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Tham gia từ Jan 14, 2010
449bài viết
Sep 04, 2010 at 00:39
bluemele posted:
Well, if Manners were a requirement, very few people would be using these boards... :) Most likely including myself.
If he is a di*k, then so be it, we all know it now, let's move on. There are few people on this site or in forex in general as Steve put it so elegantly earlier that are worth their weight in 'salt' anyways. The # of scumbags in this business is overwhelming, but that is not my problem and neither is it if some guy gets kicked off a forum for cussing and being a jerk.
Fact is a fact. If an EA works, it works. If it doesn't, it doesn't....
This does seem to work, unless he is manipulating things. We all have a right to not buy it because he is rude... or whatever other reason. :)
I said earlier, I'm rude only with these idiots who deserve it.
I'm very polite & nice with friends and customers :)
Money makes more money $ ... $$$
Tham gia từ May 01, 2010
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Sep 04, 2010 at 03:52
Well, at least there is a lot of passion around your software.
Honestly, if someone takes something existing, packages it up and sells it, I don't see the issue. However, if it is truly 'stolen' then that is another thing. It is really up to the vendor who you supposedly stole it from to have the issue. Otherwise, it is really none of our business.
Microsoft stole Apple and IBM's 'code', Apple has done the same etc...
I wonder if the vendor who the software was 'supposedly' stolen from has a system up here as well? That would be interesting.
Oh, and the comment about missing the point... Maybe, but I don't think so... :)
I will zone out at this point, none of my business, but I do enjoy a good EA that is performing, even if it is 'stolen'....
Honestly, if someone takes something existing, packages it up and sells it, I don't see the issue. However, if it is truly 'stolen' then that is another thing. It is really up to the vendor who you supposedly stole it from to have the issue. Otherwise, it is really none of our business.
Microsoft stole Apple and IBM's 'code', Apple has done the same etc...
I wonder if the vendor who the software was 'supposedly' stolen from has a system up here as well? That would be interesting.
Oh, and the comment about missing the point... Maybe, but I don't think so... :)
I will zone out at this point, none of my business, but I do enjoy a good EA that is performing, even if it is 'stolen'....
Be Open, honest and ethical and all the $$$ you want will come. (hint hint)
Tham gia từ Jun 24, 2010
124bài viết
Sep 04, 2010 at 06:17
(đã sửa Sep 04, 2010 at 06:18)
Taking codes from others without asking permission from owner, not indicating the source where he has taken from and not giving credits to the rightful owner is a thief, an infringement of copyright.
Since Primeval contains stolen codes, it should be made free for all and not charging 600 bucks. Maybe 49 bucks for his effort to consolidate from other owners and giving credits to them in the manual.
Therefore, for this product, I would support distributing it for free on every public forum.
Since Primeval contains stolen codes, it should be made free for all and not charging 600 bucks. Maybe 49 bucks for his effort to consolidate from other owners and giving credits to them in the manual.
Therefore, for this product, I would support distributing it for free on every public forum.
Tham gia từ Jan 14, 2010
449bài viết
Sep 04, 2010 at 06:36
(đã sửa Sep 04, 2010 at 06:39)
kobebeef posted:
Taking codes from others without asking permission from owner, not indicating the source where he has taken from and not giving credits to the rightful owner is a thief, an infringement of copyright.
Since Primeval contains stolen codes, it should be made free for all and not charging 600 bucks. Maybe 49 bucks for his effort to consolidate from other owners and giving credits to them in the manual.
Therefore, for this product, I would support distributing it for free on every public forum.
Just go to hell 'kobebeef ', you won't never stop my business, I'll always sell my great & original EA, share version 2.2 if you can.
Maybe I can't stop some illegal copies but you and other people can't also stop me from selling, I can assure you 100%, if that's your goal simply go to hell you naive.
Money makes more money $ ... $$$
Tham gia từ Jun 24, 2010
124bài viết
Sep 04, 2010 at 06:39
primevalea posted:
kobebeef posted:
Taking codes from others without asking permission from owner, not indicating the source where he has taken from and not giving credits to the rightful owner is a thief, an infringement of copyright.
Since Primeval contains stolen codes, it should be made free for all and not charging 600 bucks. Maybe 49 bucks for his effort to consolidate from other owners and giving credits to them in the manual.
