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Oct 03, 2012 at 03:59
I believe that this is my first post on this site. I thought I would provide some feedback from someone that is still using the product. I also take full responsibility for purchasing the product. No one forced me to purchase TOMSEA...I used the 60 day trial period to decide whether to keep the product.
I originally subscribed to TOMS EA in January 2012. I started with a $5,000 balance using the mirror trader platform with WorldProFX. I followed the Best Practices risk management rules as provided on the website trading EURUSD and GBPUSD at Risk Level 1. Over the inital couple of months (60 day trial period) the EA worked as advertised with a 20% profit on my account. Then the major downtrend occurred in both the GBP and EUR currencies. This created a drawdown of 50% on my account so I now had a balance of $3,000.
I contacted customer service at this point. The recommendation from the TOMSEA service team was to trade pairs that did not include GBP or EUR. I was also told the the logic of the EA would change to better manage these huge drawdowns. I decided to trade USDCAD pair at Risk Level 1 and now have a balance of $3,600.
I have recently contacted customer service to get a status on the logical change to the drawdowns. I also wanted to know if it was safe to trade the EURUSD pair which is the top ranked pair to trade on the TOMSEA website. I was told by customer service that the changes are still to be implemented later this year. Customer service also recommended that I should trade the EURUSD pair using the EA platform, not the mirror trade platform. I find this puzzling since the recommendation on this forum is to use the mirror trading platform.
I plan on continuing to use TOMSEA (ProfitAgent) but my results over the past 9 months show a loss of approximately 30%. This is significantly different than advertised. I only hope that modifications to the logic governing the large drawdowns ensures that history will not repeat itself. Even if it doesn't, it may be a couple of years before I get back to breakeven.
I would like to know the status of the changes being made to manage large drawdowns. To me, this is a significant flaw to being able to generate profits over a long period. When indicators show that a trend is developing in a currency pair then I would hope that some 'new' logic is applied. No one has explained when or what the changes will be. Dustin...could you please elaborate on this?
I originally subscribed to TOMS EA in January 2012. I started with a $5,000 balance using the mirror trader platform with WorldProFX. I followed the Best Practices risk management rules as provided on the website trading EURUSD and GBPUSD at Risk Level 1. Over the inital couple of months (60 day trial period) the EA worked as advertised with a 20% profit on my account. Then the major downtrend occurred in both the GBP and EUR currencies. This created a drawdown of 50% on my account so I now had a balance of $3,000.
I contacted customer service at this point. The recommendation from the TOMSEA service team was to trade pairs that did not include GBP or EUR. I was also told the the logic of the EA would change to better manage these huge drawdowns. I decided to trade USDCAD pair at Risk Level 1 and now have a balance of $3,600.
I have recently contacted customer service to get a status on the logical change to the drawdowns. I also wanted to know if it was safe to trade the EURUSD pair which is the top ranked pair to trade on the TOMSEA website. I was told by customer service that the changes are still to be implemented later this year. Customer service also recommended that I should trade the EURUSD pair using the EA platform, not the mirror trade platform. I find this puzzling since the recommendation on this forum is to use the mirror trading platform.
I plan on continuing to use TOMSEA (ProfitAgent) but my results over the past 9 months show a loss of approximately 30%. This is significantly different than advertised. I only hope that modifications to the logic governing the large drawdowns ensures that history will not repeat itself. Even if it doesn't, it may be a couple of years before I get back to breakeven.
I would like to know the status of the changes being made to manage large drawdowns. To me, this is a significant flaw to being able to generate profits over a long period. When indicators show that a trend is developing in a currency pair then I would hope that some 'new' logic is applied. No one has explained when or what the changes will be. Dustin...could you please elaborate on this?
Tham gia từ Oct 05, 2011
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Oct 03, 2012 at 13:59
djlawren, It sounds like there was a miss-communication. When this draw down occurred it was primarily due to the EUR/GBP pair. It affected this account as well. As you can see we are just now getting to a point to where we are offsetting that draw down. My staff was to inform people that we were going to discontinue trading the eur/gbp pair not that we were going to stop trading any pair that included the eur or the gbp. If you have discontinued trading those pairs it could in fact slow down the performance however you should still be regaining ground slowly. The reporting on this site is very powerful. You can analyze the performance of each of the pairs we have traded and identify draw-downs as well as total pips and dollar profit. Take a look at the individual results and base your currency choices that. You will see that the EUR/USD and the GBP/USD are the strongest performers. Although the CAD is performing it is substantially lower in overall profits generated and if you filter the report to only show cad info you can see that it has had some pretty good draw downs.
If I was trading with your balance I would cautiously trade the EUR or GBP against the US dollar. There are obvious risks that are coming into play on those pairs as well with the uncertainty in those regions but they have historically done the best. Another thing I would like to mention is your risk level. You really should be at a risk level one based on your account level. Even at 5k risk level one would be more appropriate that what you say you were trading.
