Vortex Trader PRO (By vortextraderpro)
| Gain : | +2131.88% |
| Drawdown | 27.67% |
| Pips: | 2247.4 |
| Trades | 474 |
| Won: |
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| Lost: |
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| Type: | Real |
| Leverage: | 1:200 |
| Trading: | Automated |
Vortex Trader PRO Discussion
Member Since Feb 09, 2010
226 posts
Mar 19, 2015 at 10:34
vgasper posted:
Yes that's what Im talking about.... Trades were already opened when I received note...
You could have closed them manually with one being at a small loss. There was an opportunity for that. I didn't close them on purpose because I was convinced it would fall. It didn't so....you know what happened next.
Member Since May 20, 2011
724 posts
Mar 19, 2015 at 10:55
fxtrader10 posted:LOL vino such a great remedy in trading! HA yeah I didnt lose my entire account just back to square one
Clearly some people love to whine on here. Those of you that lost ALL of your account. You were using very high lot sizes for your account size. I've kept the EA off for now because the market is still reacting to FOMC yesterday and shaking people out of the market. It took me out of ALL of my shorts yesterday and its doing the same to those who fell into the BUY trap today.
Guys, the market does this from time to time. When the whole world is short, obviously they have to correct that at some point. I lost half of my account not all through VTP or RTP but I trade manually too and I use signal services. It happens, I'm not here crying....the wine helped last night. lol.
Member Since Oct 25, 2013
20 posts
Mar 19, 2015 at 11:06
I agree, you should be able to leave an EA running all the time. I am not on email all the time so cannot react to late suggestions to turn off live trading. Small wins and huge losses are not a good recipe for EA success.
Am giving up on this EA, so the hunt continues for the next .....
Am giving up on this EA, so the hunt continues for the next .....
Member Since Feb 09, 2010
226 posts
Mar 19, 2015 at 11:19
FXtrader2010 posted:fxtrader10 posted:LOL vino such a great remedy in trading! HA yeah I didnt lose my entire account just back to square one
Clearly some people love to whine on here. Those of you that lost ALL of your account. You were using very high lot sizes for your account size. I've kept the EA off for now because the market is still reacting to FOMC yesterday and shaking people out of the market. It took me out of ALL of my shorts yesterday and its doing the same to those who fell into the BUY trap today.
Guys, the market does this from time to time. When the whole world is short, obviously they have to correct that at some point. I lost half of my account not all through VTP or RTP but I trade manually too and I use signal services. It happens, I'm not here crying....the wine helped last night. lol.
It sure does....although I had to go for Tescos own brand this time lol.
Mar 19, 2015 at 15:28
Economic calendars are readily available, there's one on this site's home page, one at Daily Motion. When you see high impact announcements are imminent shut down the EA. You don't need Doug to tell you that. FOMC and NFP are excellent examples of totally unpredictable events.
If you still want to trade during these events manually open a trailing stop on the instrument that you think will be most affected, you may lose a little, you may gain a lot. If your broker allows it open one long with TS and one short with TS. If they don't allow it open one long with TS and another short with TS on a positively correlated pair, for instance long the EUR/USD and short the AUS/USD.
Sometimes the price will suddenly jerk in both directions, which will result in loss(es), but usually it pretty much flies straight up or down.
I've been considering applying this strategy to the daily openings in London, NY, Tokyo and Sydney. Haven't done it yet.
May you make 100 pips!
If you still want to trade during these events manually open a trailing stop on the instrument that you think will be most affected, you may lose a little, you may gain a lot. If your broker allows it open one long with TS and one short with TS. If they don't allow it open one long with TS and another short with TS on a positively correlated pair, for instance long the EUR/USD and short the AUS/USD.
Sometimes the price will suddenly jerk in both directions, which will result in loss(es), but usually it pretty much flies straight up or down.
I've been considering applying this strategy to the daily openings in London, NY, Tokyo and Sydney. Haven't done it yet.
May you make 100 pips!