Therefore, for this product, I would support distributing it for free on every public forum.
Just go to hell 'kobebeef ', you won't never stop my business, I'll always sell my great & original EA, share version 2.2 if you can.
I hope you dun stop your business so that we can help to distribute for you free of charge.
Tham gia từ Jan 14, 2010
449bài viết
Sep 04, 2010 at 06:40
kobebeef posted:
primevalea posted:
kobebeef posted:
Taking codes from others without asking permission from owner, not indicating the source where he has taken from and not giving credits to the rightful owner is a thief, an infringement of copyright.
Since Primeval contains stolen codes, it should be made free for all and not charging 600 bucks. Maybe 49 bucks for his effort to consolidate from other owners and giving credits to them in the manual.
Therefore, for this product, I would support distributing it for free on every public forum.
Just go to hell 'kobebeef ', you won't never stop my business, I'll always sell my great & original EA, share version 2.2 if you can.
I hope you dun stop your business so that we can help to distribute for you free of charge.
Don't worry I won't for a long time at least till I'm wealthy enough 😁.
Money makes more money $ ... $$$
Tham gia từ Jun 24, 2010
124bài viết
Sep 04, 2010 at 06:53
primevalea posted:
kobebeef posted:
primevalea posted:
kobebeef posted:
Taking codes from others without asking permission from owner, not indicating the source where he has taken from and not giving credits to the rightful owner is a thief, an infringement of copyright.
Since Primeval contains stolen codes, it should be made free for all and not charging 600 bucks. Maybe 49 bucks for his effort to consolidate from other owners and giving credits to them in the manual.
Therefore, for this product, I would support distributing it for free on every public forum.
Just go to hell 'kobebeef ', you won't never stop my business, I'll always sell my great & original EA, share version 2.2 if you can.
I hope you dun stop your business so that we can help to distribute for you free of charge.
Don't worry I won't for a long time at least till I'm wealthy enough 😁.
That's provided the EA going to work and you keeping it for yourself. Because you will not get much sales, maybe one or two. Your risk free income will diminished and you have to risk your money on the EA.
As you can see now, most people dun bother if the codes were stolen as long as the EA is performing. They will be more delighted to have it for free.
Tham gia từ May 01, 2010
272bài viết
Sep 04, 2010 at 15:38
kobebeef posted:
Taking codes from others without asking permission from owner, not indicating the source where he has taken from and not giving credits to the rightful owner is a thief, an infringement of copyright.
Since Primeval contains stolen codes, it should be made free for all and not charging 600 bucks. Maybe 49 bucks for his effort to consolidate from other owners and giving credits to them in the manual.
Therefore, for this product, I would support distributing it for free on every public forum.
If you think about what you said here, you are asking to use this EA for 'free' or for a more affordable price?
Wouldn't you then be an 'accomplice' or whatever they call it? So your main 'Beef' (pardon the Pun) is that you want it, but it is too expensive and so there is a threshold for stolen code in your eyes?
If it is stolen, then the authorities need to be notified and a settlement should be reached. Maybe when he is rich enough the previous copyright holder will do that. Otherwise it is his/her option to pursue it and in my opinion unless you are Interpol or some other form of policing unit, then it is not your responsibility. If you feel that strongly, my suggestion is you report him to the authorities for them to investigate or contact the previous owners.
Otherwise, it sounds like a two siblings blaming each other for hitting first.... :)
Be Open, honest and ethical and all the $$$ you want will come. (hint hint)
Tham gia từ Jan 14, 2010
449bài viết
Sep 04, 2010 at 17:43
(đã sửa Sep 04, 2010 at 17:44)
bluemele posted:
kobebeef posted:
Taking codes from others without asking permission from owner, not indicating the source where he has taken from and not giving credits to the rightful owner is a thief, an infringement of copyright.
Since Primeval contains stolen codes, it should be made free for all and not charging 600 bucks. Maybe 49 bucks for his effort to consolidate from other owners and giving credits to them in the manual.
Therefore, for this product, I would support distributing it for free on every public forum.
If you think about what you said here, you are asking to use this EA for 'free' or for a more affordable price?
Wouldn't you then be an 'accomplice' or whatever they call it? So your main 'Beef' (pardon the Pun) is that you want it, but it is too expensive and so there is a threshold for stolen code in your eyes?