If I was trading with your balance I would cautiously trade the EUR or GBP against the US dollar. There are obvious risks that are coming into play on those pairs as well with the uncertainty in those regions but they have historically done the best. Another thing I would like to mention is your risk level. You really should be at a risk level one based on your account level. Even at 5k risk level one would be more appropriate that what you say you were trading.
Tham gia từ Jan 24, 2012
60bài viết
Oct 31, 2012 at 12:40
My latest mt4 @ build 419-438; open trades @ EA 1.89 unauthenticated, activated.
If updated, how would this latest EA respond to open trades with version1.89's comment/magic number?
Do advice before I proceed with update of EA.exe.
If updated, how would this latest EA respond to open trades with version1.89's comment/magic number?
Do advice before I proceed with update of EA.exe.
Tham gia từ Nov 08, 2011
9bài viết
Oct 31, 2012 at 19:31
Well TOMS EA SUPPORT where are you guys when we need help?
You guys gave out an uppdate here so please be so kind to not wait a whole week before answering our questions here!
Im stuck right now on the please create your login record window after staring the uppdate,its just aint doing anything more it just freeses?
Any suggestions here?
You guys gave out an uppdate here so please be so kind to not wait a whole week before answering our questions here!
Im stuck right now on the please create your login record window after staring the uppdate,its just aint doing anything more it just freeses?
Any suggestions here?
Tham gia từ Oct 05, 2011
60bài viết
Oct 31, 2012 at 20:13
This is not the TomsEA support forum and we have not given any update on this forum regarding the update that went out this morning. As far as support goes we have been very diligent in handling any questions that come through and anyone that has contacted us via chat etc has been taken care of immediately. Our chats have been running all morning as well as are email support. If you would like support on the product my suggestion is to come to us and ask for it. That means come to our site not this 3rd party site that I only check occasionally. You can access our support both live chat and email/ticket support here. https://mytotalsupport.com/
Tham gia từ Feb 08, 2012
36bài viết
Oct 31, 2012 at 22:27
That's a good system. Thank god, I've seeing others and have looses monst of the months.
More or less is the line of the systems I'd like. But teh DD it's a little high.
But everyone is free to choose according to their understanding.
I want to share, it's that not only go the one that has llong historics, there som news that are stable too.
Does anybody agree with be?
More or less is the line of the systems I'd like. But teh DD it's a little high.
But everyone is free to choose according to their understanding.
I want to share, it's that not only go the one that has llong historics, there som news that are stable too.
Does anybody agree with be?
Tham gia từ Nov 08, 2011
9bài viết
Nov 01, 2012 at 10:44
GlobalProfit posted:
This is not the TomsEA support forum and we have not given any update on this forum regarding the update that went out this morning. As far as support goes we have been very diligent in handling any questions that come through and anyone that has contacted us via chat etc has been taken care of immediately. Our chats have been running all morning as well as are email support. If you would like support on the product my suggestion is to come to us and ask for it. That means come to our site not this 3rd party site that I only check occasionally. You can access our support both live chat and email/ticket support here. https://mytotalsupport.com/
Well where else should i go then when 1st of all i couldnt get in to your old sites for support help,2nd of all i didnt even know about the mytotalspport.com page.Why because you guys havent sent me any emails about that website in the first place!
Tham gia từ Nov 08, 2011
9bài viết
Nov 01, 2012 at 10:48
fxsecure posted:Not to be rude or anything,but i only understood 50% of what you just wrote here,so my advice to you,Get some english lessons.
That's a good system. Thank god, I've seeing others and have looses monst of the months.
More or less is the line of the systems I'd like. But teh DD it's a little high.
But everyone is free to choose according to their understanding.
I want to share, it's that not only go the one that has llong historics, there som news that are stable too.
Does anybody agree with be?
Tham gia từ Feb 22, 2011
4862bài viết
Nov 01, 2012 at 11:08
DANIELSFX1979 posted:fxsecure posted:Not to be rude or anything,but i only understood 50% of what you just wrote here,so my advice to you,Get some english lessons.
That's a good system. Thank god, I've seeing others and have looses monst of the months.
More or less is the line of the systems I'd like. But teh DD it's a little high.
But everyone is free to choose according to their understanding.
I want to share, it's that not only go the one that has llong historics, there som news that are stable too.
Does anybody agree with be?
I would say his English is no sooo bad, IMHO he wanted to say that he likes the equity curve but he does not like high drowdawns
Tham gia từ Oct 05, 2011
60bài viết
Nov 01, 2012 at 13:56
@ Daniel, that information has been provided never the less, if you do not have that info and for future reference you can always just reply to the email you received discussing the update. That said, the below sentence was in the email as well further indicating how to contact us. This is not meant to be argumentative, I am trying to ensure that you know how to get support when you need it and give you some options ie replying to our emails in the case that you don't have this information. The below is direct quote from the email we sent you notifying you of the update which spawned your comment on this forum.
