Victor (By victorbrigge)
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Victor Discussion
forex_trader_1819
Member Since Oct 18, 2009
230 posts
May 21, 2011 at 19:31
Thank you Mr Lee. Very nice post. We don't see many posts as detailed as this. It clears up the confusion.
May 22, 2011 at 04:11
Thank you gary the explanation, it is good to know the argument from both sides. Unfortunately this discussion lost his sense, frankly I am neutral at this time.
When planning to start to trade the managed account victor?
Do you plan to publish the managed account?
When planning to start to trade the managed account victor?
Do you plan to publish the managed account?
Yeah i know my grammar sucks, I speak spanish. Sorry if something doesnt make sense ;)
May 22, 2011 at 10:28
I always wondering about such threads: Mr. Lee does so much effort to clarify all confusing issues and to explain how honest and sucessful they are.
I have no idea, who speak the truth, but I have always the same question:
If somebody is so sucessful in trading, why he is not able to open an 10000 USD real account, trade his strategy and publish the investor password? So everybody could analyze the trade history and make sure that the trades and the development of the balance is true and not manipulated.
But nearly nobody who has to sell something, want to do it. It' curious, isn't it?
I have no idea, who speak the truth, but I have always the same question:
If somebody is so sucessful in trading, why he is not able to open an 10000 USD real account, trade his strategy and publish the investor password? So everybody could analyze the trade history and make sure that the trades and the development of the balance is true and not manipulated.
But nearly nobody who has to sell something, want to do it. It' curious, isn't it?
There are only a few shortcuts in life ....... but for successful trading you have always to go the extra mile
Member Since Feb 16, 2010
1332 posts
May 22, 2011 at 10:34
Haitrader posted:
I always wondering about such threads: Mr. Lee does so much effort to clarify all confusing issues and to explain how honest and sucessful they are.
I have no idea, who speak the truth, but I have always the same question:
If somebody is so sucessful in trading, why he is not able to open an 10000 USD real account, trade his strategy and publish the investor password? So everybody could analyze the trade history and make sure that the trades and the development of the balance is true and not manipulated.
But nearly nobody who has to sell something, want to do it. It' curious, isn't it?
Exactly
"In trading, winning is frequently a question of luck, but losing is always a matter of skill."
forex_trader_32776
Member Since Mar 28, 2011
1008 posts
May 23, 2011 at 00:28
Not only that, but it is also necessary to open an account under their IB so they can earn commission while they experiment different strategies for a few months until they figure out which one will earn the most for their investors. lol
May 23, 2011 at 05:09
And can you post your address and phone number to add some credibility to your self as well?
I know you 'claim' that you do not benefit out of posting scam warning comments on other people, but the fact remains that there isn't a single positive comment from you on this thread, even when you are proven wrong you just come back and instead of apologizing, you rather throw another totally new scam accusation which does somehow show that you just have an agenda against these guys.
ForexScam posted:
Not only that, but it is also necessary to open an account under their IB so they can earn commission while they experiment different strategies for a few months until they figure out which one will earn the most for their investors. lol
Now you surely are making fun of your self, and proving your lack of intelligence and due diligence ;)
where did they state that they 'experiment' with peoples money? I am sure they are not stupid enough to make such statement
forex_trader_32776
Member Since Mar 28, 2011
1008 posts
May 23, 2011 at 05:15
accuratefund posted:
How do we manage our client’s funds? We manage our client’s personal account as well as their company’s account with a few different trading/investment strategies. We have multiple trading strategies and we apply the best trading strategy to our client’s trading account, one at a time and monitor the progress of that strategy. If the performance drops below our requirements we will switch to another strategy which we think will work best at any current point in time.
Kind Regards,
Gary Lee
Business Coordinator
Accurate Fund Management
Here you go fxsavvy
forex_trader_32776
Member Since Mar 28, 2011
1008 posts
May 23, 2011 at 05:17
And fx savvy - You were the one to post the IB link in the first place.
--Wait let me post that 1 more time..
''The only way the same person to win something if he's losing your money is if he's IB/affiliate for that broker and taking commissions.''
and now this - https://www.tadawulfx.com/v2/register/index.php/ib/800828 -- IB 800828
--Wait let me post that 1 more time..
''The only way the same person to win something if he's losing your money is if he's IB/affiliate for that broker and taking commissions.''
and now this - https://www.tadawulfx.com/v2/register/index.php/ib/800828 -- IB 800828
Member Since Feb 16, 2010
1332 posts
May 23, 2011 at 05:30
ForexScam posted:
'The only way the same person to win something if he's losing your money is if he's IB/affiliate for that broker and taking commissions.'
Very true.
"In trading, winning is frequently a question of luck, but losing is always a matter of skill."
May 23, 2011 at 05:42
ForexScam posted:
accuratefund posted:
How do we manage our client’s funds? We manage our client’s personal account as well as their company’s account with a few different trading/investment strategies. We have multiple trading strategies and we apply the best trading strategy to our client’s trading account, one at a time and monitor the progress of that strategy. If the performance drops below our requirements we will switch to another strategy which we think will work best at any current point in time.