If it is stolen, then the authorities need to be notified and a settlement should be reached. Maybe when he is rich enough the previous copyright holder will do that. Otherwise it is his/her option to pursue it and in my opinion unless you are Interpol or some other form of policing unit, then it is not your responsibility. If you feel that strongly, my suggestion is you report him to the authorities for them to investigate or contact the previous owners.
Otherwise, it sounds like a two siblings blaming each other for hitting first.... :)
He's just an idiot and I get sales from many countries that never even visit those illegal forums He might know, if I find one I ask the owners to set it in their 'forbidden sharing list' or the whole forum would be taken down, it's that simple. Besides there are honest people that would still be willing to buy the EA if they think it works and will make them money.
Money makes more money $ ... $$$
forex_trader_1388
Tham gia từ Oct 04, 2009
4bài viết
Sep 04, 2010 at 17:44
I believe the PrimevalEA should be tested on real money for at least 3 months and judge from there.
Every EA has a downtime. The true test is if the EA is resilient enough to get back on its feet which I think PrimevalEA has the ability of doing.
Like manual trading forex robots take time and guts to continue doing.
If you don't have faith in any EA then refund it.
Be constructive in your criticism because not all buyers of PrimevalEA are disappointed with it.
The real challenge for PrimevalEA is if can be as consistent as Forex Megadroid which I believe is the best commercially sold EA out there.
I'm with your PrimevalEA. You are on your way
Every EA has a downtime. The true test is if the EA is resilient enough to get back on its feet which I think PrimevalEA has the ability of doing.
Like manual trading forex robots take time and guts to continue doing.
If you don't have faith in any EA then refund it.
Be constructive in your criticism because not all buyers of PrimevalEA are disappointed with it.
The real challenge for PrimevalEA is if can be as consistent as Forex Megadroid which I believe is the best commercially sold EA out there.
I'm with your PrimevalEA. You are on your way
Tham gia từ Jan 14, 2010
449bài viết
Sep 04, 2010 at 17:48
(đã sửa Sep 04, 2010 at 17:48)
robinlivemd posted:
I believe the PrimevalEA should be tested on real money for at least 3 months and judge from there.
Every EA has a downtime. The true test is if the EA is resilient enough to get back on its feet which I think PrimevalEA has the ability of doing.
Like manual trading forex robots take time and guts to continue doing.
If you don't have faith in any EA then refund it.
Be constructive in your criticism because not all buyers of PrimevalEA are disappointed with it.
The real challenge for PrimevalEA is if can be as consistent as Forex Megadroid which I believe is the best commercially sold EA out there.
I'm with your PrimevalEA. You are on your way
OK, thanks, well Megadroid has the 'advantage' of trading every time your wife can give birth to a new child, that's why it might look so 'consistent' sometimes 😁. But it's a good EA that can be combined with any other exactly because of that, it really doesn't trade often but when it reaches a SL it's also painful.
Money makes more money $ ... $$$
Tham gia từ May 01, 2010
272bài viết
Sep 04, 2010 at 20:54
primevalea posted:
robinlivemd posted:
I believe the PrimevalEA should be tested on real money for at least 3 months and judge from there.
Every EA has a downtime. The true test is if the EA is resilient enough to get back on its feet which I think PrimevalEA has the ability of doing.
Like manual trading forex robots take time and guts to continue doing.
If you don't have faith in any EA then refund it.
Be constructive in your criticism because not all buyers of PrimevalEA are disappointed with it.
The real challenge for PrimevalEA is if can be as consistent as Forex Megadroid which I believe is the best commercially sold EA out there.
I'm with your PrimevalEA. You are on your way
OK, thanks, well Megadroid has the 'advantage' of trading every time your wife can give birth to a new child, that's why it might look so 'consistent' sometimes 😁. But it's a good EA that can be combined with any other exactly because of that, it really doesn't trade often but when it reaches a SL it's also painful.
Well, I don't need any more children! :) haha...
Be Open, honest and ethical and all the $$$ you want will come. (hint hint)
forex_trader_1388
Tham gia từ Oct 04, 2009
4bài viết
Sep 05, 2010 at 03:26
primevalea posted:
robinlivemd posted:
I believe the PrimevalEA should be tested on real money for at least 3 months and judge from there.
