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Feb 03, 2015 at 01:56
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Tham gia từ May 19, 2014   88bài viết
Jun 05, 2015 at 13:59
Hi Likebrick,

You are wrong.

When you purchase VTP from Doug Price, you can select to use VTP EA or use Trade Copier VTP EA which is controlled by Doug Price.

Before, many people who bought VTP EA complained to Doug Price that their trades are NOT SIMILAR TO THOSE TRADES of Doug Price. So, Doug Price created the Trade Copier VTP EA so that people will have same trades in same direction of all trades of Doug Price's own account, and so, they can compare easily, and will not have such complaints anymore.

So, if you like, you can use VTP EA and set up everything by yourself. It's up to you to decide.

Hope you and other new members can understand more about VTP EA Trade Copier.

I am really happy with VTP EA's results so far, and so, I am willing to help you or other people to make profits with VTP EA. You can also contact me if you want to ask any further questions.

Have a nice and winning day today !

James
Tham gia từ May 31, 2015   2bài viết
Jun 05, 2015 at 14:33
Now I'm confused..does this mean, buying VTR means copying the trades from doug or is VTR 'stand-alone'?
Tham gia từ May 19, 2014   88bài viết
Jun 06, 2015 at 04:46
Hi projekTM,

Why confused?

As I explained above, you can select to use Trade Copier to copy all trades from Doug's account to your account directly, and so, you will have same results (Win is win, and Loss is loss). Or you can select to use VTP EA and if so, you have to set up everything in the Settings of VTP EA by yourself. You also have to turn on / off VTP EA during Big news events by yourself.

By the way, I want to share my bitter experience with Hotforex yesterday with all of you here, so that you should try to select reliable forex brokers to protect your profits.

My bitter experiences yesterday were as follows:

Before the Non-farm payroll news came out, My equity was at 1,317 usd. I placed Pending Sells on EURUSD and XAUUSD, and Pending Buy on USDJPY. I placed these pending orders 5 minutes before the News.

When the Non-farm payroll news came out, and it was good as I expected, all my pending Sells and Buys were triggered at BIG DIFFERENCES in Pips. You can see all my trades triggered at big pip differences from my attached files.

1. My Pending sells on EURUSD were at: 1.11750 and 1.11700, but they were triggered at 1.11551, which were 14.9 pips and 19.9 pip differences.

2. My pending sell on XAUUSD were at: 1169, but it was triggered at 1166.63, and this is 237 pips difference = 2.37 usd price difference.

3. My pending Buy on USDJPY were at: 125.10 and 125.15, but they were triggered at 125.287, which were 13.7 pips and 18.7 pips differences.

Well, if we place orders manually during the news is released, all brokers can widen spreads, and this is normal, and we all know about tricky and dirty things of most brokers. Even when the brokers widen the spreads, on eurusd, and usdjpy, the widened spread can be like 5 pips or 6 pips maximum. And on XAUUSD, spread can be widened to 50 cents to 70 cents maximum.

But here, I say about Pending orders which we placed well in advance before the news comes out, so, the brokers must honor such prices on pending orders if the pending orders are triggered.

So, when I made profits, it was not much enough for me to close the orders, and I had to be in market. At peak, I saw my equity grew up to 1,786 usd, and I tried to close orders, but I saw it asked me to wait for SERVER ....bla.bla.bla. This s we can the broker FREEZED the price and did not let me close orders.

Imagine when I closed orders, because of price freezing, the prices / profits I could close were around 20 pips lower than when I closed the orders. Wow, you can see that the triggered prices were BIG PIP DIFFERENCE, and even when I closed the orders, The profits were reduced up to 20 pips less than they actually were.

So far, I had traded with FXDD, INTERBANKFXX, etc, and now, HOTFOREX, but I can say that this is the first time I got these problems which we can SO BAD PRICE MANIPULATION. But Hotforex is said to be STP / ECN Broker?

I doubt most MT4 Brokers are real HONEST as they claim them to be so.

Well, because I got very nervous, angry, and upset, a lot of un-explainable feelings and bad trading pschychology came out to my mind, and I decided to take REVENGE by placing Buy on USDCAD with 2 trades of 0.5 lot = 1 lot totally, and even I made good profits, I decided not to close them.

Instead, I let them be, and began to chat with live chat of hotforex, and complain them about above issue. So, I did not focus on trading anymore, but instead, I chatted with them, and took screenshot from the Journal to send file attachment to them via email.