Member Since Oct 11, 2014
106 posts
Mar 19, 2015 at 18:08
If didn't get turn off email please email me so i can make sure your on the list
forex_trader_58816
Member Since Jan 05, 2012
51 posts
Mar 20, 2015 at 08:07
revtraderpro posted:
If didn't get turn off email please email me so i can make sure your on the list
Doug,
I know we have spoken via email but I did not mention posting the email here.
Posting the email here is highly recommended.
Your users can subscribe to this topic and get the message via here as well.
This could be a form of redundancy I was speaking of.
LL
Mar 20, 2015 at 10:35
Good moring,
I'm looking https://www.myfxbook.com/members/vortextraderpro/vortex-trader-pro/1148041 and the results are fantastic.
Beyond how the EA works, the drowdown, the withdrawal, the pairs used etc etc I wanna ask you this Doug.
Your initial deposit was 3495 $. By the first trade you still open position of 3 and I repeat 3 lots !!!! THIS IS 'CREAZY'.
On a deposit of 3000 $ a medium position opened should be of 0,3 lot....I can consider a SL, if the market is in trend or not in oder to modify the trade's size.
So in a very positive day, with me having a high risk trading style I should risk 0,6-0,7 lot on an account of 3000 $.
In some part of the discussion I read that your STOP LOSS is about 110 pips.
Sorry but let me say that with this SL is ridiculous open your position ( 3 lots !!!!! ) I don't think that you are able to read the future !!!!
And now the most important question. I consider that your EA is true, your results are true, you have created THE TRADING SYSTEM...in conclusion buying your EA we will be richer !!!
Why you don't increase the trade's size now ?
You started with an equity of 3495 $ and a trade'size of 3 lots !! ---> Here ULTRA SUPER RISK
Now your equity is of 61.049 $ and the trade's size of 3 lots !!! ---> BASICALLY NO RISK
You have the formula for the richness and you don't exploit it ?!? Why ?? please let me understand because I really really don't understand your concept of RISK
Thank you
I'm looking https://www.myfxbook.com/members/vortextraderpro/vortex-trader-pro/1148041 and the results are fantastic.
Beyond how the EA works, the drowdown, the withdrawal, the pairs used etc etc I wanna ask you this Doug.
Your initial deposit was 3495 $. By the first trade you still open position of 3 and I repeat 3 lots !!!! THIS IS 'CREAZY'.
On a deposit of 3000 $ a medium position opened should be of 0,3 lot....I can consider a SL, if the market is in trend or not in oder to modify the trade's size.
So in a very positive day, with me having a high risk trading style I should risk 0,6-0,7 lot on an account of 3000 $.
In some part of the discussion I read that your STOP LOSS is about 110 pips.
Sorry but let me say that with this SL is ridiculous open your position ( 3 lots !!!!! ) I don't think that you are able to read the future !!!!
And now the most important question. I consider that your EA is true, your results are true, you have created THE TRADING SYSTEM...in conclusion buying your EA we will be richer !!!
Why you don't increase the trade's size now ?
You started with an equity of 3495 $ and a trade'size of 3 lots !! ---> Here ULTRA SUPER RISK
Now your equity is of 61.049 $ and the trade's size of 3 lots !!! ---> BASICALLY NO RISK
You have the formula for the richness and you don't exploit it ?!? Why ?? please let me understand because I really really don't understand your concept of RISK
Thank you
Member Since Nov 20, 2014
96 posts
Mar 20, 2015 at 10:50
lucas87 posted:
Good moring,
I'm looking https://www.myfxbook.com/members/vortextraderpro/vortex-trader-pro/1148041 and the results are fantastic.
Beyond how the EA works, the drowdown, the withdrawal, the pairs used etc etc I wanna ask you this Doug.
Your initial deposit was 3495 $. By the first trade you still open position of 3 and I repeat 3 lots !!!! THIS IS 'CREAZY'.
On a deposit of 3000 $ a medium position opened should be of 0,3 lot....I can consider a SL, if the market is in trend or not in oder to modify the trade's size.
