KeltnerPRO - Jared (By keltnerpro)
| Gain : | +5645.75% |
| Drawdown | 58.74% |
| Pips: | 4744.8 |
| Trades | 1003 |
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| Lost: |
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| Type: | Real |
| Leverage: | 1:100 |
| Trading: | Unknown |
KeltnerPRO - Jared Discussion
Member Since Oct 28, 2009
1435 posts
Sep 05, 2014 at 13:57
(edited Sep 05, 2014 at 13:57)
Maybe, however the page states that he used all his life savings to fund the account. He would then have to have approached ( or been approached by ) William Morrison to sell the EA. They would have had to go through a period of building the website offering.
This account started on March 5th, the website was taken out on May 8th. That's a two month period.
Who knows, maybe William Morrison paid him up front for it. I don't know. The point I'm making is that the story of the guy being broke doesn't stack up when you consider he's not withdrawn a dime from this account at any stage. He has a monthly bills of $3400 for his family.
He does however say that he had another account and he took 'some' of that money for this account. So maybe he's living off the other account.
At the end of the day, we all know that the website is marketing designed to appeal to those parts of us that will increase the number of sales. It just annoys me to see it. It's not honest marketing and when you're marketing an EA that appears this good it sours the smell somewhat.
Don't you think?
Best regards Steve
This account started on March 5th, the website was taken out on May 8th. That's a two month period.
Who knows, maybe William Morrison paid him up front for it. I don't know. The point I'm making is that the story of the guy being broke doesn't stack up when you consider he's not withdrawn a dime from this account at any stage. He has a monthly bills of $3400 for his family.
He does however say that he had another account and he took 'some' of that money for this account. So maybe he's living off the other account.
At the end of the day, we all know that the website is marketing designed to appeal to those parts of us that will increase the number of sales. It just annoys me to see it. It's not honest marketing and when you're marketing an EA that appears this good it sours the smell somewhat.
Don't you think?
Best regards Steve
11:15, restate my assumptions: 1. Mathematics is the language of nature. 2. Everything around us can be represented and understood through numbers. 3. If you graph these numbers, patterns emerge. Therefore: There are patterns everywhere in nature.
Sep 05, 2014 at 14:09
No Steve, I don't think so. I don't waste my time with investigations on marketers promo fairy tales anymore, but trade what makes sense. MDP made me very good money and this one as well. That's what counts for me. Other Morrison products went immediately to the bin.. since he is allways honest regards the money back guarantee I see no issue to try his products
Member Since Oct 28, 2009
1435 posts
Sep 05, 2014 at 14:43
Fair enough, if you're happy with it.
Best regards Steve
Best regards Steve
11:15, restate my assumptions: 1. Mathematics is the language of nature. 2. Everything around us can be represented and understood through numbers. 3. If you graph these numbers, patterns emerge. Therefore: There are patterns everywhere in nature.
Sep 05, 2014 at 21:02
hey guys you should be very careful using this ea on real account ,i just bought the EA and im tasting it on demo with 3 different brokers and whole bunch of different setting , i wanna know more about a strategy before put it on my master account
trading should'nt be stressful,it should be full of joy
Sep 05, 2014 at 21:15
I was skeptical regarding the marketing approach but couldn't help to give it a go looking at the results. all I can say yesterday it paid for itself with extra profit to play with. I had it set on starting lot 0.50 with MM off
The strategy is sound even if u have a few false breakouts hitting the dynamic stop u catch 1 good trade it makes it all up.
I dont normally give good reviews but the strategy is quite similar to how I trade manually. This EA is not a scalper if that is what you are looking for you are in the wrong place
The strategy is sound even if u have a few false breakouts hitting the dynamic stop u catch 1 good trade it makes it all up.