'As always, If you have any questions please feel free to email our support team at [email protected] with any inquiries. We will be happy to assist you!'
'As always, If you have any questions please feel free to email our support team at [email protected] with any inquiries. We will be happy to assist you!'
Tham gia từ Jan 24, 2012
60bài viết
Nov 02, 2012 at 11:42
EA @ 1.89 working properly now.
Thanks, Dustin.
Thanks, Dustin.
Tham gia từ Nov 08, 2011
9bài viết
Nov 03, 2012 at 23:57
(đã sửa Nov 04, 2012 at 00:02)
togr posted:i know what he said but i was just trying to get a point a cross hint hint! :)DANIELSFX1979 posted:fxsecure posted:Not to be rude or anything,but i only understood 50% of what you just wrote here,so my advice to you,Get some english lessons.
That's a good system. Thank god, I've seeing others and have looses monst of the months.
More or less is the line of the systems I'd like. But teh DD it's a little high.
But everyone is free to choose according to their understanding.
I want to share, it's that not only go the one that has llong historics, there som news that are stable too.
Does anybody agree with be?
I would say his English is no sooo bad, IMHO he wanted to say that he likes the equity curve but he does not like high drowdawns
Tham gia từ Nov 08, 2011
9bài viết
Nov 04, 2012 at 00:01
GlobalProfit posted:
@ Daniel, that information has been provided never the less, if you do not have that info and for future reference you can always just reply to the email you received discussing the update. That said, the below sentence was in the email as well further indicating how to contact us. This is not meant to be argumentative, I am trying to ensure that you know how to get support when you need it and give you some options ie replying to our emails in the case that you don't have this information. The below is direct quote from the email we sent you notifying you of the update which spawned your comment on this forum.
'As always, If you have any questions please feel free to email our support team at [email protected] with any inquiries. We will be happy to assist you!'
When you say never the less the information has been provided to me??
No it hasnt,like i said before,and thats why i said it here since i didnt have anywhere else to express myself than here!
But now i know since you put the information here.
So hopefully this problem shouldnt be an issue in the future.
Tham gia từ May 02, 2011
48bài viết
Nov 04, 2012 at 17:14
I want to purchase tomsea except its martingale. last martingale i tried blew my account. I'll like to know if anyone has tried this system from www.hedge-cloud.com
Thanks.
Thanks.
Tham gia từ Sep 28, 2012
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Nov 08, 2012 at 07:18
Hedge cloud looks like a scam. After registering, no more free trial possible, no information, except if you buy directly 1000$
Just invest ... watch and enjoy !
Tham gia từ Nov 04, 2012
20bài viết
Nov 08, 2012 at 19:16
Hmm.. I got Free trial days back. The licenses for free trial premium and advanced are all limited copies according to the live chat.
You amateurs should think before yelling Scam..
You amateurs should think before yelling Scam..
Tham gia từ Jan 31, 2011
724bài viết
Nov 08, 2012 at 20:54
There are actually some pretty good traders lurking around here.
Make losses, but always come out a winner at the end.
Tham gia từ Feb 22, 2011
4862bài viết
Nov 09, 2012 at 07:46
Janeth posted:
Hmm.. I got Free trial days back. The licenses for free trial premium and advanced are all limited copies according to the live chat.
You amateurs should think before yelling Scam..
The Free Trial Offer is no longer available at this TIme as its out of stock. You may Upgrade your membership to Premium or Advanced by
purchasing a license. Afterwards you may access and Download The Platform and User Guide from your member Area by clicking
'My Files' Button.
Note: All purchases come with a moneyback guarantee
www.Hedge-Cloud.com
There is no reason NOT to provide trial. It may require some computing capacity but common for $1.5k membership you can buy/lease server. So it is SUSPICIOUS
Tham gia từ Nov 04, 2012
20bài viết
Nov 10, 2012 at 17:26
togr posted:Janeth posted:
Hmm.. I got Free trial days back. The licenses for free trial premium and advanced are all limited copies according to the live chat.
You amateurs should think before yelling Scam..
The Free Trial Offer is no longer available at this TIme as its out of stock. You may Upgrade your membership to Premium or Advanced by
purchasing a license. Afterwards you may access and Download The Platform and User Guide from your member Area by clicking
'My Files' Button.
Note: All purchases come with a moneyback guarantee
www.Hedge-Cloud.com
There is no reason NOT to provide trial. It may require some computing capacity but common for $1.5k membership you can buy/lease server. So it is SUSPICIOUS
The support team posted on donnaforex that the Licenses were limited for premium and Advance membership not just the free trial only. So its not a problem of server
The thread name on donna is HedgeCloud and from what I read it appears they would release more trial licenses from 12th till 16th of this month
You can follow the thread on donna, it really is an interesting one.
My 2 pence.
