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Tham gia từ May 04, 2012
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patrickx posted:
Btw. it's kind of strange as I see diff numbers than you have on your printscreen - I see 37% monthly avg vs. 35% DD...
can anybody else confirm what numbers he gets?
thanks
MickFxMasterGuru posted:patrickx posted:
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/patrickx/micks-trading--icmarkets-/1513366
@patrickx
Why not showing the account's ENTIRE trade history...?
Maybe because the Max. DD is more than 3x higher then the Average Monthly Profit...?
Isn't any other way to make this ratio looking better than limiting viewable trade history...?
@patrickx
You are right Patrick: 37% Monthly Profit with -35% max. DD... So it is not that bad, after all. I apologize.
But yeah, I would hide the -35% DD... Why...?
Because I would not invest $500k in a strategy with -35%, i.e. -$175,000 potential drawdown... Would you...?
Why did I mention $500k investment? Because with $500k and 37% monthly gain I could profit about $185k per year and after paying income taxes, I would have left with about $120k net profit per year, i.e. $10k a month. It would not make me ''rich'', but it would give me a decent standard of living in the western world.
In summary: I would have to watch my equity to drop by -175k to profit 10k/month... Well, it is not for me... A -$175k equity drop would be simply too steep for me - and bad for my sleep and health - for a $10k monthly profit.
Not to mention that if I were just an investor, I would be charged with pre-tax ''management fee'', so that $10k per month is probably just $6k/month for an investor client.
So what be a proposal for an investor client: ''You could expect net $6k per month if you were willing to watch your $500,000 invested equity to drop by -$175,000 without any guarantee of recovery.'' Right...?
P.S. As the below screenshot shows you have withdrawn your deposit completely - i.e. now you are playing 'risk-free' with the casino's chips - which shows that you have the same level of confidence in your strategy as I would have.
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Tham gia từ Jan 07, 2016
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Nov 06, 2016 at 07:02
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Guru,
Please read your sentence again and check the Math here:-)
In your example of 500k, I'm not sure where did you get 10k monthly? If my growth is 37% and max DD 35%, ratio is around 1:1. That means 185k MONTHLY profit with potential 170k risk, i.e. you need one month to COVER your max. DD if that happens. Sounds correct?
Obviously, adjusting your risk is possible so you can set 5% growth with 5% max. DD, whatever is comfortable for you. Risk is very individual thing and you're right that risking 30% of 1k is different thing than 30% DD of 500k.
Please read your sentence again and check the Math here:-)
In your example of 500k, I'm not sure where did you get 10k monthly? If my growth is 37% and max DD 35%, ratio is around 1:1. That means 185k MONTHLY profit with potential 170k risk, i.e. you need one month to COVER your max. DD if that happens. Sounds correct?
Obviously, adjusting your risk is possible so you can set 5% growth with 5% max. DD, whatever is comfortable for you. Risk is very individual thing and you're right that risking 30% of 1k is different thing than 30% DD of 500k.
FxMasterGuru posted:
Because with $500k and 37% monthly gain I could profit about $185k per year and after paying income taxes, I would have left with about $120k net profit per year, i.e. $10k a month. It would not make me ''rich'', but it would give me a decent standard of living in the western world. In summary: I would have to watch my equity to drop by -175k to profit 10k/month... Well, it is not for me..
My offers: FXCM $4.99/RT, Pepperstone Razor AUD$6/RT, VantageFX $4.30/RT, ICMarkets AUD$5.50/RT - no mark-up spread or slippage!
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https://www.myfxbook.com/members/doniperry/lionbrookefx/1772633
Trading for a while....but added $1K to this account on 9/1/2016
Good luck trading everyone.
Trading for a while....but added $1K to this account on 9/1/2016
Good luck trading everyone.
Tham gia từ May 04, 2012
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Nov 06, 2016 at 10:00
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patrickx posted:
Guru,
Please read your sentence again and check the Math here:-)
In your example of 500k, I'm not sure where did you get 10k monthly? If my growth is 37% and max DD 35%, ratio is around 1:1. That means 185k MONTHLY profit with potential 170k risk, i.e. you need one month to COVER your max. DD if that happens. Sounds correct?
Obviously, adjusting your risk is possible so you can set 5% growth with 5% max. DD, whatever is comfortable for you. Risk is very individual thing and you're right that risking 30% of 1k is different thing than 30% DD of 500k.FxMasterGuru posted:
Because with $500k and 37% monthly gain I could profit about $185k per year and after paying income taxes, I would have left with about $120k net profit per year, i.e. $10k a month. It would not make me ''rich'', but it would give me a decent standard of living in the western world. In summary: I would have to watch my equity to drop by -175k to profit 10k/month... Well, it is not for me..
@patrickx
Yes, you are right, my math was off. So I just wonder why haven't you invested more in the strategy instead of withdrawing your deposit?
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Tham gia từ Jan 07, 2016
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Nov 06, 2016 at 10:06
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Tham gia từ Jan 07, 2016
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testing more accounts / brokers / settings, overall more than 5k invested now on this strategy... but you're right, will add more funds in this 'display acc' soon...
FxMasterGuru posted:
@patrickx
Yes, you are right, my math was off. So I just wonder why haven't you invested more in the strategy instead of withdrawing your deposit?
My offers: FXCM $4.99/RT, Pepperstone Razor AUD$6/RT, VantageFX $4.30/RT, ICMarkets AUD$5.50/RT - no mark-up spread or slippage!
Tham gia từ May 04, 2012
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Nov 06, 2016 at 12:32
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Tham gia từ May 04, 2012
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patrickx posted:
testing more accounts / brokers / settings, overall more than 5k invested now on this strategy... but you're right, will add more funds in this 'display acc' soon...FxMasterGuru posted:
@patrickx
Yes, you are right, my math was off. So I just wonder why haven't you invested more in the strategy instead of withdrawing your deposit?
@patrickx
Finally, just a friendly advice. Should you decide to look after serious investors, start a showcase reference account with the largest deposit you can afford at a highly reputable broker, on which account the DD stays belows -10% (without using Custom Dates).
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- No grid, No martingale
- No hedging
- Use SL
- Use Money Management
- DD no more than 15%
Trade more 6 Months,500 trades.
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/nonameb3/real-tickmill/1617817
- No hedging
- Use SL
- Use Money Management
- DD no more than 15%
Trade more 6 Months,500 trades.
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/nonameb3/real-tickmill/1617817
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The test of the trading system from 1999. Real trading for over a year.
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/Yurkov/yd-stability/1373741
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/Yurkov/yd-stability/1373741
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Monitoring account using EA WD Gannn 😀
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Nov 09, 2016 at 11:04
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crux posted:
Two years of stable profit:
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/crux/bl-1/1096711
https://www.signalstart.com/analysis/good-profit-low-dd/1553
Drawdown not good. Looks like martingaile
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Nov 09, 2016 at 11:04
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Yurkov posted:Drawdown also bigger that total profit
The test of the trading system from 1999. Real trading for over a year.
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/Yurkov/yd-stability/1373741
We can invest 50-100k. Please PM me with real invest password last 6 Month Statement
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IvestINC posted:I agree with you!Yurkov posted:Drawdown also bigger that total profit
The test of the trading system from 1999. Real trading for over a year.
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/Yurkov/yd-stability/1373741
But the system uses an author's averaging method. Drawdown is inevitable here. But it is minimized as much as possible
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GLIFX posted:Abs. Gain:+26.54%
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GLIFX posted:
Best Forex Signl
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/GLIFX/pafxsignal/1814562
700% gin in 2 month....
The drawdown is scary and it has occurred on a very small number of trades.
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