I dont normally give good reviews but the strategy is quite similar to how I trade manually. This EA is not a scalper if that is what you are looking for you are in the wrong place
Time is Money
Sep 05, 2014 at 22:46
(edited Sep 05, 2014 at 22:53)
lilizen posted:Try calculating pip/hr, the higher the better - Expectancy / hrs , then i suggest using fxblue to bridge it to your live acct.
hey guys you should be very careful using this ea on real account ,i just bought the EA and im tasting it on demo with 3 different brokers and whole bunch of different setting , i wanna know more about a strategy before put it on my master account
It's very rare to find broker that have the same 'ticks/volume' between live/demo; and it's obvious of the reason why 😇 Could you please share the 'name' and 'value' of the settings 😱
Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.
Sep 08, 2014 at 07:40
If you make in a range of 15k a month you don't spend so much time to convince people to buy your product, you don't tell your life story in so much detail, that's only good marketing before this EA will start falling, like others.
PS: It seems people need stories to buy, the russian genius teenagers was another one and now pleople are crying after buying the cash printer with 1k..Val
-> as always, when they push sales so hard (as you never know when the EA will start declining..), they pay guys to post favorable arguments all over the internet, including here, typical..
PS: It seems people need stories to buy, the russian genius teenagers was another one and now pleople are crying after buying the cash printer with 1k..Val
-> as always, when they push sales so hard (as you never know when the EA will start declining..), they pay guys to post favorable arguments all over the internet, including here, typical..
yes I can...
Member Since Apr 20, 2010
814 posts
Sep 08, 2014 at 10:29
I still blur about this EA, please rectify me if my statement wrong.
1)This EA base on Signal Indicator and NEWS feed info from Broker to take trade.
2) Use MoneyManagement Lot compounding method.
3) Currently 5 pair EA being trade simultaneously in this Real Account.
4) Close strategy also by indicator Signal and no SL or TP set on this Acc.
5) Open trade base on BAR and got 3 Logic of setting, indicator likely use ATR.
Someone said it similar to Million Dollar Pips EA. Can explain more how they trade logic sort like?
1)This EA base on Signal Indicator and NEWS feed info from Broker to take trade.
2) Use MoneyManagement Lot compounding method.
3) Currently 5 pair EA being trade simultaneously in this Real Account.
4) Close strategy also by indicator Signal and no SL or TP set on this Acc.
5) Open trade base on BAR and got 3 Logic of setting, indicator likely use ATR.
Someone said it similar to Million Dollar Pips EA. Can explain more how they trade logic sort like?
Information is Gold when come to organised.
Member Since Dec 22, 2010
128 posts
Sep 09, 2014 at 19:31
lilizen posted:useless post, if you don't post your reason
hey guys you should be very careful using this ea on real account,...
Member Since Jan 25, 2010
1360 posts
Sep 10, 2014 at 03:22
(edited Sep 10, 2014 at 03:29)
profix posted:
No Steve, I don't think so. I don't waste my time with investigations on marketers promo fairy tales anymore, but trade what makes sense. MDP made me very good money and this one as well. That's what counts for me. Other Morrison products went immediately to the bin.. since he is allways honest regards the money back guarantee I see no issue to try his products
So who has actually bought this yet? I want an authentic buyer's perspective - not one of the paid lackey / fake buyers'.
forex_trader_8565
Member Since Mar 12, 2010
106 posts
Sep 10, 2014 at 04:21
BluePanther posted:profix posted:
No Steve, I don't think so. I don't waste my time with investigations on marketers promo fairy tales anymore, but trade what makes sense. MDP made me very good money and this one as well. That's what counts for me. Other Morrison products went immediately to the bin.. since he is allways honest regards the money back guarantee I see no issue to try his products
So who has actually bought this yet? I want an authentic buyer's perspective - not one of the paid lackey / fake buyers'.
@BluePanther
Hello Matt, You could refer my trading log,although it blow few days ago.
I use Bluemonkey and Keltner pro so far, no more use Million Dollar Pips.
Member Since Jan 25, 2010
1360 posts
Sep 11, 2014 at 05:43
(edited Sep 11, 2014 at 05:45)
Well, for those considering purchasing Keltner Pro, here is my experience thus far:
1. I had issues paying for the product. The usual payment processor ClickBetter kept declining my bank and Jared said he was having issues with them, so he sent me a Paypal link. The Paypal link worked fine, but now I have to await the return of a possible charge from ClickBetter. Why he doesn't use ClickBank (the most trusted payment processor and the most ethical) I have not asked - but it is concerning to say the least.