So in a very positive day, with me having a high risk trading style I should risk 0,6-0,7 lot on an account of 3000 $.
In some part of the discussion I read that your STOP LOSS is about 110 pips.
Sorry but let me say that with this SL is ridiculous open your position ( 3 lots !!!!! ) I don't think that you are able to read the future !!!!
And now the most important question. I consider that your EA is true, your results are true, you have created THE TRADING SYSTEM...in conclusion buying your EA we will be richer !!!
Why you don't increase the trade's size now ?
You started with an equity of 3495 $ and a trade'size of 3 lots !! ---> Here ULTRA SUPER RISK
Now your equity is of 61.049 $ and the trade's size of 3 lots !!! ---> BASICALLY NO RISK
You have the formula for the richness and you don't exploit it ?!? Why ?? please let me understand because I really really don't understand your concept of RISK
Thank you
Probably blew quite a few of those $3495 accounts before getting it right, just to be on the top of the results list at Myfxbook...
easy to determine that, and to stay on top, reduce risk now and its sorted...
Mar 20, 2015 at 10:54
lucas87 posted:
Good moring,
I'm looking https://www.myfxbook.com/members/vortextraderpro/vortex-trader-pro/1148041 and the results are fantastic.
Beyond how the EA works, the drowdown, the withdrawal, the pairs used etc etc I wanna ask you this Doug.
Your initial deposit was 3495 $. By the first trade you still open position of 3 and I repeat 3 lots !!!! THIS IS 'CREAZY'.
On a deposit of 3000 $ a medium position opened should be of 0,3 lot....I can consider a SL, if the market is in trend or not in oder to modify the trade's size.
So in a very positive day, with me having a high risk trading style I should risk 0,6-0,7 lot on an account of 3000 $.
In some part of the discussion I read that your STOP LOSS is about 110 pips.
Sorry but let me say that with this SL is ridiculous open your position ( 3 lots !!!!! ) I don't think that you are able to read the future !!!!
And now the most important question. I consider that your EA is true, your results are true, you have created THE TRADING SYSTEM...in conclusion buying your EA we will be richer !!!
Why you don't increase the trade's size now ?
You started with an equity of 3495 $ and a trade'size of 3 lots !! ---> Here ULTRA SUPER RISK
Now your equity is of 61.049 $ and the trade's size of 3 lots !!! ---> BASICALLY NO RISK
You have the formula for the richness and you don't exploit it ?!? Why ?? please let me understand because I really really don't understand your concept of RISK
Thank you
Im confused by your 1st statement that calls this EA fantastic and then follows to show how insane the risk was... any backfire would have blown this account away.
This is the same that we see for both EAs from teh vendor, as well, as the kelnter pro... show me an EA with profits of over 1000% without a high risk...
Replay the trades from all these EAs with a RISK that would 'normally' be used by experienced traders and tell me what was the actual profit they got in the long run.
Cheers,
Vlad
vladrac@
Member Since May 20, 2011
724 posts
Mar 20, 2015 at 11:03
walteremslie posted:I dunno, blow 3 , 4 ,5 3500 account for 50k plus? Sounds pretty good to me! In fact im going to try similar thing on 1000 account with thislucas87 posted:
Good moring,
I'm looking https://www.myfxbook.com/members/vortextraderpro/vortex-trader-pro/1148041 and the results are fantastic.
Beyond how the EA works, the drowdown, the withdrawal, the pairs used etc etc I wanna ask you this Doug.
Your initial deposit was 3495 $. By the first trade you still open position of 3 and I repeat 3 lots !!!! THIS IS 'CREAZY'.
On a deposit of 3000 $ a medium position opened should be of 0,3 lot....I can consider a SL, if the market is in trend or not in oder to modify the trade's size.
So in a very positive day, with me having a high risk trading style I should risk 0,6-0,7 lot on an account of 3000 $.
In some part of the discussion I read that your STOP LOSS is about 110 pips.
