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Member Since Feb 22, 2011
4862 posts
May 11, 2018 at 08:48
arpan366 posted:togr posted:arpan366 posted:BluePanther posted:arpan366 posted:
Just go through the trade history and times. If a new trade is not opened in the same symbol when another is at a loss, it is not a martingale. Otherwise it is. I dont understand how lotsize helps.
On a martingale account the Lot size will prove beyond doubt that martingale is used.
Hence why Lot size helps. Now you understand.
How exactly will it prove anything? Please be specific with a real example where you can't say whether a system is a martingale or not without the lotsize.
Even though you hide lot size it is obvious you are using martingale. Simple math is enough.
tag
04.17.2018 16:17 04.17.2018 17:01 EURUSD Sell - 5.00 1.23520 1.23501 1.9 43m 0.04%
tag
04.13.2018 16:23 04.13.2018 21:37 EURUSD Sell -31.60 - 1.23217 1.23334 -11.7 5h 13m -0.08%
From those numbers I am able to tell you are using martingale with multiplier of 3!
Prove me I am wrong by showing history...lots
First trade was opened on 13Apr18 at 16:23 and closed on 13Apr18 at 21:37. It lasted for about 5 hours and was closed at a loss. Second trade was opened on 17Apr18 at 16:17 (when the previous trade was obviously closed) and was closed on the same day at 17:01. It lasted for about an hour. The two trades were opened and closed 4 days apart from each other.
How is this a martingale? Why do you need lotsize to understand whether it is or not? Simple entry/exit times and prices should be enough. And seriously this is 'math'? You even managed to 'calculate' some 'multiplier':)
You had loosing trade. You open 3x times larger trade to recover this loss. This is my dear friend called martingale. Do not mess here with trade time, etc... that does not matter.
May 11, 2018 at 08:51
The gain in May has already hit my April's result. 3.34% in May vs 3.15% in April. Good dynamic.
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/Pikasso/scr/1997123
The system is demonstrated publicly and can be followed.
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/Pikasso/scr/1997123
The system is demonstrated publicly and can be followed.
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Member Since Jun 11, 2016
27 posts
May 11, 2018 at 09:02
May 11, 2018 at 10:00
togr posted:arpan366 posted:togr posted:arpan366 posted:BluePanther posted:arpan366 posted:
Just go through the trade history and times. If a new trade is not opened in the same symbol when another is at a loss, it is not a martingale. Otherwise it is. I dont understand how lotsize helps.
On a martingale account the Lot size will prove beyond doubt that martingale is used.
Hence why Lot size helps. Now you understand.
How exactly will it prove anything? Please be specific with a real example where you can't say whether a system is a martingale or not without the lotsize.
Even though you hide lot size it is obvious you are using martingale. Simple math is enough.
tag
04.17.2018 16:17 04.17.2018 17:01 EURUSD Sell - 5.00 1.23520 1.23501 1.9 43m 0.04%
tag
04.13.2018 16:23 04.13.2018 21:37 EURUSD Sell -31.60 - 1.23217 1.23334 -11.7 5h 13m -0.08%
From those numbers I am able to tell you are using martingale with multiplier of 3!
Prove me I am wrong by showing history...lots
First trade was opened on 13Apr18 at 16:23 and closed on 13Apr18 at 21:37. It lasted for about 5 hours and was closed at a loss. Second trade was opened on 17Apr18 at 16:17 (when the previous trade was obviously closed) and was closed on the same day at 17:01. It lasted for about an hour. The two trades were opened and closed 4 days apart from each other.
How is this a martingale? Why do you need lotsize to understand whether it is or not? Simple entry/exit times and prices should be enough. And seriously this is 'math'? You even managed to 'calculate' some 'multiplier':)
You had loosing trade. You open 3x times larger trade to recover this loss. This is my dear friend called martingale. Do not mess here with trade time, etc... that does not matter.
This is a waste of time. Read this:
https://www.investopedia.com/articles/forex/06/martingale.asp
I change trade size based on the quality of the signal and not to gain back lost money. Out of a 10 factors, if 3 or 4 line up, i bet very small. If 8 or 9 line up, i bet could potentially 10 times the amount. However, i only take a new trade once earlier trades are closed out. I think this is standard for most strategies. If this is so difficult to understand, just stop commenting....