Every EA has a downtime. The true test is if the EA is resilient enough to get back on its feet which I think PrimevalEA has the ability of doing.
Like manual trading forex robots take time and guts to continue doing.
If you don't have faith in any EA then refund it.
Be constructive in your criticism because not all buyers of PrimevalEA are disappointed with it.
The real challenge for PrimevalEA is if can be as consistent as Forex Megadroid which I believe is the best commercially sold EA out there.
I'm with your PrimevalEA. You are on your way
OK, thanks, well Megadroid has the 'advantage' of trading every time your wife can give birth to a new child, that's why it might look so 'consistent' sometimes 😁. But it's a good EA that can be combined with any other exactly because of that, it really doesn't trade often but when it reaches a SL it's also painful.
That is true hehe. But I think the community here is looking for a scalper that trades almost everyday and shows good results. Megadroid is for people who are very conservative.
PrimevalEA is possible number 1 here. In close contention to it is Forex Shocker
Tham gia từ Jun 24, 2010
124bài viết
Sep 05, 2010 at 06:54
(đã sửa Sep 05, 2010 at 07:09)
bluemele posted:
kobebeef posted:
Taking codes from others without asking permission from owner, not indicating the source where he has taken from and not giving credits to the rightful owner is a thief, an infringement of copyright.
Since Primeval contains stolen codes, it should be made free for all and not charging 600 bucks. Maybe 49 bucks for his effort to consolidate from other owners and giving credits to them in the manual.
Therefore, for this product, I would support distributing it for free on every public forum.
If you think about what you said here, you are asking to use this EA for 'free' or for a more affordable price?
Wouldn't you then be an 'accomplice' or whatever they call it? So your main 'Beef' (pardon the Pun) is that you want it, but it is too expensive and so there is a threshold for stolen code in your eyes?
If it is stolen, then the authorities need to be notified and a settlement should be reached. Maybe when he is rich enough the previous copyright holder will do that. Otherwise it is his/her option to pursue it and in my opinion unless you are Interpol or some other form of policing unit, then it is not your responsibility. If you feel that strongly, my suggestion is you report him to the authorities for them to investigate or contact the previous owners.
Otherwise, it sounds like a two siblings blaming each other for hitting first.... :)
It's none of your business what I'm going to do. My existing portfolio of EA, excluding Primeval, is making me rich enough to do that. It doesn't cost a single cent to get a copy, post it on a public forum asking coders to crack and then ask for refund.
Tham gia từ Jun 24, 2010
124bài viết
Sep 05, 2010 at 07:58
(đã sửa Sep 05, 2010 at 08:05)
primevalea posted:
bluemele posted:
Well, if Manners were a requirement, very few people would be using these boards... :) Most likely including myself.
If he is a di*k, then so be it, we all know it now, let's move on. There are few people on this site or in forex in general as Steve put it so elegantly earlier that are worth their weight in 'salt' anyways. The # of scumbags in this business is overwhelming, but that is not my problem and neither is it if some guy gets kicked off a forum for cussing and being a jerk.
Fact is a fact. If an EA works, it works. If it doesn't, it doesn't....
This does seem to work, unless he is manipulating things. We all have a right to not buy it because he is rude... or whatever other reason. :)
I said earlier, I'm rude only with these idiots who deserve it.
I'm very polite & nice with friends and customers :)
That's not true. I followed the lead from Indo forum to read the discussion on Forex Peace Army that you revoked one of your customers license just because he has written a bad review of your EA. And you have not refund his money. His name was Dave.
I was very impressed with Indo forum, they have many good MQL programmers who has the ability to crack EA and share them on the same forum or post them on a Russian file depository service. Impressive.
Tham gia từ Jan 14, 2010
449bài viết
Sep 05, 2010 at 17:51
kobebeef posted:
bluemele posted:
kobebeef posted:
Taking codes from others without asking permission from owner, not indicating the source where he has taken from and not giving credits to the rightful owner is a thief, an infringement of copyright.
Since Primeval contains stolen codes, it should be made free for all and not charging 600 bucks. Maybe 49 bucks for his effort to consolidate from other owners and giving credits to them in the manual.
Therefore, for this product, I would support distributing it for free on every public forum.