2. So I got emailed the download link after a day, and after activating my license and installing the EA, I now have issues attaching it to my charts. I get an error message saying:
Deja vu: I have the feeling I have seen that error message for another EA before (or have I purchased this before and forgotten?). I don't know for sure... hoping someone can enlighten me if this error message is similar to any other EA.
1. I had issues paying for the product. The usual payment processor ClickBetter kept declining my bank and Jared said he was having issues with them, so he sent me a Paypal link. The Paypal link worked fine, but now I have to await the return of a possible charge from ClickBetter. Why he doesn't use ClickBank (the most trusted payment processor and the most ethical) I have not asked - but it is concerning to say the least.
2. So I got emailed the download link after a day, and after activating my license and installing the EA, I now have issues attaching it to my charts. I get an error message saying:
'KeltnerPro - License not validated - rev.1 - 1890: Insufficient license for project KeltnerPro. Your chart has been closed automatically. You have to restart your terminal in order to try again. Contact vendor if you think this is a mistake.'
Deja vu: I have the feeling I have seen that error message for another EA before (or have I purchased this before and forgotten?). I don't know for sure... hoping someone can enlighten me if this error message is similar to any other EA.
Member Since Jan 25, 2010
1360 posts
Sep 12, 2014 at 04:48
(edited Sep 12, 2014 at 04:52)
Okay. I (or rather Jared) got it working... I activated my real account expecting to use it ultimately on my real account, but first I wanted to test it on my demo account.
Duh! Activate the account you are gonna use it on, dumbass! (damn I hate being wrong, or stupid - or both) 😭
Jared picked up my mistake and it has attached to the charts fine... 😁
...now for the results. 😎
PS. Jared was very patient, despite my veiled arrogance and obvious impatience with this issue. I'm so ashamed.
Duh! Activate the account you are gonna use it on, dumbass! (damn I hate being wrong, or stupid - or both) 😭
Jared picked up my mistake and it has attached to the charts fine... 😁
...now for the results. 😎
PS. Jared was very patient, despite my veiled arrogance and obvious impatience with this issue. I'm so ashamed.
Member Since Aug 07, 2014
61 posts
Sep 12, 2014 at 10:12
may be many factors I think, also paypal is safe and you reiterated your money in case of a bad product ...... I think this is a particular case ... I think an isolated case
chinchano_1984@
Member Since Jun 28, 2012
56 posts
Sep 12, 2014 at 21:09
Matt thank you for your honest opinion and review. And even your mistake. This helps a lot of us who are on the fence about purchasing.
Yolo
Sep 16, 2014 at 17:01
second trade on EURUSD AUDUSD GBPUSD all failed today would have been good if the EA had a protective profit stop rather than just the dynamic 16 pip SL at least get out with something if it doesn't make the profit taking price
Time is Money
Member Since Jan 25, 2010
1360 posts
Sep 17, 2014 at 05:42
So far, not so good - 100% loss rate! (3/3)
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Member Since Apr 25, 2014
249 posts
Sep 17, 2014 at 06:41
I lost hope with this EA!! as its making losses since last 6 trades in losses!!!
Help others
Member Since Jan 25, 2010
1360 posts
Sep 17, 2014 at 07:20
(edited Sep 17, 2014 at 07:28)
thesupremeforex posted:
I lost hope with this EA!! as its making losses since last 6 trades in losses!!!
Guess the EA doesn't like trending markets?
The biggest string of losses was nine at the end of March, but if you include the four before it (separated by one win) you are looking at thirteen losses in a row - and considering the percentage losses that adds up...
Well, it certainly seemed to win more than it lost in the past, so there is no reason why its performance shouldn't improve. But so far, not so good.
Jared, if you read this: there is room for improvement with your EA. Hope you can release an update to improve profitability!