Member Since Nov 10, 2011
55 posts
May 11, 2018 at 11:36
PiotrPietrzak posted:
algo-2-part-2: +248.0% DD 23.88% Started: Feb 15, 2017
algo-1-part-2: +225.4% DD 10.32% Started: Feb 15, 2017
algo-4: +143.4% DD 24.93% Started: Jul 11, 2017
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/PiotrPietrzak/algo-2-part-2/2305463
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/PiotrPietrzak/algo-1-part-2/2305469
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/PiotrPietrzak/algo-4/2347280
Great works. Do you use deep Learning algos? Daily Time frame?
Thanks
Member Since Feb 22, 2011
4862 posts
May 13, 2018 at 06:45
arpan366 posted:togr posted:arpan366 posted:togr posted:arpan366 posted:BluePanther posted:arpan366 posted:
Just go through the trade history and times. If a new trade is not opened in the same symbol when another is at a loss, it is not a martingale. Otherwise it is. I dont understand how lotsize helps.
On a martingale account the Lot size will prove beyond doubt that martingale is used.
Hence why Lot size helps. Now you understand.
How exactly will it prove anything? Please be specific with a real example where you can't say whether a system is a martingale or not without the lotsize.
Even though you hide lot size it is obvious you are using martingale. Simple math is enough.
tag
04.17.2018 16:17 04.17.2018 17:01 EURUSD Sell - 5.00 1.23520 1.23501 1.9 43m 0.04%
tag
04.13.2018 16:23 04.13.2018 21:37 EURUSD Sell -31.60 - 1.23217 1.23334 -11.7 5h 13m -0.08%
From those numbers I am able to tell you are using martingale with multiplier of 3!
Prove me I am wrong by showing history...lots
First trade was opened on 13Apr18 at 16:23 and closed on 13Apr18 at 21:37. It lasted for about 5 hours and was closed at a loss. Second trade was opened on 17Apr18 at 16:17 (when the previous trade was obviously closed) and was closed on the same day at 17:01. It lasted for about an hour. The two trades were opened and closed 4 days apart from each other.
How is this a martingale? Why do you need lotsize to understand whether it is or not? Simple entry/exit times and prices should be enough. And seriously this is 'math'? You even managed to 'calculate' some 'multiplier':)
You had loosing trade. You open 3x times larger trade to recover this loss. This is my dear friend called martingale. Do not mess here with trade time, etc... that does not matter.
This is a waste of time. Read this:
https://www.investopedia.com/articles/forex/06/martingale.asp
I change trade size based on the quality of the signal and not to gain back lost money. Out of a 10 factors, if 3 or 4 line up, i bet very small. If 8 or 9 line up, i bet could potentially 10 times the amount. However, i only take a new trade once earlier trades are closed out. I think this is standard for most strategies. If this is so difficult to understand, just stop commenting....
Yes and your strong signal for big trade always come after loosing trade. Interesting:)
Member Since Jan 25, 2010
1360 posts
May 13, 2018 at 06:58
arpan366 posted:
This is a waste of time. Read this:
https://www.investopedia.com/articles/forex/06/martingale.asp
I change trade size based on the quality of the signal and not to gain back lost money. Out of a 10 factors, if 3 or 4 line up, i bet very small. If 8 or 9 line up, i bet could potentially 10 times the amount. However, i only take a new trade once earlier trades are closed out. I think this is standard for most strategies. If this is so difficult to understand, just stop commenting....
So in other words, you are referring to something like this??
https://www.profitf.com/articles/forex-education/safe-martingale-manual-trading-part-2/
Member Since Jan 25, 2010
1360 posts
May 13, 2018 at 07:05
For argument's sake, please consider:
Martingale = EXPONENTIAL (CONSIDERABLE) INCREASE IN LOT SIZE (whether recovery trade, 8/10 signals, 50/50 chance, etc.)
