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May 30, 2012 at 14:56
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Tham gia từ Nov 12, 2009
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Jul 19, 2012 at 03:23
This strategy did great in December 2011. Then drawdown in January. Recovery in February. After that I don´t know what happened. Now the vendor started fresh since late May. So it has big dips in the equity curve and big swoon upwards. Too bad vendor starts a new account and we don´t get to see continuous trading history.
Jul 19, 2012 at 09:52
That was 'interbank trade advisor', IBT auto is a new system and started going for sale july 8th. Interbank Trade Advisor's strategy was changed a few months ago because of too much volatility, it was not sustainable with high leverage. Now the system is using the same methodology as IBT auto but taking smaller timeframe targets. We have a forward test running both we will have up soon so people can see how they work together
No trade is better than a losing trade
Tham gia từ Nov 12, 2009
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Jul 19, 2012 at 10:55
It is evident that only EURUSD and AUDJPY are outperforming well. Have you considered removing the other pairs?
The equity curve between 'AUTO' and 'advisor' seem like the two strategies are very correlated. Only difference is 'advisor' has been trading 2.0 lots since start while 'AUTO' started out with 0.50 lots and now is trading 1.5 lots. Thus, 'advisor' carries more leverage (higher return, dd). Interesting to note the sharp difference in performance of AUDJPY between the two strategies while EURUSD has maintained the same pips per trade (6 pips per trade average).
The equity curve between 'AUTO' and 'advisor' seem like the two strategies are very correlated. Only difference is 'advisor' has been trading 2.0 lots since start while 'AUTO' started out with 0.50 lots and now is trading 1.5 lots. Thus, 'advisor' carries more leverage (higher return, dd). Interesting to note the sharp difference in performance of AUDJPY between the two strategies while EURUSD has maintained the same pips per trade (6 pips per trade average).
Jul 19, 2012 at 11:57
The only reason why audjpy and audusd are performing better recently is because they are in defined trend series that our system is good with, right now euro, eurjpy etc.. are a more messy so we are avoiding them . Our downside targets are considered hit on euro so we are buyers on a confirmed bottom, or we are staying out ( exactly what we are doing now). There is no reason to remove pairs because its not a function of what pair works better then others it more has to do with whats worth trading at the moment.
The real foward test of IBT auto starts when the size changes to 1.5 lots and max open trades are 6. Everything before that was more a mix of things and we kept this test up because it was profitable. If you look at it correctly when it was trading .5 lots there were as many as 16-20 trades open at once. this is not how the ea service runs and the cause for the big equity curve dips. its much smoother now and will be from here out.
for a better test that is more clear from when exactly the final product started trading publicly check out these tests
https://forexverified.com/reports/ibtauto/ibtauto001.html
https://www.bestforexrobots.net/ibt-auto.html
The real foward test of IBT auto starts when the size changes to 1.5 lots and max open trades are 6. Everything before that was more a mix of things and we kept this test up because it was profitable. If you look at it correctly when it was trading .5 lots there were as many as 16-20 trades open at once. this is not how the ea service runs and the cause for the big equity curve dips. its much smoother now and will be from here out.
for a better test that is more clear from when exactly the final product started trading publicly check out these tests
https://forexverified.com/reports/ibtauto/ibtauto001.html
https://www.bestforexrobots.net/ibt-auto.html
No trade is better than a losing trade
forex_trader_12567
Tham gia từ May 29, 2010
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Jul 23, 2012 at 20:41
jsantos3 posted:
It is evident that only EURUSD and AUDJPY are outperforming well. Have you considered removing the other pairs?
The equity curve between 'AUTO' and 'advisor' seem like the two strategies are very correlated. Only difference is 'advisor' has been trading 2.0 lots since start while 'AUTO' started out with 0.50 lots and now is trading 1.5 lots. Thus, 'advisor' carries more leverage (higher return, dd). Interesting to note the sharp difference in performance of AUDJPY between the two strategies while EURUSD has maintained the same pips per trade (6 pips per trade average).
Nice research..