When I finished my above job with Hotforex, I saw my buy on usdcad were hit STOP LOSS for big loss of 747 usd (2 trades x 0.5 lot per trade).
My account is now at 597 usd only. Of course, from my initial deposit of 345 usd 2 weeks ago, I still made 252 usd net profit up to now.

What I want to share my bitter experiences with all of you are:

1. Select and test to find out how good and reliable the broker is. This can only be done during big news time.

2. When any of you face the similar problems about price manipulation above, DO NOT PLACE ANY NEW ORDERS TO TAKE REVENGE because at that moment, your mind is out of control, and you can not see the market as well as nornmal.

3. Close all orders completely and do not trade anymore before you start to chat or complain to the brokers. Or you can not focus on trading and you will most likely lose.

I will wait for Hotforex people to respond to me next week and compensate for all the differences of pips they did to my account, and then, I will use this account with VTP EA trading alone. I swear that I will not trade manually with Hotforex anymore.

I am looking for some really good and honest brokers to do manual trading, and will open another account with them to trade manually. Anyone can suggest to me? How about IC MARKETS, FXCHOICE, ETC ? I want to have at least 1:500 leverage level to trade with higher lot size.

The reason why I do not want to close account with Hotforex completely because I opened account under my close friend's IB Link. I want to let him enjoy referral commission. So, I trust VTP EA and want to take revenge by making consistent profits every month, even much lower from Hotforex by using VTP EA.

From all commercial forex robots, I trust VTP EA the most. I noticed whenever it entered a trade so far, and from my trading experience, I see it can make us monthly profits consistently if we USE FIXED LOT SIZE, and DO NOT SET UP HIGH RISK / HIGH LOT SIZE to enjoy High win rate % from VTP EA.

By the way, do not trade with Octafx and Youtradefx.com because they are also bad brokers. One of my very close friend who is HEAVY SCALPER and made more than 900,000 usd from his initial deposit of 10k usd within 1 month of trading from Youtradefx in 2013, but they claimed to my friend that because my friend got IN / OUT of a trade within 1 minute so frequently and heavily and they could not liquidate such orders? If they could not liquidate my friend's orders with Liquidity banks, why they did not stop those orders but still let all my friend's orders GET IN AND OUT for 1 month?

My friend always went ALL IN (which means with 10k usd account, my friend placed 9.9 lots, and when account grew to 20k, my friend placed 19.9 lots, etc). I believe Youtradefx thought that with my friend's HIGHEST RISK OF TRADING LIKE THIS, my friend's account would be burnt at anytime. But finally, it did not burn out, but made huge profits, and when my friend withdrew money, they rejected, and only returned initial deposit of 10k usd to my friend.

Octafx is as bad as Youtradefx.

It's not easy to make money from forex when there are so many bad forex brokers. So, when making good profits, we should think of withdrawing them regularly, and open several accounts with several brokers to avoid notice from bad brokers.

Have a nice weekend !

James



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Tham gia từ Sep 04, 2013   33bài viết
Jun 06, 2015 at 13:23
jamesphuc posted:
Hi projekTM,

Why confused?

As I explained above, you can select to use Trade Copier to copy all trades from Doug's account to your account directly, and so, you will have same results (Win is win, and Loss is loss). Or you can select to use VTP EA and if so, you have to set up everything in the Settings of VTP EA by yourself. You also have to turn on / off VTP EA during Big news events by yourself.

By the way, I want to share my bitter experience with Hotforex yesterday with all of you here, so that you should try to select reliable forex brokers to protect your profits.

My bitter experiences yesterday were as follows:

Before the Non-farm payroll news came out, My equity was at 1,317 usd. I placed Pending Sells on EURUSD and XAUUSD, and Pending Buy on USDJPY. I placed these pending orders 5 minutes before the News.

When the Non-farm payroll news came out, and it was good as I expected, all my pending Sells and Buys were triggered at BIG DIFFERENCES in Pips. You can see all my trades triggered at big pip differences from my attached files.

1. My Pending sells on EURUSD were at: 1.11750 and 1.11700, but they were triggered at 1.11551, which were 14.9 pips and 19.9 pip differences.

2. My pending sell on XAUUSD were at: 1169, but it was triggered at 1166.63, and this is 237 pips difference = 2.37 usd price difference.

3. My pending Buy on USDJPY were at: 125.10 and 125.15, but they were triggered at 125.287, which were 13.7 pips and 18.7 pips differences.