Non-martingale = NO SUBSTANTIAL INCREASE IN LOT SIZE (commensurate increase in proportion to account permitted aka. money management [MM])
Martingale = EXPONENTIAL (CONSIDERABLE) INCREASE IN LOT SIZE (whether recovery trade, 8/10 signals, 50/50 chance, etc.)
Non-martingale = NO SUBSTANTIAL INCREASE IN LOT SIZE (commensurate increase in proportion to account permitted aka. money management [MM])
May 13, 2018 at 08:35
togr posted:sjkhaushu posted:Leverage has nothing to do with that.
I dont know why all the talk about lot sizes. Just look at number of pips for each trade and compare it to actual gain/loss %. If a trade won 10 pips and made 1%, the leverage used is about 1:10. If its 10 pips and 2%, the leverage is 1:20. Simple...
The example above is about trade size not leverage
You seriously can not calculate the trade size based on number of pips and % of loss or gain??
Leverage has everything to do with trade size. Since you are commenting on everything at least you should know what you are talking about. I can tell you what trade size he used for every single trade without him having to open up that detail.
May 13, 2018 at 13:35
BluePanther posted:
For argument's sake, please consider:
Martingale = EXPONENTIAL (CONSIDERABLE) INCREASE IN LOT SIZE (whether recovery trade, 8/10 signals, 50/50 chance, etc.)
Non-martingale = NO SUBSTANTIAL INCREASE IN LOT SIZE (commensurate increase in proportion to account permitted aka. money management [MM])
From my perspective, any increase in lotsize (substantial or non substantial) when a trade is running at a loss is a martingale and eventually leads to a blow up of the account. The only way to trade (again this is my personal opinion based on what i have tested so far) is to have a predefined stop loss and close the trade out when it gets there. Anything else is a recipe for eventual disaster. However, i have seen some traders trade anti-martingales successfully (increases size and tightens stops as the trade goes in their favour) and it seems like a possible viable strategy although i have never tested anything on my own. Thanks.
Member Since Mar 21, 2018
3 posts
May 14, 2018 at 06:27
If you prefer low risk - high sharpe ratio try:
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/Providerrr/mt4-44905/2467095
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/Providerrr/mt4-44905/2467095
Member Since Apr 19, 2018
16 posts
May 14, 2018 at 06:50
Providerrr posted:
If you prefer low risk - high sharpe ratio try:
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/Providerrr/mt4-44905/2467095
You took 7 trades in 8 months.
Member Since Jan 25, 2010
1360 posts
May 14, 2018 at 08:08
(edited May 14, 2018 at 08:12)
frequencytrading posted:
You took 7 trades in 8 months.
Slow and steady - but as MQL5.com states: 'The number of deals on the account is too small to evaluate trading quality'.
However, he does meet all five criteria:
1) The account must be REAL.
2) The account must be VERIFIED (all new public accounts must now be verified since five months ago)
3) DD < 40%
4) Account > 3 months
5) No martingales!
That's it. Only these five things. If your account passes that, feel free to let others know. There will be those that are disgruntled they cannot participate and will try to justify their way of trading, please ignore them - if it works for you, then great - maybe start a new thread and invite others trading that style to participate. - As I said, this place is not for arguing, it is for displaying accounts that potential investors might want to follow based on the criteria above. This thread is not intended to badmouth other trader's ways.
Member Since Apr 06, 2018
254 posts
May 14, 2018 at 13:32
arpan366 posted:BluePanther posted:
For argument's sake, please consider:
Martingale = EXPONENTIAL (CONSIDERABLE) INCREASE IN LOT SIZE (whether recovery trade, 8/10 signals, 50/50 chance, etc.)
Non-martingale = NO SUBSTANTIAL INCREASE IN LOT SIZE (commensurate increase in proportion to account permitted aka. money management [MM])
From my perspective, any increase in lotsize (substantial or non substantial) when a trade is running at a loss is a martingale and eventually leads to a blow up of the account. The only way to trade (again this is my personal opinion based on what i have tested so far) is to have a predefined stop loss and close the trade out when it gets there. Anything else is a recipe for eventual disaster. However, i have seen some traders trade anti-martingales successfully (increases size and tightens stops as the trade goes in their favour) and it seems like a possible viable strategy although i have never tested anything on my own. Thanks.
