing my intuition sense... i don't know that only the reason could give considerable returns but experienced plus the instinct of a good trader.

I love to use fundamental analysis... more than TA, but usually markets turns volatile under a couple of words.
To be prepared to the risk of loss makes necessary as much as to stay psychologically calm with price variation have been separated the traders: winners and losers.

I am training to be winner: obviously.

I will repeat my initial question...: If the success had one equation, how would you write?
Участник с May 17, 2012   221 комментариев
Dec 06, 2012 at 01:12
Igor123472 posted:


I will repeat my initial question...: If the success had one equation, how would you write?
success = overcoming your (fear of loss + your greed) - your ego x patience
Wait for the trade to come to you... be patient.
Igor123472
forex_trader_75987
Участник с May 02, 2012   117 комментариев
Dec 06, 2012 at 01:21
thx 😄
Участник с Sep 04, 2009   28 комментариев
Dec 06, 2012 at 03:45
Igor123472 posted:
I will repeat my initial question...: If the success had one equation, how would you write?

Buy time, hedge everything.
I just trade.
Участник с Sep 04, 2009   28 комментариев
Dec 06, 2012 at 12:02
Bah can't edit a post, it should have read...

Buy time + hedge everything = confidence
I just trade.
Участник с May 30, 2012   134 комментариев
Dec 09, 2012 at 08:50
Succes = (Absolute Profit - Absolute losses) > Desired Profit
something like that :)
I am the change in the market that causes you to lose :p / Watch out before I negative pip you! ^^
Участник с Nov 09, 2012   76 комментариев
Dec 12, 2012 at 09:53
Financialarts, do you mean you get success only if you get more than desired profit? I don't think so. It just proves that you can't plan well results of your trading) If you get some profit for a long time, it's already the success.
If you want to end up with a nonaverage net worth, a “learn from someone else” attitude is paramount. Putting your ego aside and admitting that you don’t know it all isn’t easy, but it is the mindset of true winner ----Paul Tudor Jones.
Участник с May 30, 2012   134 комментариев
Dec 12, 2012 at 19:25
Dude thats what I said
I am the change in the market that causes you to lose :p / Watch out before I negative pip you! ^^
Участник с Dec 04, 2012   241 комментариев
Dec 12, 2012 at 19:40
What YOU plan as profit as profit doesn't mean anything. When you expect something to happen, it then means your trading with bias. You take what the market gives you, and try to be as least bias as you can be. Withdraw as much as you can. That is the only way to last long in this market.
Участник с May 30, 2012   134 комментариев
Dec 12, 2012 at 21:36
thats what i'm saying
I am the change in the market that causes you to lose :p / Watch out before I negative pip you! ^^
Участник с Sep 04, 2010   14 комментариев
Dec 13, 2012 at 05:52
STrange how everyone tries to analyse and figure out what is a good trader and what systems they use. Some may even ponder why you dont see these super beings on the forums and if there is a holy grail in trading. As a trader for almost 5 years ,i can tell you there is no secret or system only endurance.

Do what the turtles do by sticking to the system. You have to bench mark your system and change it all the time. There is no set system on the planet. Its all about dynamics and you can spot these traders by their opportunistic nature, its like business people some know when its a good deal and may even jump out of its comfort zone to get there. They get burned but always make a plan to heal their wounds. These traders are the traders that find a solution to a problem and just know when to get out. Its like riding a bicycle at hi speeds, you know how to ride the bike but you will fall off and even more so at higher speeds.

Stop searching for answers and trade because you love it and be dynamic, and dont look at my profile because i still suck at it but i know i will be dynamic and profitable in the end because i love trading. Maybe the answer to your question is ' The successful trader is the trader that loves trading more than life itself'. Good trading
Участник с Nov 09, 2012   76 комментариев
Dec 17, 2012 at 11:06
pietpip posted:
Maybe the answer to your question is ' The successful trader is the trader that loves trading more than life itself'. Good trading

Good point, only for the successful trader trading is a life already.
If you want to end up with a nonaverage net worth, a “learn from someone else” attitude is paramount. Putting your ego aside and admitting that you don’t know it all isn’t easy, but it is the mindset of true winner ----Paul Tudor Jones.
Участник с Dec 17, 2012   6 комментариев
Jan 16, 2013 at 06:57
Look at the win-percentage of the trades, simplest way.
Участник с Jan 10, 2013   286 комментариев
Jan 16, 2013 at 14:59
JohnMandrake posted:
Look at the win-percentage of the trades, simplest way.

What if the win percentage was 80% and your losses to wins are 6:1 like many scalpers are at best ...hmmmm John maths not your strong point?
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