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Whoa amazing. Very mature response. Yet since you lack the ability of doing a google search. Allow me to do it for you. Gambling is the wagering of money or something of material value (referred to as "the stakes") on an event with an uncertain outcome with the primary intent of winning additional money and/or material goods. :) Something that EVERYONE does when they place an order. :)
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And you have no data... Whats wrong? Have you blown your account? Or are you going to blame exness for that also?
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I wish I could thumb up this comment tho. Fxbook needs an option to rate comments.
"BellaVista507 posted:
It was you who made that decision.
This time you REALLY are right: Exness never forced me to open an account with them, IT WAS MY DECISION, and IT IS MY FAULT! I just want other people to not do the same MISTAKE.
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It means at least that withdrawals can stop to be automatic. You said "No way ..." Remember ? It was 10 minutes ago.
For your information, there was only one first deposit with moneybookers at the beginning.
About posting everything, I provided you several times the links to the forum and FPA where everything has been posted ... And everybody can see everything there.
Sure, tell me, what is the point of photoshopping the snapshot (and videos can't be modified, you're still funny) ? Because I'm working for another broker and want to try to discredit Exness, right ? Make a lot more sens that you are actually working for them...
Ok, we should stop there.
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He is claiming it's not gambling with only 3 trades and already an 80% drawdown..Bahaha...I looked for the definition of "gambling" and your picture is right next to it buddy.
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You showing that picture means nothing. Maybe your request was denied, because you deposited with a credit card before trying to withdraw what ever profit/ balance remained. Which of course would mean the deposited amount would have to be returned to the credit card, in which the remaining amount can be sent to you via moneybookers. :) So since you feel the need to post snapshots. Post everything so we can see what is really going on. Not to mention you could of easily photoshopped that :) How how about you show a screen capture (video) if your deposits and withdraws to see what has happened.
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This time you REALLY are right: Exness never forced me to open an account with them, IT WAS MY DECISION, and IT IS MY FAULT! I just want other people to not do the same MISTAKE.
Enjoy your easter weekend too.
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Bellavista: You know what. You are right. I'm full of crap.
Each time, you answered to every single point I pointed out, and really demonstrated how right you are.
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Gambling isn't defined by how much "leverage" you use. Or the amount you wager. Please google the world to have a better understanding. Yet my trades has nothing to do with your crying and B!tching about exness. Please find it in your soul to accept the fact that exness never told you to buy or sell. It was you who made that decision. In which you are b!tching about the requotes and the spread because it cost you money. Anyway enjoy your easter weekend, and pray for guidance on how to stop deflecting.
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There is no way everyone else has automatic withdrawals, and all of a sudden you don't. There is no magic number in which they will stop withdrawing funds from your exness account back to you. That is by far a crock of B.S. I turned 250 usd into 17,600 dollars for a client, and he was able to withdraw EVERYTHING TO HIS MONEYBOOKERS and bank wire. I would say 250 to 17,600 is a big profit! Either way, I still think your full of crap!
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Just look at the history, there are only 2 trades and the first one is a 7 micro-lots (0.07 lots) trade which made a 400% profit with 30 pips, so it's a 5 Euros account.
Maybe he just wanted to show a high percentage win. You can gamble with 5 euros, no big deal.
Maybe it's a bonus he received for free to open an account somewhere.
It's irrelevent, exactly like your trading skills are irrelevant about what we were discussing: Exness tricks and bad behavior.
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HighLeverage 652.86% 38.98% 49.2 - 1:1000 Real
Look at this, he is leveraging his stuff through the roof with a lot trade (basically gambling) and trying to convince me how I'm a bad trader and how he wouldn't miss 10 pips caused by a requote or a sudden slippage or what ever dafuq market makers bs excuses are for cheating...What a freakin loser, lol.
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Or maybe he indeed work for Exness ? Their "support" are very, VERY good at playing stupid ... I never knew if they really were or were damn good at playing it.