I tested Anti-Martingale (increase lotsize after winning trade) on the following system trend following, mean reversion and night scaling system. I found Anti-Martingale system did not improve performance over fixed %age risk system and performance is very similar but It complicates money management. It is my personal experience that fixed %age risk system is much better than any other complicated money management systems such as Anti-Martingale.
The market will trade through it’s path of least resistance .
May 14, 2018 at 13:40
togr posted:arpan366 posted:togr posted:arpan366 posted:togr posted:arpan366 posted:BluePanther posted:arpan366 posted:
Just go through the trade history and times. If a new trade is not opened in the same symbol when another is at a loss, it is not a martingale. Otherwise it is. I dont understand how lotsize helps.
On a martingale account the Lot size will prove beyond doubt that martingale is used.
Hence why Lot size helps. Now you understand.
How exactly will it prove anything? Please be specific with a real example where you can't say whether a system is a martingale or not without the lotsize.
Even though you hide lot size it is obvious you are using martingale. Simple math is enough.
tag
04.17.2018 16:17 04.17.2018 17:01 EURUSD Sell - 5.00 1.23520 1.23501 1.9 43m 0.04%
tag
04.13.2018 16:23 04.13.2018 21:37 EURUSD Sell -31.60 - 1.23217 1.23334 -11.7 5h 13m -0.08%
From those numbers I am able to tell you are using martingale with multiplier of 3!
Prove me I am wrong by showing history...lots
First trade was opened on 13Apr18 at 16:23 and closed on 13Apr18 at 21:37. It lasted for about 5 hours and was closed at a loss. Second trade was opened on 17Apr18 at 16:17 (when the previous trade was obviously closed) and was closed on the same day at 17:01. It lasted for about an hour. The two trades were opened and closed 4 days apart from each other.
How is this a martingale? Why do you need lotsize to understand whether it is or not? Simple entry/exit times and prices should be enough. And seriously this is 'math'? You even managed to 'calculate' some 'multiplier':)
You had loosing trade. You open 3x times larger trade to recover this loss. This is my dear friend called martingale. Do not mess here with trade time, etc... that does not matter.
This is a waste of time. Read this:
https://www.investopedia.com/articles/forex/06/martingale.asp
I change trade size based on the quality of the signal and not to gain back lost money. Out of a 10 factors, if 3 or 4 line up, i bet very small. If 8 or 9 line up, i bet could potentially 10 times the amount. However, i only take a new trade once earlier trades are closed out. I think this is standard for most strategies. If this is so difficult to understand, just stop commenting....
Yes and your strong signal for big trade always come after loosing trade. Interesting:)
the vast majority of large trades come after small winning trades..can you seriously not see it (would suggest professional help) or are you trying to troll here :). This is definitely my last post here. Thanks for the entertainment.