Kind Regards,
Gary Lee
Business Coordinator
Accurate Fund Management
Here you go fxsavvy
You're an idiot!
If they do random experiments then why did they pick Victor unless they require some performance proof or study the trading portfolio
<quote=ForexScam>
And fx savvy - You were the one to post the IB link in the first place.
--Wait let me post that 1 more time..
''The only way the same person to win something if he's losing your money is if he's IB/affiliate for that broker and taking commissions.''
and now this - https://www.tadawulfx.com/v2/register/index.php/ib/800828 -- IB 800828
I have copied and pasted the link which Victor has posted earlier when I asked who wants to pool up
The IB belongs to accuratefund company and not to Victor (I have contacted Tadawulfx and clarified that the IB link belongs to Accuratefund company), so Victor won't be making any money at all unless he makes you money
But there is still a possibility that Victor has made a deal with them to share the IB (although I doubt it), however, if the per-trade commission is what Victor is looking for, I guess he would just post his own IB link
Member Since Feb 16, 2010
1332 posts
May 23, 2011 at 05:53
(edited May 23, 2011 at 06:08)
In this business even the slightest doubt that something isn't the same as it's promoted is a failure.
Beeing a money manager who requires the investors to open accounts under his IB/affiliate is a failure itself.
<b>30-50%</b> performance fee is large enough if you know you will succeed. BUT if you doubt you will succeed but you want profit flowing all the time then you become IB/affiliate. Then you always win no matter if you lose.
That's not an honest approach.
Beeing a money manager who requires the investors to open accounts under his IB/affiliate is a failure itself.
<b>30-50%</b> performance fee is large enough if you know you will succeed. BUT if you doubt you will succeed but you want profit flowing all the time then you become IB/affiliate. Then you always win no matter if you lose.
That's not an honest approach.
"In trading, winning is frequently a question of luck, but losing is always a matter of skill."
forex_trader_32776
Member Since Mar 28, 2011
1008 posts
May 23, 2011 at 05:54
Does it matter who picked who? They work together as a team. Victor is a trader and Gary is the front man to deal with questions, customer support, and advertising as Victor never wanted to get involved with this part of the business.
By using Victors trading history they can bring in new customers under their IB at TAD or AVA. -
They decided that FXstat is more suitable for their advertisement -Here is Victors trading history.
If this company drops the IB requirement, Displays a managed account at one of their brokers that can be fully verified, all of our non sense can end right now. I hope they can do this soon, because our decisions are not getting any where.
By using Victors trading history they can bring in new customers under their IB at TAD or AVA. -
They decided that FXstat is more suitable for their advertisement -Here is Victors trading history.
If this company drops the IB requirement, Displays a managed account at one of their brokers that can be fully verified, all of our non sense can end right now. I hope they can do this soon, because our decisions are not getting any where.
forex_trader_32776
Member Since Mar 28, 2011
1008 posts
May 23, 2011 at 05:55
Great post Solar
Member Since Feb 16, 2010
1332 posts
May 23, 2011 at 06:04
(edited May 23, 2011 at 06:06)
ForexScam posted:
Great post Solar
Yeah, if you're expecting a river of gold why fight for few ounces more?
"In trading, winning is frequently a question of luck, but losing is always a matter of skill."
May 23, 2011 at 06:23
(edited May 23, 2011 at 06:27)
forexma posted:
ForexScam posted:
Great post Solar
Yeah, if you're expecting a river of gold why fight for few ounces more?
That I agree on, but keep in mind that (and based from Victors account we have been watching) that he follows strict money management, I am sure he won't be looking to blow-up your $10K account over $50 in total per-trade commission rebate or so! That just does not make any sense!
I just checked on (forexscam) and he seems to be a fund manager him self who blows-up accounts, read this thread to find out
https://www.myfxbook.com/community/trading-systems/p-m-m-managed-accounts/52701,16
<quote=fxSavvy>
Quote from FXSavvy:
'''And can you post your address and phone number to add some credibility to your self as well?
but the fact remains that there isn't a single positive comment from you on this thread, even when you are proven wrong you just come back and instead of apologizing, you rather throw another totally new scam accusation which does somehow show that you just have an agenda against these guys.'''
</quote>
So it turns out I was right after all !
Member Since Aug 03, 2010
40 posts
May 23, 2011 at 07:34
Really interesting to read discussion :)
From my side was a small step toward managing small deposits. But no more. Several people have written to me that they are ready to provide services to attract and organize small deposit. Till now I have not seen any account. At present at all I don't plan to be engaged in that about what all of you speaking.
Regards.
From my side was a small step toward managing small deposits. But no more. Several people have written to me that they are ready to provide services to attract and organize small deposit. Till now I have not seen any account. At present at all I don't plan to be engaged in that about what all of you speaking.
Regards.
Member Since Aug 03, 2010
40 posts
May 23, 2011 at 07:58
bonus767 posted:
Well i was going to assign my account to you just waiting funds to be returned to me from Hotforex and takes ages. Are u still going to be part of accurate management or not?
I am not part of any company else my own team. Accurate trying to provide us with small accounts, I do not care about IBs or other things....