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It's clear to me that you are NOT a trader but probably a retail partner of some sorts. If you were exposing real money to the risk of market manipulation you would not be saying stupid shit like not caring about constant requotes . Maybe you are trading under "special conditions" provided by Exness, could that be the case?! Your English reading comprehension is a total fail. Either that or you're just playing stupid and trying to put words in my mouth.
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Bellavista, you convinced me that you were not working for Exness, but just a "complete idiot who KNOWS" everything, like already said. So still not a word on all proofs posted here and on FPA, which was the point of the discussion on the first place. And you seem to not have looked at all since you would have seen how Exness does NOT do automatic withdrawals anymore when you have won "too much" for them: It's on the FIRST page of the forum, right there:
http://www.myfxbook.com/community/general/how-i-got-ripped-off/429695,1
And if you were able to do withdrawals, fine. Nice for you. I have been able to do some withdrawals too until one point (as you can see on the forum). Maybe you didn't won enough to be scammed, as there are regularly uploads back to your credit card, meaning that you deposited regularly too.
Or maybe you were lucky. It's all the same that all you said before: Does the fact that you managed to some withdrawals say that Exness always performs withdrawals of winning traders ? You have proofs of some trading without major problem and some withdrawals without problem. I have proofs of having been stuck with 9 lots of position that I was TOTALLY UNABLE to close, and Exness behavior after (all chats, everything. Just have a look on FPA by yourself), and a withdrawal that wasn't automatic anymore and wasn't performed.
Does your proofs prove that I wasn't scammed ? Or does my proofs prove that Exness is not always honest ?
My point is to warn people about them. If you're not affiliated with them, I don't really see the point of what you're trying to do, honesty.
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Mevo I have used exness and many other brokers. iF EXNESS was indeed a scam. Why would it take less then 2 mins for a withdrawal to be completed. (moneybookers) and a wire transfer less then 3 business days to post to your bank account? Here is proof of money I have received from exness. Which of course something you have never been able to do, because they are such scammers. Your looking for someone to rub your back and tell you its going to be better. Yet no one is going to do that here. Your coming up a million and one reasons to not trade with exness. When the only reason why you shouldnt trade with exness, is because YOU DONT KNOW HOW TO TRADE!
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You mean more OBVIOUS that you are defending too much Exness if you weren't related to them ?
By the way, but it IS irrelevant: I'm NOT a scalper ...
I stil agree with you: Exness isn't for scalpers, as it isn't for anyone, it's just a scam.
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I'm not failing to understand your point AT ALL. You're just an idiot "who knows" that spread can become wider. On real ECNs (like DUKASCOPY or LMAX for example), all trader's pending limit orders are put in the orderbook, and spread do not automatically widen. It is only with professionnal liquidity providers used by market makers. You could say that spread widen during news with "MOST" brokers and I would 100% agree with you. But when you say "EVERY SINGLE BROKER, even ECNs", I understand that I have to deal with someone who think he knows everything better than everybody, and worse, he has the pretention to teach to everybody...
"The fact is people who complain about that are losers": If you feel better thinking that, fine. If you had just read what happened to me with Exness on the forum, you would have noticed that on page 5, there is my equity curve ... Until I couldn't close my positions and got stuck, and later was unable to withdraw. I guess everybody would like to have a "looser" equity curve like that.
"Do you think If I was up 150 pips, and got hit with a requote I would complain?" I guess (but as you seem to really be an idiot, I can't be sure) that if you just could NOT close the position until this position became negative, yes, you would complain a little. Or worse: Not able to close the position AT ALL anymore, and not be able to withdraw any of your money, yes you would probably complain. Even if you were hit with requotes, requotes and requotes when price is going down and ended with only 130 pips of profit and got stolen 20 pips, you still would complain. All this happen with Exness, not with HONEST (which Exness is NOT) brokers.