Well, if we place orders manually during the news is released, all brokers can widen spreads, and this is normal, and we all know about tricky and dirty things of most brokers. Even when the brokers widen the spreads, on eurusd, and usdjpy, the widened spread can be like 5 pips or 6 pips maximum. And on XAUUSD, spread can be widened to 50 cents to 70 cents maximum.

But here, I say about Pending orders which we placed well in advance before the news comes out, so, the brokers must honor such prices on pending orders if the pending orders are triggered.

So, when I made profits, it was not much enough for me to close the orders, and I had to be in market. At peak, I saw my equity grew up to 1,786 usd, and I tried to close orders, but I saw it asked me to wait for SERVER ....bla.bla.bla. This s we can the broker FREEZED the price and did not let me close orders.

Imagine when I closed orders, because of price freezing, the prices / profits I could close were around 20 pips lower than when I closed the orders. Wow, you can see that the triggered prices were BIG PIP DIFFERENCE, and even when I closed the orders, The profits were reduced up to 20 pips less than they actually were.

So far, I had traded with FXDD, INTERBANKFXX, etc, and now, HOTFOREX, but I can say that this is the first time I got these problems which we can SO BAD PRICE MANIPULATION. But Hotforex is said to be STP / ECN Broker?

I doubt most MT4 Brokers are real HONEST as they claim them to be so.

Well, because I got very nervous, angry, and upset, a lot of un-explainable feelings and bad trading pschychology came out to my mind, and I decided to take REVENGE by placing Buy on USDCAD with 2 trades of 0.5 lot = 1 lot totally, and even I made good profits, I decided not to close them.

Instead, I let them be, and began to chat with live chat of hotforex, and complain them about above issue. So, I did not focus on trading anymore, but instead, I chatted with them, and took screenshot from the Journal to send file attachment to them via email.

When I finished my above job with Hotforex, I saw my buy on usdcad were hit STOP LOSS for big loss of 747 usd (2 trades x 0.5 lot per trade).
My account is now at 597 usd only. Of course, from my initial deposit of 345 usd 2 weeks ago, I still made 252 usd net profit up to now.

What I want to share my bitter experiences with all of you are:

1. Select and test to find out how good and reliable the broker is. This can only be done during big news time.

2. When any of you face the similar problems about price manipulation above, DO NOT PLACE ANY NEW ORDERS TO TAKE REVENGE because at that moment, your mind is out of control, and you can not see the market as well as nornmal.

3. Close all orders completely and do not trade anymore before you start to chat or complain to the brokers. Or you can not focus on trading and you will most likely lose.

I will wait for Hotforex people to respond to me next week and compensate for all the differences of pips they did to my account, and then, I will use this account with VTP EA trading alone. I swear that I will not trade manually with Hotforex anymore.

I am looking for some really good and honest brokers to do manual trading, and will open another account with them to trade manually. Anyone can suggest to me? How about IC MARKETS, FXCHOICE, ETC ? I want to have at least 1:500 leverage level to trade with higher lot size.

The reason why I do not want to close account with Hotforex completely because I opened account under my close friend's IB Link. I want to let him enjoy referral commission. So, I trust VTP EA and want to take revenge by making consistent profits every month, even much lower from Hotforex by using VTP EA.

From all commercial forex robots, I trust VTP EA the most. I noticed whenever it entered a trade so far, and from my trading experience, I see it can make us monthly profits consistently if we USE FIXED LOT SIZE, and DO NOT SET UP HIGH RISK / HIGH LOT SIZE to enjoy High win rate % from VTP EA.

By the way, do not trade with Octafx and Youtradefx.com because they are also bad brokers. One of my very close friend who is HEAVY SCALPER and made more than 900,000 usd from his initial deposit of 10k usd within 1 month of trading from Youtradefx in 2013, but they claimed to my friend that because my friend got IN / OUT of a trade within 1 minute so frequently and heavily and they could not liquidate such orders? If they could not liquidate my friend's orders with Liquidity banks, why they did not stop those orders but still let all my friend's orders GET IN AND OUT for 1 month?

My friend always went ALL IN (which means with 10k usd account, my friend placed 9.9 lots, and when account grew to 20k, my friend placed 19.9 lots, etc). I believe Youtradefx thought that with my friend's HIGHEST RISK OF TRADING LIKE THIS, my friend's account would be burnt at anytime. But finally, it did not burn out, but made huge profits, and when my friend withdrew money, they rejected, and only returned initial deposit of 10k usd to my friend.