Sorry but let me say that with this SL is ridiculous open your position ( 3 lots !!!!! ) I don't think that you are able to read the future !!!!
And now the most important question. I consider that your EA is true, your results are true, you have created THE TRADING SYSTEM...in conclusion buying your EA we will be richer !!!
Why you don't increase the trade's size now ?
You started with an equity of 3495 $ and a trade'size of 3 lots !! ---> Here ULTRA SUPER RISK
Now your equity is of 61.049 $ and the trade's size of 3 lots !!! ---> BASICALLY NO RISK
You have the formula for the richness and you don't exploit it ?!? Why ?? please let me understand because I really really don't understand your concept of RISK
Thank you
Probably blew quite a few of those $3495 accounts before getting it right, just to be on the top of the results list at Myfxbook...
easy to determine that, and to stay on top, reduce risk now and its sorted...
Member Since Nov 20, 2014
96 posts
Mar 20, 2015 at 11:51
FXtrader2010 posted:walteremslie posted:I dunno, blow 3 , 4 ,5 3500 account for 50k plus? Sounds pretty good to me! In fact im going to try similar thing on 1000 account with thislucas87 posted:
Good moring,
I'm looking https://www.myfxbook.com/members/vortextraderpro/vortex-trader-pro/1148041 and the results are fantastic.
Beyond how the EA works, the drowdown, the withdrawal, the pairs used etc etc I wanna ask you this Doug.
Your initial deposit was 3495 $. By the first trade you still open position of 3 and I repeat 3 lots !!!! THIS IS 'CREAZY'.
On a deposit of 3000 $ a medium position opened should be of 0,3 lot....I can consider a SL, if the market is in trend or not in oder to modify the trade's size.
So in a very positive day, with me having a high risk trading style I should risk 0,6-0,7 lot on an account of 3000 $.
In some part of the discussion I read that your STOP LOSS is about 110 pips.
Sorry but let me say that with this SL is ridiculous open your position ( 3 lots !!!!! ) I don't think that you are able to read the future !!!!
And now the most important question. I consider that your EA is true, your results are true, you have created THE TRADING SYSTEM...in conclusion buying your EA we will be richer !!!
Why you don't increase the trade's size now ?
You started with an equity of 3495 $ and a trade'size of 3 lots !! ---> Here ULTRA SUPER RISK
Now your equity is of 61.049 $ and the trade's size of 3 lots !!! ---> BASICALLY NO RISK
You have the formula for the richness and you don't exploit it ?!? Why ?? please let me understand because I really really don't understand your concept of RISK
Thank you
Probably blew quite a few of those $3495 accounts before getting it right, just to be on the top of the results list at Myfxbook...
easy to determine that, and to stay on top, reduce risk now and its sorted...
Yeah Casino... whatever... im sure not everyone is here to gamble... Some people respect their hard earned cash. How you choose to spend yours is up to you...
Majority Clients are from countries with poverty, and are trying to earn a living from this, like the website says... not just here to take chances like you.
good luck and hope you make lots of real money lol
Mar 20, 2015 at 12:14
Hello guys!
QUESTIONl: Has anyone tried this Vortex thing on a similar account like Dog has - demo or live on SYNERGY?
Fair enough that an EA might be broker dependent as it might be very dependent on demo and live account, respectively.
The fact that accounts on recommended brokers crash/take positions vendor's account doesn't, is bad.
QUESTIONl: Has anyone tried this Vortex thing on a similar account like Dog has - demo or live on SYNERGY?
Fair enough that an EA might be broker dependent as it might be very dependent on demo and live account, respectively.
The fact that accounts on recommended brokers crash/take positions vendor's account doesn't, is bad.
Member Since May 20, 2011
724 posts
Mar 20, 2015 at 12:14
Is it showing off when the vendor selling you the EA used the money management you call gambling? I dunno what thats says to me but if I had an opportunity to risk 1000, 2, 3, 4, or even 5000 to make 500000+ USD I would take it!