Tham gia từ Sep 12, 2009
313bài viết
Jul 23, 2012 at 21:04
ibtaforex posted:
That was 'interbank trade advisor', IBT auto is a new system and started going for sale july 8th. Interbank Trade Advisor's strategy was changed a few months ago because of too much volatility, it was not sustainable with high leverage. Now the system is using the same methodology as IBT auto but taking smaller timeframe targets. We have a forward test running both we will have up soon so people can see how they work together
look at this ,Please dont sell junk
https://forexverified.com/reports/interbanktradeadvisor/interbanktradeadvisor001.html
Aug 04, 2012 at 07:44
kishorejoga posted:
look at this ,Please dont sell junk
https://forexverified.com/reports/interbanktradeadvisor/interbanktradeadvisor001.html
Birts test is most accurate as he has been running Interbank Trade Advisor live since january and using proper leverage. The old strategy right into the new.
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/birt/interbank-trade-advisor/229293
When the strategy changed in end july/june, he is almost back up. He also has the EA set to only EURUSD trading so he has missed some gaining trades in AUD that Interbank Trade Advisor took this past month. Had those been taken he would be alteast break even now.
Bottom line is Interbank Trade Advisor did bad this year. IBT auto is new and we slapped the IBT auto EURUSD strategy into interbank trade advisor and trade it more more agressive than ibt auto trades eurusd. both systems are kicking butt right now there is no denying that. We will have an account of both ea's running at the same time that will be posted soon.
No trade is better than a losing trade
Tham gia từ Jul 02, 2012
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Aug 08, 2012 at 23:23
Track Record Not Verified ?
Trading Privileges Not Verified ?
Why?
If you don't have something to hide,then allow myfxbook to verify it.
Trading Privileges Not Verified ?
Why?
If you don't have something to hide,then allow myfxbook to verify it.
Aug 09, 2012 at 06:23
webroister posted:
Track Record Not Verified ?
Trading Privileges Not Verified ?
Why?
If you don't have something to hide,then allow myfxbook to verify it.
We don't have anything to hide, you can compare to https://forexverified.com/reports/ibtauto/ibtauto001.html and https://www.mt4i.com/users/ibt-auto . We will check how to get the verification working and add it.
No trade is better than a losing trade
Sep 09, 2012 at 03:32
We would not like to anticipate it however we can't tell the market what to do, we can only do our best to minimize risk and try and improve on doing that. on our end we are trading above or initial balance so 40% DD off the top is not what it is for us, but understad the whole point is for new people to jump on board at any time. The only thing i can say is you have to consider our deepest corrections and factor that in when figuring out leverage along with where we are at our performance ( peak or durring a dip) at the time of joining. We unfotunatly have most people subscribe when we are at highs and leave as soon as we have DD. This is just like bad trading, and why they are likely looking for a service to trade for them. The smartest traders we see are the ones who subscribe when we have a dip and don't intervene with our trades. It takes patience and some trading and psylogical market experience to sucessfully have a service or ea trade for you .
No trade is better than a losing trade
Sep 12, 2012 at 06:04
I understand that. I think what most of us are looking for, is the risk profile. If we know that you will let trades go into -40% drawdown area, then that means that you can do it again. For some this is acceptible. for others, this is a tremendous amount of risk to take, and a very retail style of trading. 40% drawdowns would hardly ever be used on large money accounts.
Sep 12, 2012 at 12:32
(đã sửa Sep 12, 2012 at 12:33)
yes but you are not factoring in the leverage. our initial deposit we started with 16:1 leverage. large accounts should be more at 3:1 tops . So if you are looking to use any leverage and not have some DD then your expectations are too high for any EA or investing for that matter. Actually for most EA's they need to increase leverage to make gains, most of them do not move foward in true pip gain. We are using the same leverage we started with so our only gains are what pips we make, which is much more difficult but true for long term growth. One thing to note, we don't have large single losing trades, our issue is we have a low percentage of wining trades. That being said we win about 38% of the time and are positive. This is our edge right now. This is one of the things we are looking to improve and what we need to do is lower our trade volume which should get rid of some of the small losers in between the bigger winners which add up and cause the DD you see.
No trade is better than a losing trade
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