"It doesn't matter if I am trader or not": Oh yes ? When giving an opinion on a broker, I guess that people would at least expect you to know what you're talking about (=being a trader) and that you USE THE BROKER YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. No ?
So you're point is that: SPREAD CAN WIDEN according to market conditions and during news events. FINE. As already said, everybody agrees with you on that.
The problem that you are not able to understand (or do not WANT to) is that I am talking about spread MANIPULATION here (done by Exness among other scam technics), not usual spread variation in forex. When you say "Them widening the spread isn't anything "personal"", this is EXACTLY the problem I am talking about: As a dishonest broker, Exness is widening the spread BECAUSE of your orders, so it is TOTALLY PERSONAL ! It is not how it is SUPPOSED to work, I agree with that.
Ok, so you didn't talk at all of the proof I posted to you, you maybe never used Exness, you probably didn't read the forum about what happened to me with Exness, and you just want to let know to people that in forex, spread can widen. Well, in the name of everybody, thank you for that information !
" Your posting on as many forums as you can about exness": I am, and trust me, I will continue, not only that, but to do everything i can to bring them down too, because they are SCAMMERS, and I want people to use one of the many honest brokers around. Not to be STOLEN by them like it happened to me. They could just have arranged the "problem" which occured, but they didn't. I'm pretty confident it was done on purpose to not pay out my profits.
Please don't answer to just say again: "Spread can widen", and if you want to talk about something, first read a little the story... Thanks.
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So if you've moved on. Why are you still talking about exness. Not to mention I am not adamant about the spreads being higher. Your breaking up questions which there are answers to. Its clear to see that your a new trader if you believe that the spread of any current pair should be as tight during asia as it is in London. Not to mention you were clearly speaking about the spreads being large "randomly" through out the day. Well as I mentioned that is because of news releases which you have failed to acknowledge. You know claim you have never loss money before with exness. When clearly you have due to your anger about its spreads, requotes, etc. The fact is people who complain about that are losers. Losers looking for a reason to justify their loss. Do you think If I was up 150 pips, and got hit with a requote I would complain? Or would I complain if I was trying to exit a position and got hit with a requote. Its obvious. You and Mevo are one of the same. Failed scalpers looking to deter people from exness. Exness isn't for scalpers. We have already established that. Now move on!
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Just to make it clear, I wasn't talking about trying to close orders in loss and getting requotes or disconnects, or orders failing to close by hitting the SL. I am talking about closing in PROFIT and trades reaching the TP and failing to close because of what ever bs reasons. @Mevo is also talking about SUDDEN increases in spread, not the consistently higher spreads that @BellaVista507 is so adamant about. Notice how that is the only claim I've made that he/she is trying to contest!? Btw, my money is with another broker and I have smaller amounts spread over 2 others. All of them have some sporadic issues but NONE have ALL the issues happen like EXNESS does. DISCLAIMER :( I witnessed only one service, not the "metal account" or the new Exness ECN account) as far as I'm concerned they might be the best damn thing since sliced bread for other traders. Calling me a bad trader has no relevance on the facts I'm claiming, but I obviously need to defend myself on that front too by saying that since I've began trading in Forex markets I've margin called 0.0 accounts and I'm in the process of beating your market maker in your own game, only 20% to go before I can pull the funds out for good. One thing I have to add is that when Exness forced me to stop scalping, it wasn't a bad thing necessarily because I went looking then for other methods like price action trading and long term trend trading and it has been a blessing in disguise as I'm actually profitable now with so much less stress in my daily trading. I also talked a little with a veteran ex broker who explained to me games that market makers play and how scalpers are at the top of their "sucker list". So, I don't need or want an apology from Bella, who is apparently in some PR function with Exness. I don't personally hold a grudge against Exness because they caused me no monetary loss, (well almost did). Calling a customer names and being so illiterate in the process is just one of those funny/ironic things about internet. All said and done, I do wish your company to rise above these problems .