Yeah Casino... whatever... im sure not everyone is here to gamble... Some people respect their hard earned cash. How you choose to spend yours is up to you...
Majority Clients are from countries with poverty, and are trying to earn a living from this, like the website says... not just here to take chances like you.
good luck and hope you make lots of real money lol
Member Since May 20, 2011
724 posts
Mar 20, 2015 at 12:16
SVEEUK1 posted:Just a warning, this EA it will be very difficult to achieve similar settings to vendor. Now it is out in open brokers now about it and the market has it out there it probably will start to loose its win rate. Now I dont use the same broker but I have experienced this and has 4 losses in a row trading with this. 90+% win rate seems very unlikely, or, not sustainable.
Hello guys!
QUESTIONl: Has anyone tried this Vortex thing on a similar account like Dog has - demo or live on SYNERGY?
Fair enough that an EA might be broker dependent as it might be very dependent on demo and live account, respectively.
The fact that accounts on recommended brokers crash/take positions vendor's account doesn't, is bad.
Member Since Nov 20, 2014
96 posts
Mar 20, 2015 at 12:19
FXtrader2010 posted:Is it showing off when the vendor selling you the EA used the money management you call gambling? I dunno what thats says to me but if I had an opportunity to risk 1000, 2, 3, 4, or even 5000 to make 500000+ USD I would take it!
Yeah Casino... whatever... im sure not everyone is here to gamble... Some people respect their hard earned cash. How you choose to spend yours is up to you...
Majority Clients are from countries with poverty, and are trying to earn a living from this, like the website says... not just here to take chances like you.
good luck and hope you make lots of real money lol
Like this post started out... 3 lots on a 3500 account is gambling!!! To risk 4 5 or 6 accounts to get there like you want to, is gambling... A true forex trader looks after the risk, a gambler chases the profits in hope to achieve something...
Most clients want to earn a living off their hard earned cash. Throw yours away if you want to. No one can tell you what to do with your cash.
Mar 20, 2015 at 12:23
vladrac posted:lucas87 posted:
Good moring,
I'm looking https://www.myfxbook.com/members/vortextraderpro/vortex-trader-pro/1148041 and the results are fantastic.
Beyond how the EA works, the drowdown, the withdrawal, the pairs used etc etc I wanna ask you this Doug.
Your initial deposit was 3495 $. By the first trade you still open position of 3 and I repeat 3 lots !!!! THIS IS 'CREAZY'.
On a deposit of 3000 $ a medium position opened should be of 0,3 lot....I can consider a SL, if the market is in trend or not in oder to modify the trade's size.
So in a very positive day, with me having a high risk trading style I should risk 0,6-0,7 lot on an account of 3000 $.
In some part of the discussion I read that your STOP LOSS is about 110 pips.
Sorry but let me say that with this SL is ridiculous open your position ( 3 lots !!!!! ) I don't think that you are able to read the future !!!!
And now the most important question. I consider that your EA is true, your results are true, you have created THE TRADING SYSTEM...in conclusion buying your EA we will be richer !!!
Why you don't increase the trade's size now ?
You started with an equity of 3495 $ and a trade'size of 3 lots !! ---> Here ULTRA SUPER RISK
Now your equity is of 61.049 $ and the trade's size of 3 lots !!! ---> BASICALLY NO RISK
You have the formula for the richness and you don't exploit it ?!? Why ?? please let me understand because I really really don't understand your concept of RISK
Thank you
Im confused by your 1st statement that calls this EA fantastic and then follows to show how insane the risk was... any backfire would have blown this account away.
This is the same that we see for both EAs from teh vendor, as well, as the kelnter pro... show me an EA with profits of over 1000% without a high risk...
Replay the trades from all these EAs with a RISK that would 'normally' be used by experienced traders and tell me what was the actual profit they got in the long run.
Cheers,
Vlad
I explaind what I mean.
Yes, I said that looking at the graph the results are fantastic and, yes looking ONLY at the graph the gain is something of incredible.