If you think about what you said here, you are asking to use this EA for 'free' or for a more affordable price?
Wouldn't you then be an 'accomplice' or whatever they call it? So your main 'Beef' (pardon the Pun) is that you want it, but it is too expensive and so there is a threshold for stolen code in your eyes?
If it is stolen, then the authorities need to be notified and a settlement should be reached. Maybe when he is rich enough the previous copyright holder will do that. Otherwise it is his/her option to pursue it and in my opinion unless you are Interpol or some other form of policing unit, then it is not your responsibility. If you feel that strongly, my suggestion is you report him to the authorities for them to investigate or contact the previous owners.
Otherwise, it sounds like a two siblings blaming each other for hitting first.... :)
It's none of your business what I'm going to do. My existing portfolio of EA, excluding Primeval, is making me rich enough to do that. It doesn't cost a single cent to get a copy, post it on a public forum asking coders to crack and then ask for refund.
haha, you make me laugh, 'you're getting rich' with your EA portfolios, sure and you never lose either....
Money makes more money $ ... $$$
Tham gia từ Jan 14, 2010
449bài viết
Sep 05, 2010 at 17:54
(đã sửa Sep 05, 2010 at 17:55)
kobebeef posted:
primevalea posted:
bluemele posted:
Well, if Manners were a requirement, very few people would be using these boards... :) Most likely including myself.
If he is a di*k, then so be it, we all know it now, let's move on. There are few people on this site or in forex in general as Steve put it so elegantly earlier that are worth their weight in 'salt' anyways. The # of scumbags in this business is overwhelming, but that is not my problem and neither is it if some guy gets kicked off a forum for cussing and being a jerk.
Fact is a fact. If an EA works, it works. If it doesn't, it doesn't....
This does seem to work, unless he is manipulating things. We all have a right to not buy it because he is rude... or whatever other reason. :)
I said earlier, I'm rude only with these idiots who deserve it.
I'm very polite & nice with friends and customers :)
That's not true. I followed the lead from Indo forum to read the discussion on Forex Peace Army that you revoked one of your customers license just because he has written a bad review of your EA. And you have not refund his money. His name was Dave.
I was very impressed with Indo forum, they have many good MQL programmers who has the ability to crack EA and share them on the same forum or post them on a Russian file depository service. Impressive.
Well, if I see my EA there I swear I'll take down the forum, try me, I want to see my EA shared there again, currently it's in the forbidden list, I'll file a complaint against the forum and also alarm all other developers about this shit.
Money makes more money $ ... $$$
Tham gia từ Jan 14, 2010
449bài viết
Sep 05, 2010 at 17:59
(đã sửa Sep 05, 2010 at 18:27)
'Mr. kobebeef', it's not a secret that every software out there can be cracked and shared illegally, you think that by posting this shit you can ruin my business, there are honest people that will always buy the EA and other software legally as it should be and simply request a refund in case they need it, illegal users have 0 guarantee & support not updates and are simply Forex Losers like you anyway, I'm sure, that's why desperately you need to test every cracked system out there to find a hope for your losing money.
Money makes more money $ ... $$$
Tham gia từ Jun 24, 2010
124bài viết
Sep 06, 2010 at 05:29
primevalea posted:
haha, you make me laugh, 'you're getting rich' with your EA portfolios, sure and you never lose either....
You have just made another joke out of yourself again. If EA does not made me rich, then why are you selling your EA. You are telling us that your EA will not make us rich!!! If your EA does not make us rich, it will make us poorer. We got the point, thanks!
As you have admitted that most EA out there were crack version of other existing EA, and so is yours. Thanks for confirming the second time that you a thief stealing codes from others.
The fact that we are in Australia enjoying our vacations now has proven that good EA does exist.
Most of the good EA are not commercially available.
Tham gia từ Jun 24, 2010
124bài viết
Sep 06, 2010 at 05:32
primevalea posted:
Well, if I see my EA there I swear I'll take down the forum, try me, I want to see my EA shared there again, currently it's in the forbidden list, I'll file a complaint against the forum and also alarm all other developers about this shit.
No worry, we will not publish it publicly. I will contact a few of the good coders on those forum to help cracking it. Then we'll mail to everyone in those forums.
Since you have admitted that your EA contains stolen codes, there is no reason for others to protect your loots.