Octafx is as bad as Youtradefx.

It's not easy to make money from forex when there are so many bad forex brokers. So, when making good profits, we should think of withdrawing them regularly, and open several accounts with several brokers to avoid notice from bad brokers.

Have a nice weekend !

James

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Tham gia từ Oct 29, 2014   12bài viết
Jun 06, 2015 at 15:38
After purchase you get access to VTP trades via a copier. If you want the actual EA then email Doug and you will get it - you have either option.
Personally I felt the same about the copier initially - perhaps even going as far to say I felt cheated. HOWEVER, after a couple of weeks and the cost has been recovered you see things a little differently. VTP is great. It works and using the copier you get exactly the same as you see here at myfxbook. Subsequently I also think the copier solution gives you more as you take advantage of the work Doug does ie perhaps suspending trades during times of high volatility.

The default VTP copier is about the nearest ive seen to a set and forget solution you can have faith in.
Tham gia từ Apr 18, 2015   2bài viết
Jun 07, 2015 at 15:59
hello dear friends

i want to know , why is not this system a signal provider ?

what is the problem ?

thanks,
Tham gia từ Sep 28, 2011   10bài viết
Jun 07, 2015 at 15:59
I'm little bit anxious with trading in late friday and keeping the trades during the weekend, but we need to trust Doug and his system
Tham gia từ Jan 03, 2014   220bài viết
Jun 08, 2015 at 03:42
Tomson
i have a question,i saw the two sell gbpusd orders in Doug Price myfxbook,the open time is last friday near the market close,but i didn't get these two orders last friday,i get it after this week market opened 1hours later.but the close time is the same.
Tham gia từ Nov 22, 2011   28bài viết
Jun 08, 2015 at 03:51
Mine was open last Friday as the master trade but is now still OPEN not CLOSE... Any problem?
Tham gia từ Jan 03, 2014   220bài viết
Jun 08, 2015 at 03:54
don_wanz posted:
Mine was open last Friday as the master trade but is now still OPEN not CLOSE... Any problem?

you use the vtp ea or just vtp trade copy?
i use trade copy,the same close time,but the open time is not same,maybe at that time the market near closed
Tham gia từ Nov 22, 2011   28bài viết
Jun 08, 2015 at 03:56
goode posted:
don_wanz posted:
Mine was open last Friday as the master trade but is now still OPEN not CLOSE... Any problem?

you use the vtp ea or just vtp trade copy?
i use trade copy,the same close time,but the open time is not same,maybe at that time the market near closed

Trade copy...Have to wait for support to reply
Tham gia từ Sep 28, 2011   10bài viết
Jun 08, 2015 at 10:24
goode posted:
Tomson
i have a question,i saw the two sell gbpusd orders in Doug Price myfxbook,the open time is last friday near the market close,but i didn't get these two orders last friday,i get it after this week market opened 1hours later.but the close time is the same.

Hi
I got these orders on Friday and they were closed during the night with profit
I use trade copier
Tham gia từ Jan 03, 2014   220bài viết
Jun 08, 2015 at 11:00
i use copy,but why today didn't get eurusd trade........
Tham gia từ Oct 29, 2014   12bài viết
Jun 08, 2015 at 12:47
If you're not getting trades you need to look in the ea logs. Theres always a fairly simple explanation......lack of margin, spread etc.
Tham gia từ Sep 28, 2011   10bài viết
Jun 08, 2015 at 12:48
goode posted:
i use copy,but why today didn't get eurusd trade........

I didn't get EURUSD today neither. I don't know why
Tham gia từ Mar 30, 2015   32bài viết
Jun 08, 2015 at 12:48
I have had other types of investments over the years but NONE come anyway close to what I get from this.. So I would like to give Doug a very big thanks for such a fantastic system!
Tham gia từ Jan 03, 2014   220bài viết
Jun 08, 2015 at 12:53
i check all logs (ea log and mt4 log),no words about eurusd orders........and no errors
Tham gia từ Feb 03, 2015   84bài viết
Jun 08, 2015 at 13:00
Set EnableMarketStatus = FALSE
Tham gia từ Jan 03, 2014   220bài viết
Jun 09, 2015 at 06:57
anyone miss last gbpusd order again?
Tham gia từ Jan 03, 2014   220bài viết
Jun 09, 2015 at 07:13
just now i rest my mt4,and many ea run together and got eurusd orders from vtp~
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