Going beyond the graph the point changes.
Honestly I don't have the desire to study this EA, investing time and money.
My argumentation is very easy: if doug has created an EA that really works and has a little drawdown associated to a very high win percentage, because Doug has not increased the trade's size ??
Thus your EA works and you not exploit it properly !?!?!
Come one...😁😁😁😁
Mar 20, 2015 at 12:23
FXtrader2010 posted:walteremslie posted:I dunno, blow 3 , 4 ,5 3500 account for 50k plus? Sounds pretty good to me! In fact im going to try similar thing on 1000 account with thislucas87 posted:
Good moring,
I'm looking https://www.myfxbook.com/members/vortextraderpro/vortex-trader-pro/1148041 and the results are fantastic.
Beyond how the EA works, the drowdown, the withdrawal, the pairs used etc etc I wanna ask you this Doug.
Your initial deposit was 3495 $. By the first trade you still open position of 3 and I repeat 3 lots !!!! THIS IS 'CREAZY'.
On a deposit of 3000 $ a medium position opened should be of 0,3 lot....I can consider a SL, if the market is in trend or not in oder to modify the trade's size.
So in a very positive day, with me having a high risk trading style I should risk 0,6-0,7 lot on an account of 3000 $.
In some part of the discussion I read that your STOP LOSS is about 110 pips.
Sorry but let me say that with this SL is ridiculous open your position ( 3 lots !!!!! ) I don't think that you are able to read the future !!!!
And now the most important question. I consider that your EA is true, your results are true, you have created THE TRADING SYSTEM...in conclusion buying your EA we will be richer !!!
Why you don't increase the trade's size now ?
You started with an equity of 3495 $ and a trade'size of 3 lots !! ---> Here ULTRA SUPER RISK
Now your equity is of 61.049 $ and the trade's size of 3 lots !!! ---> BASICALLY NO RISK
You have the formula for the richness and you don't exploit it ?!? Why ?? please let me understand because I really really don't understand your concept of RISK
Thank you
Probably blew quite a few of those $3495 accounts before getting it right, just to be on the top of the results list at Myfxbook...
easy to determine that, and to stay on top, reduce risk now and its sorted...
Yeah you are basically saying something true but not so true as you think.
Yes it can happen that a broker fails (Alpari UK), can happen that you enter in a unpredicatable trade that bring you to lose some money ecc ecc......you are saying to REDUCE the RISK...and this is correct....but in the meantime you invest 3 lots on an account of 3000 $...even on an account of 10.000 $ it would be to risky !!
...and now you tell me to dunno blow......ok this is correct....but I consider your graph (we can admit that you open 3, 4, 5, 3500 accounts but the points don't change.
YOU HAVE THE SYSTEM THAT WIN, so why do you use fixed lots ??
Consider that I'm not saying this:
3 lots : 3.000 $ = 41 lots : 41.000 $...................for example now you should invest 6 lots....in nay case your EA wins....so if you increase the trade size...you gain more money....and if you want you can open more accounts.
I see a 'good' system that is not used in its potential.
Sorry but you have not given me a satisfactory response
forex_trader_222294
Member Since Dec 18, 2014
19 posts
Mar 20, 2015 at 16:39
I have issued a refund request to support@vortextraderpro.com
Please respond and honor it as it is in the refund time frame. My trades mostly aligned with yours, except you never had losing trades when I did, if anything you would close out at 0-5pips and I would have 2 at -110. I'm unable to continue taking massive hits while you are able to turn your trades into a 'wash' and close at normal entry etc.
There shouldn't be differences between accounts other than entry primarily. Please honor my request.
Please respond and honor it as it is in the refund time frame. My trades mostly aligned with yours, except you never had losing trades when I did, if anything you would close out at 0-5pips and I would have 2 at -110. I'm unable to continue taking massive hits while you are able to turn your trades into a 'wash' and close at normal entry etc.
There shouldn't be differences between accounts other than entry primarily. Please honor my request.