05.01.2018 17:19 05.01.2018 17:25 EURUSD Sell 5.00 - 1.20024 1.19948 7.6 6m 0.22%
05.01.2018 17:19 05.01.2018 17:23 EURUSD Sell 1.60 - 1.20024 1.19949 7.5 3m 0.22%
04.30.2018 17:15 04.30.2018 17:42 EURUSD Sell 2.00 - 1.20825 1.20806 1.9 26m 0.01%
04.27.2018 12:24 04.27.2018 14:59 EURUSD Sell -25.00 14.40 1.20804 1.20661 14.3 2h 34m 0.09%
04.25.2018 12:42 04.25.2018 14:23 EURUSD Sell -20.60 23.20 1.22111 1.21875 23.6 1h 40m 0.15%
04.25.2018 10:45 04.25.2018 11:04 EURUSD Sell 0.70 - 1.21954 1.21947 0.7 19m 0.00%
04.25.2018 10:45 04.25.2018 11:01 EURUSD Sell 0.50 - 1.21954 1.21909 4.5 16m 0.02%
04.18.2018 11:41 04.18.2018 12:02 EURUSD Sell - - 1.23638 1.23478 16.0 20m 0.50%
04.18.2018 11:19 04.18.2018 11:34 EURUSD Sell 2.40 - 1.23670 1.23648 2.2 14m 0.05%
04.18.2018 11:18 04.18.2018 11:34 EURUSD Sell 1.00 - 1.23656 1.23646 1.0 15m 0.01%
04.17.2018 16:17 04.17.2018 17:01 EURUSD Sell - 5.00 1.23520 1.23501 1.9 43m 0.04%
04.13.2018 16:23 04.13.2018 21:37 EURUSD Sell -31.60 - 1.23217 1.23334 -11.7 5h 13m -0.08%
04.09.2018 10:33 04.09.2018 13:01 EURUSD Sell 0.80 - 1.22702 1.22660 4.2 2h 27m 0.35%
04.09.2018 10:15 04.09.2018 10:17 EURUSD Sell - - 1.22655 1.22633 2.2 2m 0.05%
04.03.2018 14:47 04.03.2018 15:44 EURUSD Sell 1.00 - 1.23014 1.22955 5.9 56m 0.26%
03.28.2018 12:51 03.28.2018 13:25 EURUSD Buy 1.00 - 1.23898 1.23908 1.0 33m 0.01%
03.28.2018 10:35 03.28.2018 12:40 EURUSD Sell - 1.70 1.23841 1.23853 -1.2 2h 4m -0.02%
Member Since Mar 21, 2018
3 posts
May 14, 2018 at 13:42
frequencytrading posted:Providerrr posted:
If you prefer low risk - high sharpe ratio try:
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/Providerrr/mt4-44905/2467095
You took 7 trades in 8 months.
It is my trading style. As you can see it works.
Member Since Feb 22, 2011
4862 posts
May 14, 2018 at 13:43
togr posted:and voilaSignalGuru posted:
this is my account completed 4 weeks successfully
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/SignalGuru/pandasignal/1864229
the same was in signalstart.com as
https://www.signalstart.com/reports/panda-signal-aggressive/13823
and why do you post it here?
PandaSignal
Real (USD), IC Markets, Technical, Manual, 1:500 , MetaTrader 4
Gain:-67.16%
May 14, 2018 at 14:56
😁😀
Another one who overleveraged themselves and fell from their short lived glory! 😈 😀😁
togr posted:togr posted:and voilaSignalGuru posted:
this is my account completed 4 weeks successfully
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/SignalGuru/pandasignal/1864229
the same was in signalstart.com as
https://www.signalstart.com/reports/panda-signal-aggressive/13823
and why do you post it here?
PandaSignal
Real (USD), IC Markets, Technical, Manual, 1:500 , MetaTrader 4
Gain:-67.16%
Another one who overleveraged themselves and fell from their short lived glory! 😈 😀😁
ourmyfxbook@
Member Since Jan 25, 2010
1360 posts
May 14, 2018 at 15:52
(edited May 14, 2018 at 15:54)
arpan366 posted:
the vast majority of large trades come after small winning trades..can you seriously not see it (would suggest professional help) or are you trying to troll here :). This is definitely my last post here. Thanks for the entertainment.
Not sure why you had to justify your account IF it passed the criteria: the account would speak for itself.
On the contrary, if however your account DID NOT pass the criteria I can see why you continued justification posts.
Let's move on (finally).
Member Since Apr 06, 2018
254 posts
May 15, 2018 at 06:18
L3CAP posted:
😁😀togr posted:togr posted:and voilaSignalGuru posted:
this is my account completed 4 weeks successfully
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/SignalGuru/pandasignal/1864229
the same was in signalstart.com as
https://www.signalstart.com/reports/panda-signal-aggressive/13823
and why do you post it here?
PandaSignal
Real (USD), IC Markets, Technical, Manual, 1:500 , MetaTrader 4
Gain:-67.16%
Another one who overleveraged themselves and fell from their short lived glory! 😈 😀😁
Look like your system may meet the same fate. current equity is only 32%.
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/L3CAP/nl-ea/2253895
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